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NCAA Football 09: To Buy or Not to Buy?

Editors Note: We have updated this article with the latest information from Adam Thompson from EA Sports.  

The collective NCAA community has gone through a huge range of emotions the past 48 hours or so. Those emotions have undoubtedly ranged from envy, anger, concern, confusion, crazyness, and even sheer joy for some.

This wide range of emotions all stems from many gamers across the country scoring early copies of NCAA Football 09. Unfortunately, these select few gamers have taken the NCAA Community along a wild ride which has led to many gamers deciding to discount buying NCAA Football 09 altogether.

After what can be best described as a wild weekend, it's time to separate the facts from the fiction, the rumors from the truth and we will try to answer the ultimate question – is it really worth buying NCAA tonight at midnight?

Rosters ... Or Not?

A huge chunk of the discussion about the problems with NCAA Football 09 has stemmed from several bugs surrounding an apparent glitch in the roster editing feature.

First, NCAA gamers found those editing rosters were having a ton of trouble making edits because the game was crashing or freezing during the process.

Currently, we know several roster editors are trying to work on roster sets to get them released as soon as possible.  Right now, it is anybody's guess on when working named roster files will be released but we should see some soon.

How the whole roster mess effects your decision to buy the game hinges on one thing – can you play the game without real names?


One of the rumors going around currently is there is an 11 character limit on player names. Exceeding that limit might end up crashing the game or causing other problems. Another is to not use punctuation in the names, although the random named rosters in the game seem to have this same kind of punctuation and aren’t causing any problems.

At some point during this weekend, Pasta Padre released a roster set that caused all sorts of problems with the game. Many who used his roster file reported having zero rated teams in play now as well as teams disappear completely off of the screen. There are also several more unconfirmed rumors about the roster file, but the fact of the matter is Pasta Padre has pulled the file from his locker and it is no longer available in his locker. 

We received a note from Adam Thompson at EA in which he said EA asked Pasta to remove the file since it acts almost like a virus in the sense that it messes things up in the game.  Right now, Thompson said he does not believe the character limit has anything to do with the glitch and it definitely has nothing to do with your online status of your console.

Thompson also said you cannot name players with apostrophes in the game, which could be causing some problems when rendering the player's name on the uniform.  Anyone with Pasta Padre's file is recommended to not use it and to not share it as well, as there is a definite problem with the file.

You can edit your own rosters, but as Pasta's file has already shown, you can create some serious side-effects when using roster files.  Thus, until EA figures out how to break the files and then fix that issue with a patch, roster editing should be considered do at your own risk.

How the whole roster mess effects your decision to buy the game hinges on one thing – can you play the game without real names? For a majority of NCAA gamers, this answer is yes. So regardless of what is causing the roster editing issue, if you do not mess with the rosters, you will not have any problems.

For many people, this is reason enough to just skip on to other parts of this article.

It's the Gameplay Stupid ...

Out of the fog of the whole roster mess we enter into the realm of the gameplay for NCAA Football 09. EA has heard gamers complaints on some aspects of the game, and we have gotten a promise there will be an investigation and then possibly a patch in the near future to fix any issues. Here is what was officially said:

Quote:
"Hey guys.

Just wanted to let you know there definitely are folks looking into the following gameplay issues - we will be able to let you know very soon if they are patch-able (and hopefully when):

Muy Importante [very important]
- DL pass rush
- CPU QB percentages
- DB "stand straight up" issue
- Kick / Punt Returns are too easy
- Players in pursuit often turn the wrong way (see LB's on swing passes?)

Will Investigate
- Delay CPU snapping a few seconds
- CPU deep ball
- Rocket catch
- More penalties
- Substitution sliders

As for the crashes and stats disappearing and roster editing stuff and the like ... keep in contact with Adam (OMT) on their status.

I will respond to this thread as soon as I hear anything."


I want to caution this does not mean we will get fixes to all of the issues above, and we aren’t sure when they might be addressed. Most likely if a patch is released there will be subtle tweaks to fix these. What the above post does illustrate is EA believes there are problems and they are looking into fixing them.

As far as the actual user response to the gameplay, it seems as if the reaction is cautiously positive. Despite all of the bugs being reported, a good number of people have reported having fun with the game and enjoying the gameplay. There have been impressions that are to the contrary, but most people have found themselves enjoying the game.

 

While gamers say the game is fun, the general consensus is that this is the year of the offense in NCAA Football.

However, as one gamer on MaddenMania put it, your relationship with NCAA Football 09 will most likely be a "love-hate" relationship. While gamers say the game is fun, the general consensus is that this is the year of the offense in NCAA Football.

