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OS Roundtable: Pugilist Edition

With the return of the Operation Sports roundtable, the staff discusses which of the upcoming boxing titles - Prizefighter, Fight Night or Facebreaker - they are most looking forward to.

TJ Cutini (TJdaSportsGuy): I've made no secret in the past that I'm a huge arcade boxing fan. Mike Tyson's Punchout, Ring King, Super Punchout, Ready2Rumble. Those are the boxing games I got the most mileage out of. When EA announced Facebreaker, I was quite excited. At the time it was, by far, my most anticipated boxing title.

That was until 2K sent out a press release last week, highlighting the music that will be included in Prizefighter. As I looked down the list, I saw a song that is synonymous with boxing. A musical masterpiece so fitting that for the first time in my life, I'm going to buy a game based on the music included. The song?

Eye of the Tiger!

Rocky Balboa ... consider yourself created!


Many gamers are resting their hopes that Facebreaker can be the next Mike Tyson's Punchout.

Chris Sanner (ChrisS): I can honestly say I'm looking forward to all three equally - since I think they are all different enough to bring a different experience.

If I had to pick one, I am most looking foward to Facebreaker. I'm sure many of the hardcore purists of boxing (however few are left) probably just rolled their eyes, but if the game is solid enough gameplay wise it could end up being a ton of fun. Otherwise, it's really just going to be a wait and see game for all of them, as I don't think any of them are guaranteed hits at this stage.

Patrick Williams (BigWill33): I am not really looking forward to any with high hopes myself. I loved the old boxing games, Mike Tysons Punchout and my favorite Evander Holyfields Real Deal Boxing.

I think the one I am most looking forward to if there is one would be the one that has Mike Tyson in it. I believe that is Fight Night. I doubt I will buy it, but it would be fun to try Ali vs Tyson finally in a video game for sure.

Dave Branda (BlyGilmore): Speaking of Tyson, you have to love the shady characters being associated with two of these games. Do you have to wonder why boxing is ever falling out of the limelight when you have people like Don King and Mike Tyson as headliners for video games?

No other sport has that kind of dynamic. You're not going to see a Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens Present: Steroid Bash Baseball or Bill Romanowski's Spitting Lunatic Football any time soon. (Although we did have a Bill Laimbeer's Combat Basketball back in the day, so I digress).

So with that said I'm looking forward to Facebreaker. Of all the sports game genres I play, boxing is probably the only one I prefer an ultra-arcadey feel over a more simulation based game. And honestly most folks are in the same boat?

I mean which would you rather sit and watch for two hours? A Wladimir Klitschko fight (Fight Night and Prizefighter)? Or Rocky IV (Facebreaker)?

Matthew DiStaulo (Distrauma): All I have to say is Ready 2 Rumble was awesome and Facebreaker can build off of that essence - utilizing arguably the best boxing engine ever designed as it's foundation. Kind of makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.


Many boxing enthusiasts are resting their hopes on Fight Night Round 4.

Carlos M. Hernandez (YankeePride): I'm looking forward to Fight Night Round 4.

Facebreaker seems like a fun game, but I have almost no interest in playing an arcade-style boxing title. Perhaps I'll give it a rental and try it out for a week but it definitely won't grab me.

I was originally looking forward to Prizefighter but after watching the videos, reading about the features, and seeing some previews, my interest level has taken a huge hit. There's just something about the flow of the game that reminds me of Knockout Kings and that really bothers me.

I'm still not sure Fight Night will keep me excited until it's released. But with the other two on their way to release, I have no choice but to jump to the next title and hope for the best.

Will Soistman (wdogf0rel1fe): If I had to choose any of them I would have to say Facebreaker. I simply could not get into Fight Night Round 3 and Prizefighter still seems kind of iffy to me.

An arcade style boxing game just seems so much fun and a type of game that you can just pick up and play with anybody you know. Also, the graphic style they are using in the game is really great for a boxing game because they can do anything they want bodily harm wise, because of the cell-shaded aspects of it.


Don King Presents: Prizefighter looks to give the boxing genre a fresh feel on things.

Rob Fetter (Fetter21): Listening to Don King try and promote the game in interviews steered me away from the title. It seemed like he was pushing it too much - kind of like an actor who did a bad movie really going out and trying to sell people on why they should see it. I may end up renting it, but any excitement I had for this game is gone.

