NBA 2K17 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (4-18)

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Submitted on: 04/18/2017 by Steve Noah

Mike Stauffer (@2KStauff) has sent us the NBA 2K17 roster update details. Check them out here.

Every player in the league had their attributes updated in this morning’s update. The players below are the players that saw their OVR change in this update.

Atlanta Hawks:

Paul Millsap: 84 OVR (-1)

Tim Hardaway Jr.: 79 OVR (+1)

Taurean Prince: 74 OVR (+3)

Thabo Sefolosha: 74 OVR (-1)

Kent Bazemore: 74 OVR (-2)

Malcolm Delaney: 72 OVR (-1)

Jose Calderon: 72 OVR (-1)

Mike Dunleavy: 71 OVR (-1)

DeAndre Bembry: 69 OVR (+1)

Ryan Kelly: 68 OVR (-1)

Brooklyn Nets:

Brook Lopez: 83 OVR (-1)

Trevor Booker: 76 OVR (-1)

Rondae Hollis-Jefferson: 75 OVR (+1)

Sean Kilpatrick: 75 OVR (+1)

Archie Goodwin: 73 OVR (+1)

Isaiah Whitehead: 72 OVR (-1)

Quincy Acy: 71 OVR (-1)

K.J. McDaniels: 69 OVR (+1)

Randy Foye: 69 OVR (-1)

Andrew Nicholson: 68 OVR (-1)

Boston Celtics:

Isaiah Thomas: 90 OVR (-1)

Avery Bradley: 81 OVR (-3)

Amir Johnson: 77 OVR (+3)

Marcus Smart: 76 OVR (+2)

Gerald Green: 72 OVR (-1)

Jonas Jerebko: 71 OVR (-1)

Charlotte Hornets:

Kemba Walker: 86 OVR (+1)

Jeremy Lamb: 76 OVR (+2)

Frank Kaminsky: 76 OVR (-1)

Marco Belinelli: 75 OVR (+1)

Miles Plumlee: 70 OVR (+1)

Briante Weber: 69 OVR (-1)

Christian Wood: 68 OVR (-1)

Chicago Bulls:

Jimmy Butler: 90 OVR (+1)

Dwyane Wade: 82 OVR (-2)

Nikola Mirotic: 77 OVR (+3)

Rajon Rondo: 76 OVR (+2)

Bobby Portis: 76 OVR (+2)

Jerian Grant: 74 OVR (+1)

Paul Zipser: 71 OVR (+1)

Cameron Payne: 71 OVR (-1)

Michael Carter-Williams: 70 OVR (-1)

Cleveland Cavaliers:

Deron Williams: 77 OVR (+1)

Channing Frye: 75 OVR (+1)

Richard Jefferson: 74 OVR (+1)

Iman Shumpert: 72 OVR (-2)

Derrick Williams: 72 OVR (-2)

Kay Felder: 69 OVR (-1)

Dallas Mavericks:

Harrison Barnes: 80 OVR (-1)

J.J. Barea: 77 OVR (+1)

Yogi Ferrell: 75 OVR (+1)

Devin Harris: 73 OVR (+1)

Nicolas Brussino: 68 OVR (+1)

A.J. Hammons: 67 OVR (-1)

Denver Nuggets:

Nikola Jokic: 88 OVR (+1)

Kenneth Faried: 78 OVR (-1)

Will Barton: 78 OVR (-1)

Jamal Murray: 76 OVR (+2)

Jameer Nelson: 73 OVR (-1)

Juan Hernangomez: 73 OVR (-1)

Emmanuel Mudiay: 72 OVR (-1)

Roy Hibbert: 72 OVR (-1)

Detroit Pistons:

Tobias Harris: 78 OVR (-1)

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope: 77 OVR (-1)

Marcus Morris: 77 OVR (-2)

Ish Smith: 76 OVR (+2)

Jon Leuer: 75 OVR (-1)

Boban Marjanovic: 74 OVR (+2)

Beno Udrih: 74 OVR (+1)

Aron Baynes: 73 OVR (+1)

Golden State Warriors:

Stephen Curry: 95 OVR (+2)

Klay Thompson: 88 OVR (-1)

Draymond Green: 86 OVR (+1)

Zaza Pachulia: 76 OVR (-1)

Houston Rockets:

Louis Williams: 80 OVR (-2)

Clint Capela: 79 OVR (-1)

Eric Gordon: 78 OVR (-1)

Bobby Brown: 70 OVR (+2)

Indiana Pacers:

Paul George: 91 OVR (+2)

Myles Turner: 82 OVR (+1)

Lance Stephenson: 75 OVR (+1)

Monta Ellis: 74 OVR (-1)

Kevin Seraphin: 73 OVR (+1)

Georges Niang: 67 OVR (-1)

Los Angeles Clippers:

Chris Paul: 91 OVR (+1)

J.J. Redick: 78 OVR (-1)

Luc Mbah a Moute: 75 OVR (+1)

Marreese Speights: 75 OVR (+1)

Paul Pierce: 71 OVR (-1)

