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ESPN NFL 2K5 vs Madden NFL 08 Part One

How Does ESPN NFL 2K5 Compare To The “Other” Football Video Game?

On OperationSports and MaddenMania there was a “March Madness” type bracket made up of 64 sports video games which were voted by members as the best sports video games of all time. This tournament yielded ESPN NFL2K5 the winner with a majority of votes. The past years, it has been common knowledge that this game was a great accomplishment in football gaming when released, and some say it has yet to be surpassed by the newer versions of certain football games.

Well, I am here to put that claim of superiority to the test. With Madden 09 coming in the next couple months and looking very promising, why not put ESPN NFL 2K5 up against last years version of Madden and see how they stack up?

In the next couple of weeks I will be comparing the following aspects of each game in-depth: Features, Gameplay/Control, Graphics, and Presentation/Sound.

Features

ESPN NFL 2K5 and Madden 08 are be pretty close in this category seeing as how they are both supposed to be accurate representations of the sport of football. However, there are a few differences when it comes to features and gameplay modes.

ESPN NFL 2K5

  • V.I.P – 2K sports had introduced this with all of its sports games and it was a very useful feature. What V.I.P. did was tracked everything that the user did and would help replicate that user if the profile was set to the A.I. In fact, one could even DOWNLOAD other players profiles and play against them. How freakin’ sweet!
  • Franchise – The franchise mode was very well done and making use of the aforementioned V.I.P. profile helped broaden the experience. There was a weekly preparation feature which was innovative at its time and it was a blast to play through plenty of seasons. Also, not to mention there weren’t any “game killing” bugs to prevent franchises from being un-playable at all.
  • First Person Football – Very innovative idea that took some getting used to. It was not used by many, but it was still very neat to play once in a while.
  • ESPN 25th Anniversary – A mode where you could play 25 historical games from over the years and try to meet goals that could change or replicate history. I personally loved this mode, because I am a huge fan of classic moments such as The Catch.
  • Practice Mode – Self-explanatory.
  • Situation – You can put yourself in any situation that you wanted to play which was pretty neat as well.
  • The Crib – This kind of went along with the V.I.P. profile as it kept track of your records. The crib was a “trophy room” that the other 2K games also had in their games in some way or form.

Madden 08

  • Franchise – Same franchise one would come to expect from a Madden game except the fact that it had a huge bug that made it unplayable until a patch came out to fix it. The free agent bug was a pretty big bug which turned a lot of people off from the start and was very disappointing to everyone. Owner mode did make a return to the new generation of systems though, even if it was pretty much the same as its previous versions.
  • Weapons – New to the series was a system which tried to help separate key players from the regular crowd. This system gave people different attributes at certain times and did help make players stand out. While it did have its fair share of problems, it worked fairly well for its first year in the game.
  • Superstar Mode – Still relatively the same as the previous year, but still a really neat feature. Being able to create a star from scratch and control only his destiny through position specific camera angles and goals that needed to be reached.
  • Practice – Self – explanatory.
  • Trophies and Rings – These were various ways that Madden kept track of user stats and records. As you would play longer and accomplish feats, your “ring” would grow with diamonds and advance levels. The trophies replicated accomplishments as well and you could even wager them online against people.

The Edge: ESPN NFL 2K5. Very unique set of features and a working franchise sets it apart from Madden.

Next week I will check back in with a comparison on the way each game controls, and how the game plays!


Member Comments
# 1 mwjr @ 06/05/08 12:10 PM
In my opinion, the edge to 2K5 is huge. In fact, I'd call it a chasm. The fact that the Madden 08 Franchise mode was nothing more than a free agent period and a draft, yet boasted something called "Finances" puts it light years behind 2K5. In addition, for me the fact that you've always been able to trade future draft picks with any edition of the 2K series makes it a slam dunk winner.
 
# 2 WDOgF0reL1fe @ 06/05/08 12:13 PM
^ Great point about the future draft picks. I agree entirely especially considering Madden still wont have that for 09 IIRC
 
# 3 yamabushi @ 06/05/08 12:27 PM
Come on Will, its not nice to pick on the slow kid.

and, "Next week I will check back in with a comparison on the way each game controls, and how the game plays!"
This will not end well....
 
# 4 callmetaternuts @ 06/05/08 01:02 PM
I wont even comment on this, just want to sit back and watch the Madden vs 2k fight.

imo, i like both games
 
# 5 PaperLantern @ 06/05/08 01:25 PM
2k5 is by far the most complete sports experience I have ever played. It has everything you'd ever want from a sports game, and then some. The graphics were phenomenal for the time (and still are), and the animations are still amazing, especially compared to Madden. The menus were easily the best in a football game, and the use of the ESPN license was perfect. The Crib was completely cooler than I thought it would be, and the Franchise mode was second to none. Truly the greatest football, and maybe sports video game of all time.

I really can't wait until the NFL allows both companies to make NFL games. That will improve Madden for the better, and more importantly, let 2k work their magic.
 
# 6 mwjr @ 06/05/08 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WDOgF0reL1fe
^ Great point about the future draft picks. I agree entirely especially considering Madden still wont have that for 09 IIRC
Seriously?? That's just unacceptable.
 
# 7 CM Hooe @ 06/05/08 01:48 PM
I'm standing at a distance on this one, but I will say that Madden 08's ring feature is one of the most worthless additions to a Madden game in a long time.

It should be noted also that, regardless how it compares to Madden's franchise mode, NFL2K5's franchise mode was not perfect and had a few bugs in it as well; namely, rampant trades by the computer (particularly in the preseason), and the computer only drafting specific positions in first round of draft (QB, RB, OT, and DE, if I recall).