The defense has been dumbed down to a point where 40-35 games seem to be the norm. So, while you may have fun scoring at will, you will most likely be pulling your hair out as the computer does the same to your defense. In my opinion, this is a good and bad thing. The game will be fun and frustrating all at the same time. Will the fun be enough to overlook the lack of an offense? We will have to wait and see.

Another thing that I have seen stressed in the community has been the fact speed kills. EA warned us this year that speed was no longer on a simple upslope curve and is instead exponentially higher as you go up the scale. Therefore, a guy with a 99 speed rating will burn a guy with a 98 speed rating.

When you get down to the North Texas and Troy level, you are very likely to get smoked by much more athletic big conference teams. This could make your dynasties instantly much tougher, so count me in as a cautiously optimistic gamer on the speed.

Dynasty Mode Bugs?

I want to leave a quick note to dynasty gamers on their future dynasty. If you are going to play dynasty mode and if you do not want chance running into bugs, you are probably best served not using named rosters downloaded from an EA Locker or the internet.

It seems as if most, if not all of the weird and downright frustrating bugs have to do with rosters.

Your options are either:

A) Use the randomly name the rosters.
B) Play with the default, no-name, QB #14 rosters.

Are either a desirable solution? No. Should we ever had to have made it? No. But it's the reality, and it's not a good one. Otherwise you risk having a catastrophic problem several years into your dynasty.

So Do I Buy?

After everything I just discussed, I think the initial buy/no-buy decision hinges on one very important issue, the rosters. If you can play without the rosters, then advance onto step two. If you can't, it is best to wait until a patch or a proven roster set is released to see if that fixes the issues. Until that time, I would steer clear.

 

So buying it is sitting on one issue: do you want to sacrifice some realism for some fun?


As for the gamers that can live without the rosters, your next decision should hinge on whether you can deal with a lack of a formidable defense in this game. You most likely will not get ultra-low scoring games with this game. That is a simple fact. You also will most likely want to pull your hair out with the plays the computer will make. So buying it is sitting on one issue: do you want to sacrifice some realism for some fun?

If you can answer yes to that question, get in line at midnight and prepare to have fun. If you answered no, take the safe bet and rent the game and see if it's for you.


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Member Comments
# 21 Cdenz @ 07/14/08 08:22 PM
if people could just wait for a patch would send EA a damn message to get this **** str before releasing a game.
 
# 22 btseroyer @ 07/14/08 08:24 PM
Not buy.

This game looks terrible IMO.
 
# 23 Dakingroundhere4 @ 07/14/08 08:55 PM
While the issues with this game are troubling i don't think that not being able to name a player should deter you from at least renting it. It looks like a fun game to play and people should make there own descisions on what THEY think about it. One mans trash is anothers treasure you feel me?

As for the talk about madden.... lets be real guys... Madden is made by different people so lets cut this premature talk of madden bombing and wait for the final version to come out to pass judgement
 
# 24 bigdaddy32 @ 07/14/08 09:02 PM
I am 36 years old, I have been playing video games since the Intellivision. I have sufferred thru the last two releases of NCAA FOOTBAll on XBOX. To put it simply I will just wait for news of a patch, that will fix this bug filled game. I wish we could go back to the 80's when all you had was fun.
 
# 25 gamemaster-2005 @ 07/14/08 09:10 PM
this looks to be my 1st time in like 6 years that I will be skipping on release date. These nasty bugs have me worried in till they fix there broken game I will pass.
 
# 26 texbuk84 @ 07/14/08 09:11 PM
i already have the game. it's amazing whether i had the rosters or not. ONLINE DYNASTY BABY. THATS ENOUGH FOR ME.
 
# 27 umd @ 07/14/08 09:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakingroundhere4
While the issues with this game are troubling i don't think that not being able to name a player should deter you from at least renting it. It looks like a fun game to play and people should make there own descisions on what THEY think about it. One mans trash is anothers treasure you feel me?

As for the talk about madden.... lets be real guys... Madden is made by different people so lets cut this premature talk of madden bombing and wait for the final version to come out to pass judgement
umm. Madden and NCAA were developed at the same time - they share much of the same teams.
 
# 28 Dakingroundhere4 @ 07/14/08 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by umd
umm. Madden and NCAA were developed at the same time - they share much of the same teams.
Thats the first time i've ever heard of them sharing the same dev team. teh fact of the matter is it's 2 different games. MAdden is Madden and Ncaa is NCAA. SImple as that
 
# 29 umd @ 07/14/08 09:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakingroundhere4
Thats the first time i've ever heard of them sharing the same dev team. teh fact of the matter is it's 2 different games. MAdden is Madden and Ncaa is NCAA. SImple as that
Alrighty then. We'll agree to disagree on that one. Simple as that.
 
