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The Abomination That is Madden Nation

I may be a little late to this party, but have pity on me. After all, I’m old.

This past week, I sat in my less-than-stellar hotel room in Norwalk, Conn., wearily searching for something to watch on television. A frequent business traveler these days, my few meager hours of free time are spent watching drivel on limited hotel cable packages, rather than being spent throwing long TD passes and running a mean spread option offense from my couch. Truly tragic stuff.

This week, I came across the ESPN program Madden Nation. Now, I have seen this program before, but I had never really looked at it with an analytical eye. For those unfamiliar with the show, the idea is simple: set up a reality-style television show pitting the "best" Madden players against each other in an elimination tournament, all while touring the country and visiting some of the NFL’s most prominent stadiums. Sounds great, in theory. Execution, however, is another animal altogether.

The terms "cheese" and "cheesers" get thrown around a lot in sports gaming, and Madden Nation is nothing if not a celebration of marquee "cheesery." While hardcore OS Madden gamers spend hours making their gameplay not only dominant, but realistic, ESPN has deemed it appropriate to showcase a gaggle of gamers whose offense consists of a perfected (and perpetual) roll-and-chuck. It is, in a single word, abhorrent.

 


Madden Nation....an abomination.

Although I often times feel like Andy Rooney when I speak out against the rampant cheese that has consumed Madden, I feel that it is highly necessary that I continue to do so. To me, utilizing the idiosyncrasies of Madden to gain an unrealistic advantage is sacrilege. It is no different than using the BxR glitch in Halo 2. It’s not strategy, no sir. It’s cheap and underhanded, and to reward such tactics with a national television show that celebrates them is an insult -- far be it from a vehement insult, but an insult nonetheless.

The first episode that I viewed featured a spirited contest between two players, one using the Cincinnati Bengals, the other, my beloved Chicago Bears. The game played out like the old NFL Blitz on speed: Quarterbacks were in shotgun formations flitting around (and eventually out of) the pocket like gnats, firing darts across their bodies to receivers. The Bears even scored a TD with Rex Grossman (that’s correct, the correct depth charts weren’t even used) on a 2-yard QB sneak where he hurdled over the offensive line. My knuckles grew a rancorous shade of white after only 10 minutes of viewing.

Madden Nation celebrates everything that is wrong with competitive Madden play. To reduce the game to a half-assed offensive pyrotechnic show is simply revolting. Not only is it a reminder of the many online contests where I faced such deplorable antics, but it is also the face of EA Sports’ quest to appeal to the lowest common denominator: the feared "casual" gamer market. Casual football fans/gamers want to see a lot of points, and lots of big plays. They don’t share our appreciation for a well-laid gameplan and intelligent playcalling. They would rather see a 70-yard bomb than a perfectly set up play-action pass, capping off a run-driven 70-yard drive. Madden Nation is a perfect fit for the casual gamer, tied up neatly in a banter-filled realty show package. It is poignant for the masses, rubbish for those who know better.

The worst part of Madden Nation is that it is a constant reminder that the game we love is imperfect. As much as we would like it to be a flawless interpretation of the NFL action we consume on chilly fall Sundays, it is tragically, faulty. Sadder still is the fact that gamers like these Madden Nation contestants, these Gluttons of the Glitch, will almost always have the upper hand over we cerebral game-planners. As long as the game will allow it, we will play second fiddle to those gaudy, braggadocios dimwits who love them some deep ball.

Suffice it to say, my eyes will not be glued to the screen when Madden Nation next airs on ESPN, and neither should yours.

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# 61 TheShizNo1 @ 10/23/08 12:17 PM
This show is why I'm starting to believe Madden will never be Madden again. Even w/ the two guys here posting, the fan that matters is the fans on that show. Those are the majorities and where EA will be getting all their money from. The show is a joke as well as next gen EA football, the only sport in the genre that can't get it right on next gen. Pfft
 
# 62 PaulZweber @ 10/23/08 12:59 PM
Thought this was pretty funny!



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Okay, I realize you are less than happy with Madden. And you made a lot of good points, but the "lack of talent" thing turned it toward the insulting. You don't have the right to make it personal, please stick to the issue with the game itself. Thanks....
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# 63 TheShizNo1 @ 10/23/08 01:00 PM
Lame.....
 
# 64 PaulZweber @ 10/23/08 01:47 PM
Yep, I guess I didn't see the OS rule where critisism of EA or anyone affiliated is not allowed. There is no one from EA in this thread, and none of my posts were directed at anyone from that company.
 
# 65 TheTodd84 @ 10/23/08 03:20 PM
Hey, Paul, no worries. I am totally on your side and completely agree with you. This is what happens when socialists take over and want to oppress your freedom of speech. If Paul wants to call EA a bunch of "lack of talent " nobodies, he is perfectly entitled to do that per the first amendment. Granted, they can still warn him, but oppressing that is pure socialism.

I hate to bring politics into this, but if OS wants to play politics, we sure can. I don't know Paul, but i agree with him, and it makes me sick to my stomach that this site would warn him because he criticized their beloved EA. What has happened to honesty and accountability in this country?

You are right Paul, EA does not care, and they have shown a lack of talent in recreating the game of football. How can anyone discredit that with their arcade-style gameplay, suction blocking, horrible animations, or anything else we have griped about? Anyone with a Video Game design degree can make a football game, but in order to understand realism and get the natural ebb and flow of true football, you need to be a top-notch designer who can create realistic animations and collision detection and also have PLAYED football or have a vast understanding of it. EA has clearly showed they have neither.