Wesley Johnson: 70 OVR (-1)

Alan Anderson: 66 OVR (-1)

Los Angeles Lakers:

Julius Randle: 78 OVR (+1)

Brandon Ingram: 75 OVR (+1)

Timofey Mozgov: 74 OVR (+1)

Nick Young: 74 OVR (-1)

Tyler Ennis: 72 OVR (+4)

David Nwaba: 71 OVR (+3)

Corey Brewer: 71 OVR (+1)

Memphis Grizzlies:

Marc Gasol: 89 OVR (+1)

Zach Randolph: 80 OVR (-1)

JaMychal Green: 75 OVR (-1)

Brandan Wright: 74 OVR (-2)

James Ennis: 72 OVR (-1)

Troy Daniels: 72 OVR (-1)

Wayne Selden Jr.: 68 OVR (+2)

Miami Heat:

James Johnson: 79 OVR (+1)

Okaro White: 69 OVR (-1)

Milwaukee Bucks:

Giannis Antetokounmpo: 90 OVR (+1)

Khris Middleton: 81 OVR (-1)

Greg Monroe: 80 OVR (+1)

Malcolm Brogdon: 78 OVR (+2)

Thon Maker: 74 OVR (+1)

John Henson: 74 OVR (-1)

Mirza Teletovic: 71 OVR (-2)

Gary Payton II: 69 OVR (+1)

Minnesota Timberwolves:

Andrew Wiggins: 84 OVR (-1)

Tyus Jones: 73 OVR (-1)

Nemanja Bjelica: 72 OVR (-1)

New Orleans Pelicans:

DeMarcus Cousins: 91 OVR (-1)

Cheick Diallo: 69 OVR (+2)

New York Knicks:

Kristaps Porzingis: 84 OVR (+1)

Carmelo Anthony: 84 OVR (-1)

Willy Hernangomez: 77 OVR (+2)

Joakim Noah: 75 OVR (-1)

Justin Holiday: 74 OVR (+1)

Courtney Lee: 74 OVR (-1)

Ron Baker: 68 OVR (+3)

Marshall Plumlee: 68 OVR (+3)

Sasha Vujacic: 68 OVR (+1)

Chasson Randle: 67 OVR (+2)

Maurice Ndour: 67 OVR (-2)

Oklahoma City Thunder:

Russell Westbrook: 96 OVR (+1)

Steven Adams: 80 OVR (-1)

Taj Gibson: 77 OVR (-1)

Victor Oladipo: 77 OVR (-2)

Andre Roberson: 73 OVR (+2)

Alex Abrines: 72 OVR (-1)

Doug McDermott: 72 OVR (-1)

Norris Cole: 70 OVR (-4)

Semaj Christon: 69 OVR (+4)

Orlando Magic:

Aaron Gordon: 78 OVR (+1)

Terrence Ross: 75 OVR (-1)

Jodie Meeks: 74 OVR (-1)

Mario Hezonja: 72 OVR (+1)

Jeff Green: 72 OVR (-1)

D.J. Augustin: 72 OVR (-1)

C.J. Watson: 71 OVR (+1)

Philadelphia 76ers:

Dario Saric: 78 OVR (-2)

Robert Covington: 78 OVR (+1)

Richaun Holmes: 76 OVR (+1)

Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot: 74 OVR (+2)

Gerald Henderson: 73 OVR (-1)

Sergio Rodriguez: 72 OVR (-1)

Shawn Long: 69 OVR (+2)

Phoenix Suns:

Devin Booker: 83 OVR (+2)

T.J. Warren: 77 OVR (-1)

Tyler Ulis: 76 OVR (+2)

Marquese Chriss: 76 OVR (+1)

Leandro Barbosa: 73 OVR (-1)

Derrick Jones Jr.: 70 OVR (+5)

Ronnie Price: 68 OVR (-1)

Portland Trailblazers:

C.J. McCollum: 85 OVR (+1)

Jusuf Nurkic: 78 OVR (-1)

Allen Crabbe: 74 OVR (+1)

Evan Turner: 74 OVR (-1)

Noah Vonleh: 73 OVR (+1)

Shabazz Napier: 72 OVR (+2)

Meyers Leonard: 70 OVR (+1)

Pat Connaughton: 69 OVR (-1)

San Antonio Spurs:

Kawhi Leonard: 96 OVR (+1)

Pau Gasol: 82 OVR (-1)

Dewayne Dedmon: 76 OVR (+2)

David Lee: 76 OVR (-1)

Kyle Anderson: 73 OVR (+1)

Bryn Forbes: 70 OVR (+5)

Joel Anthony: 64 OVR (-1)

Sacramento Kings:

Ty Lawson: 77 OVR (+3)

Buddy Hield: 77 OVR (+1)

Willie Cauley-Stein: 77 OVR (+1)

Tyreke Evans: 77 OVR (-1)

Arron Afflalo: 73 OVR (+1)

Ben McLemore: 73 OVR (+1)

Anthony Tolliver: 73 OVR (+1)

