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NCAA Football 09: To Buy or Not to Buy?

Editors Note: We have updated this article with the latest information from Adam Thompson from EA Sports.  

The collective NCAA community has gone through a huge range of emotions the past 48 hours or so. Those emotions have undoubtedly ranged from envy, anger, concern, confusion, crazyness, and even sheer joy for some.

This wide range of emotions all stems from many gamers across the country scoring early copies of NCAA Football 09. Unfortunately, these select few gamers have taken the NCAA Community along a wild ride which has led to many gamers deciding to discount buying NCAA Football 09 altogether.

After what can be best described as a wild weekend, it's time to separate the facts from the fiction, the rumors from the truth and we will try to answer the ultimate question – is it really worth buying NCAA tonight at midnight?

Rosters ... Or Not?

A huge chunk of the discussion about the problems with NCAA Football 09 has stemmed from several bugs surrounding an apparent glitch in the roster editing feature.

First, NCAA gamers found those editing rosters were having a ton of trouble making edits because the game was crashing or freezing during the process.

Currently, we know several roster editors are trying to work on roster sets to get them released as soon as possible.  Right now, it is anybody's guess on when working named roster files will be released but we should see some soon.

How the whole roster mess effects your decision to buy the game hinges on one thing – can you play the game without real names?


One of the rumors going around currently is there is an 11 character limit on player names. Exceeding that limit might end up crashing the game or causing other problems. Another is to not use punctuation in the names, although the random named rosters in the game seem to have this same kind of punctuation and aren’t causing any problems.

At some point during this weekend, Pasta Padre released a roster set that caused all sorts of problems with the game. Many who used his roster file reported having zero rated teams in play now as well as teams disappear completely off of the screen. There are also several more unconfirmed rumors about the roster file, but the fact of the matter is Pasta Padre has pulled the file from his locker and it is no longer available in his locker. 

We received a note from Adam Thompson at EA in which he said EA asked Pasta to remove the file since it acts almost like a virus in the sense that it messes things up in the game.  Right now, Thompson said he does not believe the character limit has anything to do with the glitch and it definitely has nothing to do with your online status of your console.

Thompson also said you cannot name players with apostrophes in the game, which could be causing some problems when rendering the player's name on the uniform.  Anyone with Pasta Padre's file is recommended to not use it and to not share it as well, as there is a definite problem with the file.

You can edit your own rosters, but as Pasta's file has already shown, you can create some serious side-effects when using roster files.  Thus, until EA figures out how to break the files and then fix that issue with a patch, roster editing should be considered do at your own risk.

How the whole roster mess effects your decision to buy the game hinges on one thing – can you play the game without real names? For a majority of NCAA gamers, this answer is yes. So regardless of what is causing the roster editing issue, if you do not mess with the rosters, you will not have any problems.

For many people, this is reason enough to just skip on to other parts of this article.

It's the Gameplay Stupid ...

Out of the fog of the whole roster mess we enter into the realm of the gameplay for NCAA Football 09. EA has heard gamers complaints on some aspects of the game, and we have gotten a promise there will be an investigation and then possibly a patch in the near future to fix any issues. Here is what was officially said:

Quote:
"Hey guys.

Just wanted to let you know there definitely are folks looking into the following gameplay issues - we will be able to let you know very soon if they are patch-able (and hopefully when):

Muy Importante [very important]
- DL pass rush
- CPU QB percentages
- DB "stand straight up" issue
- Kick / Punt Returns are too easy
- Players in pursuit often turn the wrong way (see LB's on swing passes?)

Will Investigate
- Delay CPU snapping a few seconds
- CPU deep ball
- Rocket catch
- More penalties
- Substitution sliders

As for the crashes and stats disappearing and roster editing stuff and the like ... keep in contact with Adam (OMT) on their status.

I will respond to this thread as soon as I hear anything."


I want to caution this does not mean we will get fixes to all of the issues above, and we aren’t sure when they might be addressed. Most likely if a patch is released there will be subtle tweaks to fix these. What the above post does illustrate is EA believes there are problems and they are looking into fixing them.