Why can they get this right for NHL 09 which is arguably the best hockey game ever made, but they can't get it right for Madden or NCAA? And Hockey is one of the most difficult games to recreate into a simulation, but EA managed to do it. That shows talent, but that is the Canadian team. Maybe EA should let them make a football game, cuz the American team? Well they sure as hell aren't getting the job done.
 
# 66 PaulZweber @ 10/23/08 03:41 PM
I completely agree with you Todd. The reason I was warned is because a Madden Dev complained about my post. Apparently I offended him. Not really sure how, seeing that he wasn't in the thread, and it wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I find it funny that they are on the board "moderating" my opinions.
 
# 67 TheTodd84 @ 10/23/08 04:14 PM
It's funny, but most of all sickening that they would moderate your opinions. I just can't believe that this would even be allowed in America. I can understand in Venezuela, with socialist Chavez running the joint. lol.

But we just want a good game, that plays like real football. I just don't understand why that is so much to ask.
 
# 68 PaulZweber @ 10/23/08 04:53 PM
It isn't so much to ask, but it is too much to recieve. Yep, cencored on a public forum by a big company.
 
# 69 SoxFan01605 @ 10/23/08 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulZweber
It isn't so much to ask, but it is too much to recieve. Yep, cencored on a public forum by a big company.
While I agree thatr many moderators are coming across as oversensative here lately, I think it's funny people keep mentioning constitutional rights and freedom, etc. This is not truly a public forum. It's a member driven one and there are TOS we agree to before we join. This means those rights don't apply. It's actually at the sites discretion whether or not we are allowed to participate and just how we do so. You may not like it, but you don't have to post here.

Again, I'm not speaking to the actual fairness of some of these warnings/infractions (human beings are prone to making rash decisions...even if the're moderators). In fact, I've noticed a good amount of inconsistancy from the moderators on this particular forum. Maybe it's because the line between criticism and insults has become so blurred since some can't consuct themselves in a mature manner. I dunno. My comment was just about the falsehood that some people are alluding to that our rights somehow being violated. It's just not the case...from a literal standpoint, that is.
 
# 70 Lintyfresh85 @ 10/23/08 08:56 PM
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I believe Madden Nation to be the high point of everything that is wrong with Madden football America
Fixed.
 
# 71 AdamVinatieri4xsbchamp @ 10/24/08 06:06 AM
First amendment doesnt apply here, like the other guy said.They dont even have to let you post here at all. And I think you can express your opinions without calling out people you dont even know as lazy and incompetent. People, even moderators, Im sure just get sick of seeing it. I mean we KNOW you dont like the game and its not good enough for you. Why keep at it? That is just trolling really.
 
# 72 PaulZweber @ 10/24/08 12:23 PM
Doesn't apply here bud.

The Abomination That is Madden Nation
This thread is about what is wrong with this game. If you are here to argue that, then you are the one "trolling."

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
 
# 73 TheShizNo1 @ 10/24/08 04:11 PM
So it seems the consensus is, Madden Nation sucks and it's destroying the youth of America.
 
# 74 Playmaker24 @ 10/24/08 09:24 PM
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So it seems the consensus is, Madden Nation sucks and it's destroying the youth of America.
Essentially that is what alot of people think, I was fan of the show when was coming on to see how much better these players were.

It was a good idea for one season when they had legitimate players on it but essentially now it has gotten down to the point of anyone who wins a Madden Challenge or plays online with a high rank can get on it.

It does seem to me that it hypes the ability of the thugification of middle america. Most of people that appear on Madden Nation are younger College kids or a variety of players of the Madden community who stake their claim in life to a video game. (Only two older players appeared on the show, Packwolf and 40 G's)

It also funny to see how many of these great Madden players have fallen due to the changes in the game, Big Gene was allegedly the best player in the world and is blip on the radar. Secret who talked his way in season 2, hasn't done anything since.

The show is pure entertainment and is enjoyable to watch just for the "players" reaction and not the game itself. Madden always takes a back-seat on the show and it is in the end all about who can out-talk someone else when winning.
 
# 75 AdamVinatieri4xsbchamp @ 10/25/08 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulZweber
Doesn't apply here bud.

The Abomination That is Madden Nation
This thread is about what is wrong with this game. If you are here to argue that, then you are the one "trolling."

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
I dont have to agree with the thread. If you're getting emotional because some people disagree with you then you have a problem.
 
# 76 splanch @ 10/27/08 05:47 PM
2k
 
# 77 PaulZweber @ 10/27/08 05:58 PM
Peter Moore will help EA make "Big-headed tennis games." Awesome.
 
# 78 TheVinylHippo @ 10/29/08 01:03 AM
The only guy on this show I can tolerate is "Nephew". He's quiet and plays sim, most of the time.
 
# 79 steez3 @ 10/29/08 01:15 AM
how do they decide who gets on the show? is it the top 10 ranked players on xbox live or something??
 
# 80 elTodd @ 10/29/08 01:37 AM
Just saw the finale of the show. "Nephew" won the game. He was up seven and had the ball with under a minute left and his opponent having no timeouts. He then proceeded to kick a field goal as time expired to put him up by ten. What a joke.

Is this what goes on at these Madden Challenges around the country? Shows how little respect these Madden players have for their opponents.
 


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