While Facebreaker very well could end up being a ton of fun, the over the top characters and boxing style just doesn't appeal to me so it's low on my list.

That leaves me most looking forward to Fight Night Round 4. I enjoyed Fight Night Round 3. I still throw it in to play every now and then, so if I'm still getting my money's worth out of Round 3, I can see no reasons why I wouldn't come back for Round 4.

Jeremy Hartman (jhartman01): To be honest, I'm really not looking forward to any of them. However, like TJ, I too am a huge arcade boxing game fan. I lost all interest in real boxing about 15 years ago. I'm still holding on to the times I watched the "real" fights from back in the day.

The arcade-style games intrigue me because Mike Tyson's Punch-out was the most simple yet most fun. So, I would have to cast my vote for Facebreaker if I were to choose.

Ryan Spencer (rspencer86): I am not a hardcore fan of boxing. When considering purchasing a boxing game, I don't look for the game that is most realistic. I want that one that I can pick up and play and just have fun with it.

With that in mind, I am most excited about Facebreaker. I can see myself and my college buddies sitting around punching our virtual selves senseless, laughing at the crazy facial deformations and outrageous taunts. It'll be a nice change of pace from the realistic approach of the other sports games I play.

Caley Roark (CPRoark): I'm with you Hartman. I don't really care about boxing, real or simulated, enough to get excited about any of these games. In fact, if I were to measure the time I've spent playing boxing games, I think WiiSports Boxing might win!

However, I did own Ready2Rumble for the Dreamcast a while back. It was fun, especially when playing with friends. Facebreaker reminds me of that game, so I suppose if I had to chose on, that'd be it.

Richard Chavez (Chavez21): Facebreaker looks like Ready 2 Rumble redux, and while I'm sure it's fun, I'd rather play a more serious boxing game.

Now Prizefighter is based on the Rocky engine which wasn't all that thrilling to begin with. Of course they added to it but who knows how it turned out?

The winner by default, Fight Night Round 4! It seems like they're making the moves that the fans have clamored for. Mike Tyson being in the game will turn a lot of heads and plenty of people will try at least few rounds with Iron Mike.

Wil McCombs: I am by no means a connosieur of boxing games. In fact, my resume includes only Mike Tyson's Punchout, Greatest Heavyweights (Genesis), and that so-called virtual reality boxing game at Dave and Buster's (which I only played once after downing several Red Stripes).

That being said, I think I'd probably get the most enjoyment out of Facebreaker. I know that seems like blasphemy to the realism gospel I normally spew in my weekly articles, but I probably wouldn't give any boxing game any more than an hour's time before returning to my core sports games. I think Facebreaker would give me the most cheap thrills within that short time frame.

Dave Branda (BlyGilmore): Red Stripe! Helping our friends play crummy boxing arcade games since 1988! Hurray beer!

Erik Westfall (Ralnakor): I have to agree with TJ in my enjoyment of Ready2Rumble. And while my articles in recent months have given every indication that Facebreaker is at the forefront of my list, ultimately, I have to go with Fight Night.

The legacy left by its predecessor is gunna be a hard one to match on a number of levels (yet they're obtainable by the fact that there are so many things that did need fixing). All told, this is a title that will be great reintroduction to the realistic boxing simulation and should raise the bar yet again.


Member Comments
# 1 CMH @ 06/10/08 05:07 PM
Yes. But we can still anticipate it's release.
 
# 2 BlyGilmore @ 06/10/08 05:14 PM
Yep it is. Doesn't mean though we can't compare the anticipation for that games release to its competitors.
 
# 3 fistofrage @ 06/11/08 12:16 PM
I really hope this next fight night steps up to the plate with a nice open career mode with rankings and fluid gameplay. Also hope that its not a knockdown festival. Prizefighter really dropped the ball in those regards.
 
# 4 acarrero @ 06/11/08 05:34 PM
So they are most excited about Facebreaker?? Am I in the right site? That's like being more excited about a 2k arcadish football game with generic teams and players than about Madden. Fight Night 4 is hands down the most anticipated boxing game for true sports fans. And I don't think Prizefighter is getting the respect it deserves (not saying it's a great game, but it's not bad from what I've played so far).
 