Also, while not a bug, the touted Weekly Prep addition, while neat in concept, was given little explanation in the game literature with regard to how to use it, and was very tedious in execution.
 
# 8 bigfnjoe96 @ 06/05/08 01:58 PM
Let's not forget FULL Online League Support:

ADVANTAGE 2K5
 
# 9 PAPERNUT @ 06/05/08 02:07 PM
The Presentation alone in 2K5 is enough to trump any Madden next gen game so far.
 
# 10 wwharton @ 06/05/08 02:23 PM
Some constructive criticism...

Most madden/2k debates have a gray area created by the people that haven't really played the other game. Here you didn't really talk about Madden's features in a couple of areas besides to say it's about the same as the last version. This doesn't really say anything to anyone that hasn't played that version.

Also, as mentioned, the 2k5 franchise mode was far from perfect and I'm definitely a huge 2k5 fan. It was the biggest complaint by those that loved and hated the game. I also think Madden's mini camps deserves a bit more credit. 2k5's practice mode is a great place to learn the game but I really think it could've helped EVERYONE if it was more structured like the way EA does with Madden.

I'm defending the evil empire a bit, but I agree with your assessment.
 
# 11 Radja @ 06/05/08 03:30 PM
at the time, madden 05 for the old gen had the better franchise. however, the fact that madden 08 for the next gen hasnt improved on the madden old gen, means you have to give a huge nod to 2k5. ea has had several years and more powerful hardware to work with.

as far as the 2k5 franchise bugs, the draft had features that were awesome. the combine was fun and the weekly wrapup were awesome. the 1st round glitch made for house rules to be used but it was workable. the trade glitch was fixed if you moved the injury slider up to 26 or so.

the presentation killed 08. the ability to play any replay in the game was beyond its time.

however, after seeing some videos, this is the first year (09) in a looooooong time, i believe madden may have presentation worth seeing.
 
# 12 King Gro23 @ 06/05/08 03:41 PM
I dont think he quite went in to the weekly preparation enough I used that alot during chise' and wow it was great. I got a kick out of it
 
# 13 landoniandeux @ 06/05/08 09:53 PM
2k was the absolute best football game to ever be made. gameplay was the best i ever played and madden has never had or will ever have. 2k >>>>than all maddens
 
# 14 Lintyfresh85 @ 06/05/08 11:12 PM
Wow... so for years we couldn't comment on the competition between the two franchises because it'd start a flame war... yet now, after the site was bought up and turned to ****... you openly write articles comparing the two, and basically begging for a flame war?


Ha. amazing.
 
# 15 tril @ 06/06/08 12:13 AM
I never knew thats what VIP did. WOW!!!!
2k5 still gives me fits, I have been fired numerous of times, and I havent won a superbowl except on the first 2 levels.


Madden is still enjoyable. so I look forward to seeing the outcome.

Id have to pick 2k5 though.
 
# 16 mutler @ 06/06/08 01:06 AM
Yeah I just picked up Madden 08 for the psp. Its ok but it feels to arcadie. once you set the sliders in 2k5, each game feels intense, because I have to play smart and fight for the every yard. I think 2k5 forces you to play sim.
 
# 17 StayPlation82 @ 06/06/08 01:23 AM
give me a break people. madden is best, it sells more (outsold 2k5). if that game was so great, why didn't anyone buy the thing and the were giving them away at like 29.99. sad. presentation is like 10% of a game anyway and other than that the game had bad player models, cheap humor and bad physics. for some of you the game is great but to the other millions of fans that buy madden we say the game was just ok. R.I.P. 2k5...and people thought Elvis was great too. please! get out of here!
 
# 18 Kramer5150 @ 06/06/08 04:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StayPlation82
give me a break people. madden is best, it sells more (outsold 2k5). if that game was so great, why didn't anyone buy the thing and the were giving them away at like 29.99. sad. presentation is like 10% of a game anyway and other than that the game had bad player models, cheap humor and bad physics. for some of you the game is great but to the other millions of fans that buy madden we say the game was just ok. R.I.P. 2k5...and people thought Elvis was great too. please! get out of here!
Ah yes....just gotta love it when these "new guys" spread their thoughts and deep impressions.
What I have in bold,is exactly what you should consider doing.

This thread has remained civil,it's garbage posts like these that start the flame war crap.
 
# 19 adandar @ 06/06/08 08:07 AM
It's funny that 2k5 which was developed in 2004 for an old gen system is still rivaling, if not superior, to any next gen title whether it is Madden or not. For years Madden has still been trying to implement what 2k pioneered and still hasn't found success.

One of the mindless posts spoke to sales and that's a humorous point. It is those great sales that went unchecked for years because of inferior NFL licensed products that has allowed the Madden franchise to grow so fat and happy with merely cosmetic upgrades for years now. It's basic economics that competition will fuel innovation or extinction. Unfortunately, EA wet its pants when upstart 2k sports and ESPN NFL 2k5 finally got on their radar and was seriously challenging the crown. They simply pulled the power move and took the NFL license even though they would claim the NFL initiated that thinking. I find that notion laughable because it is to the NFL's advantage to make money.

I'm sure EA presented a compensation package that was simply more than what the other producers could match collectively. Also the NFL manages animations like personal fouls, horse collaring, etc. and I'm sure only having to manage one producer makes their vision of manufacturing a purer, less-violent and criminal image much easier.

To conclude, 2k5 is still better and while bold and ingenious folks out there continue to update roster files and provide other innovations to continue the exciting legacy of this great game there is no reason to give Madden a second thought or any of your hard earned money.
 
# 20 JagerMichael @ 06/06/08 09:17 AM
Wouldn't it make more sense to compare APF 2K8 to Madden 08 next gen and NFL 2K5 to Madden 08 legacy gen?
 

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