# 30 chappy14 @ 07/14/08 10:37 PM
great to hear someone else with the intello. I received my dads from him a few years back, we still hook it up for a game of 4 hour football every thanksgiving. No patches necessary.
If the guy went the wrong direction, you did it!
 
# 31 marc68 @ 07/14/08 10:48 PM
My god I hope Madden isnt as screwed up....aww who am I kidding, it will be.
 
# 32 JakeCourtney @ 07/14/08 10:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marc68
My god I hope Madden isnt as screwed up....aww who am I kidding, it will be.
Yep, my hype just went away and I probably won't be buying either titles this year.

 
# 33 xylocaine @ 07/14/08 11:02 PM
See what happens when you are a monopoly. You have to buy the broken Crap EA sells. Are you meaning to tell me during beta testing no one edited the rosters and the first few hours people have found a bug large enough to make the game suck!

This is like the psp bug a couple of years ago.

LOL nice one EA
 
# 34 DJ @ 07/14/08 11:15 PM
Maybe I'll pick up '08 since it's cheap (never played it) and wait until these issues in '09 are addressed.
 
# 35 AuburnAlumni @ 07/14/08 11:21 PM
I've been one of the more critical guys on here.

Bottom line folks...

If you can handle offense-oriented games, buy it. It's fun. It's a blast to play online and online dynasty will be phenomenal.

I'm a defensive minded guy, always have been, which is why I'm harping on the lack of pass rush/Robo QB, but honestly, this is the most fun I've had since 06.

It's a very solid title.
 
# 36 Rules @ 07/14/08 11:39 PM
Well, I have had time to digest everything that I have been reading. I am now officially going to pass on NCAA 09 this year. This will be the first time in the history of EA's NCAA that I have done this. They dumbed down the defense to make the game more fun for the casual gamer. Sliders don't seem to help that issue and I am a defensive player. If Madden ends up the same way, I will officially walk away from all of EA's games if this is what the future holds for us hardcore gamers. Who wants a arcade football game?
 
# 37 xdishnshoot24x @ 07/14/08 11:46 PM
im getting it no matter what....its not the same playing 08 when 09 is out you know, so im going 2 take a chance & buy this offensive oriented game and hopefully fixing the defensive AI, everythng will be fine
 
# 38 thescoop @ 07/15/08 12:07 AM
I'm leaning towards the don't buy side. I can't go back to playing without the named rosters so that is a huge bumber for me.

Also, I don't want to have offensive shootouts all the time. That is disapointing too. It maybe the first time in years I take a year off of NCAA. I was willing to look past a few minor things like my teams uniforms not being right and knowing our stadium expansion won't be there till next year, but the roster thing and lack of defense is helping me choose not to buy.

I'm disappointed that I got my hopes up so high again this year. Hopefully EA patches it real soon and maybe my mind will change. Of course I won't make a final decision till tommorrow when I see the game. The biggest question is can I hold off on a game I've enjoyed buying year after year?

I wish EA would give us an answer as to when they might actually get this game patched. It is sad that games are being released all the time now that are buggy and need to be patched. Not just EA, all companies need to stop depending on xbox live and PSN to fix games that shouldn't have been released.

At least it was caught early and hopefully we'll get a patch within a month. Still too long. Tomorrow, I'll decide what I'll do.....I'm leaning towards not, but I know the empulse will get me.
 
# 39 bkrich83 @ 07/15/08 12:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thescoop
I'm leaning towards the don't buy side. I can't go back to playing without the named rosters so that is a huge bumber for me.

Also, I don't want to have offensive shootouts all the time. That is disapointing too. It maybe the first time in years I take a year off of NCAA. I was willing to look past a few minor things like my teams uniforms not being right and knowing our stadium expansion won't be there till next year, but the roster thing and lack of defense is helping me choose not to buy.

I'm disappointed that I got my hopes up so high again this year. Hopefully EA patches it real soon and maybe my mind will change. Of course I won't make a final decision till tommorrow when I see the game. The biggest question is can I hold off on a game I've enjoyed buying year after year?

I wish EA would give us an answer as to when they might actually get this game patched. It is sad that games are being released all the time now that are buggy and need to be patched. Not just EA, all companies need to stop depending on xbox live and PSN to fix games that shouldn't have been released.

At least it was caught early and hopefully we'll get a patch within a month. Still too long. Tomorrow, I'll decide what I'll do.....I'm leaning towards not, but I know the empulse will get me.
Why would you have to play without named rosters?
 
# 40 tj1182 @ 07/15/08 12:35 AM
Screw it, I'm still buying it. It's not like I haven't played a bug free game from EA the past few years on the PC.
 


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