# 5 BlyGilmore @ 06/15/08 11:36 AM
honestly man, this day and age i don't think the true sports fan gives a hoot about boxing in its current state. most matches are boring, with little action and most of the fight spent with the two boxers hugging each other and whispering sweet nothings into each others ears.

that's why i'm looking forward to facebreaker.

to me the average sports fan would rather have a Rocky-like boxing experience over mimicking the junk we see on HBO nowadays.
 
# 6 acarrero @ 06/16/08 02:28 PM
The sport of boxing is not boring and the fights aren't junk. A good fight is as exciting and dramatic as any other major sporting event. I've seen at least a dozen fights on HBO and Showtime in the last year that were more exciting that, for example, last night's NBA game. But you'll only feel that way if you follow boxing, which few people do these days, that's a shame. I don't expect the average gamer to care about a sim boxing game (if they play a sim sports game it's only for sports covered by Sportscenter), but I do expect a little more from "sports gamers", especially when Tyson is in an EA game.

For many reasons (no good american hevyweights, no organized league, lack of coverage, boring tactical fighters, young kids not wanting to take up the sport for its brutal nature, etc) boxing is simply not that popular, and it takes a true fan to really appreciate it as a sport these days. However, UFC, despite some of these same problems, seems to be growing (despite a much lower skill level than championship boxing). On paper, FN4 will be the greatest boxing game to come out since Punch Out, and the best simulation of the sport ever made. But apparently gamers, even sports gamers, prefer the arcady feel of a Punch Out to a Madden of boxing, and that's because there's a huge gap between the following that boxing has compared to somehting like the NFL.
 
# 7 SHAKYR @ 06/17/08 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BlyGilmore
honestly man, this day and age i don't think the true sports fan gives a hoot about boxing in its current state. most matches are boring, with little action and most of the fight spent with the two boxers hugging each other and whispering sweet nothings into each others ears.

that's why i'm looking forward to facebreaker.

to me the average sports fan would rather have a Rocky-like boxing experience over mimicking the junk we see on HBO nowadays.
Wow!, are you a true boxing fan? In a game you could avoid the garbage like hugging and not throwing punches. It's what you do that makes the fight.
 
# 8 ManiacMatt1782 @ 06/17/08 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by acarrero
The sport of boxing is not boring and the fights aren't junk. A good fight is as exciting and dramatic as any other major sporting event. I've seen at least a dozen fights on HBO and Showtime in the last year that were more exciting that, for example, last night's NBA game. But you'll only feel that way if you follow boxing, which few people do these days, that's a shame. I don't expect the average gamer to care about a sim boxing game (if they play a sim sports game it's only for sports covered by Sportscenter), but I do expect a little more from "sports gamers", especially when Tyson is in an EA game.

For many reasons (no good american hevyweights, no organized league, lack of coverage, boring tactical fighters, young kids not wanting to take up the sport for its brutal nature, etc) boxing is simply not that popular, and it takes a true fan to really appreciate it as a sport these days. However, UFC, despite some of these same problems, seems to be growing (despite a much lower skill level than championship boxing). On paper, FN4 will be the greatest boxing game to come out since Punch Out, and the best simulation of the sport ever made. But apparently gamers, even sports gamers, prefer the arcady feel of a Punch Out to a Madden of boxing, and that's because there's a huge gap between the following that boxing has compared to somehting like the NFL.
I was with you until that remark. How could you say UFC the most talented league of MMA has less skill than championship boxing. I won't go as far as to say it has more, but it has to be at least dead even. You have to train and be proficient at multiple styles in order to compete in MMA let alone be upper echlon. You must also know how ot defend against multiple styles, and dictate the fight to be the style you want. you have to guard punches, kicks, knees, elbows, takedowns, submissions. the fact that you have to take all of that into consideration puts it #1 in combat sports as far as skill required is concerned. I love boxing, but boxing is just 1 part of MMA.
 
# 9 JayBee74 @ 06/17/08 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by acarrero
So they are most excited about Facebreaker?? Am I in the right site? That's like being more excited about a 2k arcadish football game with generic teams and players than about Madden. Fight Night 4 is hands down the most anticipated boxing game for true sports fans. And I don't think Prizefighter is getting the respect it deserves (not saying it's a great game, but it's not bad from what I've played so far).
How precious-it's a Maddenite displaying his unconditional love.
 