As far as the actual user response to the gameplay, it seems as if the reaction is cautiously positive. Despite all of the bugs being reported, a good number of people have reported having fun with the game and enjoying the gameplay. There have been impressions that are to the contrary, but most people have found themselves enjoying the game.

 

While gamers say the game is fun, the general consensus is that this is the year of the offense in NCAA Football.

However, as one gamer on MaddenMania put it, your relationship with NCAA Football 09 will most likely be a "love-hate" relationship. While gamers say the game is fun, the general consensus is that this is the year of the offense in NCAA Football.

The defense has been dumbed down to a point where 40-35 games seem to be the norm. So, while you may have fun scoring at will, you will most likely be pulling your hair out as the computer does the same to your defense. In my opinion, this is a good and bad thing. The game will be fun and frustrating all at the same time. Will the fun be enough to overlook the lack of an offense? We will have to wait and see.

Another thing that I have seen stressed in the community has been the fact speed kills. EA warned us this year that speed was no longer on a simple upslope curve and is instead exponentially higher as you go up the scale. Therefore, a guy with a 99 speed rating will burn a guy with a 98 speed rating.

When you get down to the North Texas and Troy level, you are very likely to get smoked by much more athletic big conference teams. This could make your dynasties instantly much tougher, so count me in as a cautiously optimistic gamer on the speed.

Dynasty Mode Bugs?

I want to leave a quick note to dynasty gamers on their future dynasty. If you are going to play dynasty mode and if you do not want chance running into bugs, you are probably best served not using named rosters downloaded from an EA Locker or the internet.

It seems as if most, if not all of the weird and downright frustrating bugs have to do with rosters.

Your options are either:

A) Use the randomly name the rosters.
B) Play with the default, no-name, QB #14 rosters.

Are either a desirable solution? No. Should we ever had to have made it? No. But it's the reality, and it's not a good one. Otherwise you risk having a catastrophic problem several years into your dynasty.

So Do I Buy?

After everything I just discussed, I think the initial buy/no-buy decision hinges on one very important issue, the rosters. If you can play without the rosters, then advance onto step two. If you can't, it is best to wait until a patch or a proven roster set is released to see if that fixes the issues. Until that time, I would steer clear.

 

So buying it is sitting on one issue: do you want to sacrifice some realism for some fun?


As for the gamers that can live without the rosters, your next decision should hinge on whether you can deal with a lack of a formidable defense in this game. You most likely will not get ultra-low scoring games with this game. That is a simple fact. You also will most likely want to pull your hair out with the plays the computer will make. So buying it is sitting on one issue: do you want to sacrifice some realism for some fun?

If you can answer yes to that question, get in line at midnight and prepare to have fun. If you answered no, take the safe bet and rent the game and see if it's for you.


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Member Comments
# 1 ForeseenBurrito @ 07/14/08 04:48 PM
Can you not edit the default rosters yourself?
 
# 2 Rules @ 07/14/08 04:54 PM
I have been all over the place with whether I should or shouldn't get NCAA 09.

I think I need to keep reading impressions from those who I know have similar abilities and expectations as I do. No matter how difficult it is for me, I need to resist that urge to run out and buy it at this point. I will need to give it a few days and let it all digest some more before dropping $60 on a mild upgrade from last year in regards to gameplay.
 
# 3 opd897 @ 07/14/08 04:57 PM
I passed on last years game after renting it and finding it to be a turnover fest. I had hopes for this year but after all this I may not even rent, let alone buy. I will definately see what is fixed before I do anything.
 
# 4 dodgerblue @ 07/14/08 04:58 PM
I think it is important to remember that EA used "wide open gameplay" as its selling point for this year's game. To expect a patch is going to come that would in some way change that is misguided.
 
# 5 JakeCourtney @ 07/14/08 05:08 PM
Well, if they could fix all the stuff on that list. I'd be the best football game ever, but since they were unable to fix it prior to release it's probably not going to happen. Maybe next year EA you might want to fix the previous games issues before trying to add new features.
 
# 6 vegaas @ 07/14/08 05:31 PM
I have to laugh at this and think back to one of those fact or fiction articles. The overwhelming consesus was that this was supposed to be the year EA football games made a comeback to being strong games. I asked then and will ask now, on what basis? What has EA ever done to make you believe that and now that you see the problems with NCAA how confident are you feeling about Madden? I really wish All-Pro was made again this year with a fictional league and franchise.
 
# 7 BlyGilmore @ 07/14/08 05:34 PM
Forseen - you certainly can. the big question here though is why were Pasta's (and others) rosters messing up? Was it some flaw we can replicate and avoid? Or is it some kind of deeper issue (unstable rosters).

The fact these issues are popping up BEFORE the game is even officially released is troublesome to say the least.

In my mind at this point using named rosters is a gamble. If you have no problem with your dynasty (online or off) potentially dying, go for it. But I think you have to at least consider the chance a dynasty could die down the road because of the rosters that were used at the beginning.
 
# 8 prscorpio2681 @ 07/14/08 05:35 PM
ive seen a friend edit the rosters himself without the internet....no problems.
 
# 9 BoomerSooner11 @ 07/14/08 06:01 PM
What I don't understand is, why would one have to be offline to edit rosters. Im not talking about after downloading padre's or whoevers..im talking about just putting in the names yourself.

It doesn't make sense why it has to be offline it shouldn't matter imo. Maybe there is something im missing and if so please correct me cause im confused about this whole editing roster offline situation.
 
# 10 trey2k198003 @ 07/14/08 06:15 PM
I mean i buy the lil book from barnes and noble i put the names of all the players ( at least until my brain is dead and fingers to the bone) and i play to my hearts delight have done for at lest 3 years now. Never froze up on me last year hell i did it twice last year!( copied over it on accident stupid i know). So am i doing something diff or is it this years game? or am i gonna be fine tommorow?
 
# 11 RaychelSnr @ 07/14/08 06:59 PM
Guys, I want to make everyone aware to the fact we have updated the rosters section with the very latest info from Adam Thompson, who was kind enough to clarify a few things for us.
 
# 12 Bat @ 07/14/08 07:13 PM
Until there is a patch and the results of that I will not buy. It was a for sure day one purchase untill I came on these forums yesterday.

It has me worried about Madden......
 
# 13 spit_bubble @ 07/14/08 07:14 PM
Good article!

Reading through the forums for this information can be dreadful, and I'm pretty sure all the forthcoming reviews from the gaming press will likely omit any mention of the finer points...

Operation Sports could distinguish itself above the rest with more features articles like this.
 
# 14 McLite @ 07/14/08 07:20 PM
For the first time in a long time I'm not buying it tonight or tomorrow. I am going to wait to see what sort of items the patch fixes.
 
# 15 lviking22 @ 07/14/08 07:21 PM
sorry if this has been answered but...if ur editing yourself offline n u edit ratings, equipment, etc. does it still cause teams to disapear n all that....r can u only edit names?? thanks alot
 
# 16 janglar @ 07/14/08 07:41 PM
I'm taking the chance with manually editing the rosters myself offline. I will be using multiple roster save files on the hard drive and 2 USB drives. I am one of those people who have to have the names. I am crossing the fingers, saying a couple hail marys, and getting ready for Christams morning....
 
# 17 Herky @ 07/14/08 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bat9th
Until there is a patch and the results of that I will not buy. It was a for sure day one purchase untill I came on these forums yesterday.

It has me worried about Madden......
I concur on all accounts.
 
# 18 mjacks10 @ 07/14/08 07:58 PM
...and this is why I love OS. Unfortunately, I've gotta have a patch. This will be the first time I've passed on NCAA on release day.
 
# 19 clw22580 @ 07/14/08 08:04 PM
Good honest article. NCAA 09 = rental considering Question 1 and Question 2.
 
# 20 JakeCourtney @ 07/14/08 08:06 PM
Why do I have a feeling that Madden is going to have the same problems as Madden 08?
 

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