# 10 Vast @ 06/17/08 07:55 PM
Im sorry but i can give 2 craps about facebreaker. I want Boxers Road 2 for the psp translated to english with minor tweaks and Next Gen Graphics.

Boxing is the sweet science, and its pugilistic chess. You guys aren't boxing fans then. If im looking forward to NBA Jam over the new Live or 2k9. then im just not into basketball that much. Leave the boxing discussions to the actuall fans.
 
# 11 Vast @ 06/17/08 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ManiacMatt1782
I was with you until that remark. How could you say UFC the most talented league of MMA has less skill than championship boxing. I won't go as far as to say it has more, but it has to be at least dead even. You have to train and be proficient at multiple styles in order to compete in MMA let alone be upper echlon. You must also know how ot defend against multiple styles, and dictate the fight to be the style you want. you have to guard punches, kicks, knees, elbows, takedowns, submissions. the fact that you have to take all of that into consideration puts it #1 in combat sports as far as skill required is concerned. I love boxing, but boxing is just 1 part of MMA.
Note to self: don't say anything bad about UFC around ManiacMatt.
 
# 12 SHAKYR @ 06/17/08 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Vast
Im sorry but i can give 2 craps about facebreaker. I want Boxers Road 2 for the psp translated to english with minor tweaks and Next Gen Graphics.

Boxing is the sweet science, and its pugilistic chess. You guys aren't boxing fans then. If im looking forward to NBA Jam over the new Live or 2k9. then im just not into basketball that much. Leave the boxing discussions to the actuall fans.
You get a dap for this and a high five.I hate that these arcade fans,casual,cartoon network fans are trying to deny us true boxing fans a sim. Facebreaker is for you guys. Let us have a sim.
 
# 13 allBthere @ 06/17/08 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JayBee74
How precious-it's a Maddenite displaying his unconditional love.
I got to agree with you there, that was the most lame thing I've read while being a member of OS.
 
# 14 aholbert32 @ 06/17/08 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BlyGilmore
honestly man, this day and age i don't think the true sports fan gives a hoot about boxing in its current state. most matches are boring, with little action and most of the fight spent with the two boxers hugging each other and whispering sweet nothings into each others ears.

that's why i'm looking forward to facebreaker.

to me the average sports fan would rather have a Rocky-like boxing experience over mimicking the junk we see on HBO nowadays.

Not to be rude but you obviously arent a boxing fan. Someone who has paid attention to Boxing in the last few years wouldnt say something as silly as describing "two guys hugging each other." With guys like Miguel Cotto, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Vasquez, the Marquez brothers and many more putting on great fights, anyone whose watched Boxing would know its not a hug fest.

Also that pandering to the average sports fan mentatlity is the reason why many consider most EA games like Madden and NBA Live as subpar.
 
# 15 JayBee74 @ 06/17/08 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by aholbert32
Not to be rude but you obviously arent a boxing fan. Someone who has paid attention to Boxing in the last few years wouldnt say something as silly as describing "two guys hugging each other." With guys like Miguel Cotto, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Vasquez, the Marquez brothers and many more putting on great fights, anyone whose watched Boxing would know its not a hug fest.

Also that pandering to the average sports fan mentatlity is the reason why many consider most EA games like Madden and NBA Live as subpar.
Completely agree-and on Showtime this Saturday:
ABRAHAM VS MIRANDA!!!!
 
# 16 ManiacMatt1782 @ 06/18/08 03:00 PM
the only division in boxing thats' a hug fest is the heavyweight division, because most of the big guys gas too quick. But boxing is no longer about the heavyweights. hell middle weight and below is where the action is at. mot of those guys throw, and throw often, I am talking 70+ punches around from each fighter, and very rarely a clinch. Boxing in the lower weight classes are still exciting fights. for some reason though people wont watch unless its a heavyweight which happens to be the most boring divsion. The smaller divisions need to be marketed better, and made more accessible to every day joe shmoe that doesnt have HBO or Showtime or buy PPV's if boxing wants to save it self. Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez on free tv would have done wonders for the sport.you would have brought back the casual fan had they been able to see a fight like that.
 

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