Garrett Temple: 73 OVR (-1)

Georgios Papagiannis: 72 OVR (+2)

Toronto Raptors:

Kyle Lowry: 88 OVR (-1)

DeMarre Carroll: 74 OVR (-1)

Lucas Nogueira: 73 OVR (+1)

P.J. Tucker: 73 OVR (-1)

Delon Wright: 72 OVR (+2)

Jakob Poeltl: 70 OVR (-1)

Fred VanVleet: 68 OVR (+1)

Utah Jazz:

Rudy Gobert: 88 OVR (+2)

Joe Johnson: 76 OVR (+1)

Shelvin Mack: 73 OVR (+1)

Alec Burks: 73 OVR (-1)

Jeff Withey: 73 OVR (-1)

Raul Neto: 72 OVR (-1)

Trey Lyles: 71 OVR (-1)

Joel Bolomboy: 70 OVR (+2)

Washinton Wizards:

Bradley Beal: 87 OVR (+1)

Bojan Bogdanovic: 77 OVR (-2)

Kelly Oubre Jr.: 73 OVR (+2)

Also, here are some top 10's that are kind of fun to look at to see where we are at the start of the playoffs.

Top 10 OVR Players

1. LeBron James: 97 OVR

2. James Harden: 96 OVR

2. Kawhi Leonard: 96 OVR

2. Russell Westbrook: 96 OVR

5. Stephen Curry: 95 OVR

5. Kevin Durant: 95 OVR

7. Anthony Davis: 94 OVR

8. Chris Paul: 91 OVR

8. Paul George: 91 OVR

10. DeMarcus Cousins: 91 OVR

Top 10 PG's

1. Russell Westbrook: 96 OVR

2. Stephen Curry: 95 OVR

3. Chris Paul: 91 OVR

4. John Wall: 90 OVR

4. Kyrie Irving: 90 OVR

4. Isaiah Thomas: 90 OVR

4. Damian Lillard: 90 OVR

7. Kyle Lowry: 88 OVR

8. Mike Conley: 87 OVR

9. Kemba Walker: 86 OVR

Top 10 SG's

1. James Harden: 96 OVR

2. Jimmy Butler: 90 OVR

3. DeMar DeRozan: 89 OVR

4. Klay Thompson: 88 OVR

5. Bradley Beal: 87 OVR

6. C.J. McCollum: 85 OVR

7. Devin Booker: 83 OVR

8. Dwyane Wade: 82 OVR

9. Avery Bradley: 81 OVR

10. Khris Middleton: 81 OVR

Top 10 SF's

1. LeBron James: 97 OVR

2. Kawhi Leonard: 96 OVR

3. Kevin Durant: 95 OVR

4. Paul George: 91 OVR

5. Giannis Antetokounmpo: 90 OVR

6. Gordon Hayward: 88 OVR

7. Carmelo Anthony: 84 OVR

7. Andrew Wiggins: 84 OVR

9. Harrison Barnes: 80 OVR

9. Jae Crowder: 80 OVR

Top 10 PF's

1. Anthony Davis: 94 OVR

2. Blake Griffin: 88 OVR

3. LaMarcus Aldridge: 87 OVR

3. Kevin Love: 87 OVR

5. Draymond Green: 86 OVR

6. Paul Millsap: 84 OVR

6. Kristaps Porzingis: 84 OVR

8. Jabari Parker: 83 OVR

9. Zach Randolph: 80 OVR

9. Dirk Nowitzki: 80 OVR

Top 10 C's

1. DeMarcus Cousins: 91 OVR

2. Marc Gasol: 89 OVR

2. Karl-Anthony Towns: 89 OVR

4. Rudy Gobert: 88 OVR

4. Nikola Jokic: 88 OVR

6. Hassan Whiteside: 87 OVR

7. DeAndre Jordan: 86 OVR

7. Joel Embiid: 86 OVR

9. Andre Drummond: 85 OVR

10. Al Horford: 83 OVR

10. Brook Lopez: 83 OVR

Member Comments

# 1 grodbetatted @ 04/18/17 12:54 PM

I can't say Carmelo isn't better than Gordon Hayward

# 2 SkillzFromThe6 @ 04/18/17 01:18 PM

The Pelicans (DeMarcus Cousins & Cheick Diallo) are in the New York Knicks section.

# 3 BQ32 @ 04/18/17 02:20 PM

So the Pels supposedly have two top 10 players in the entire world but have one of the worst records in the league even after the trade. Hmmm.

# 4 E The Rhymer @ 04/18/17 02:26 PM

I'm trying to figured out who thinks that Kyrie Irving is on the same level as Dame Dolla.

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# 5 tripleh1142 @ 04/18/17 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by E The Rhymer


	I'm trying to figured out who thinks that Kyrie Irving is on the same level as Dame Dolla. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Aren't they both explosive offensive point guards that don't play much D? I can't see much difference between them. I could be wrong.

# 6 MackZillaTV @ 04/18/17 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BQ32


	So the Pels supposedly have two top 10 players in the entire world but have one of the worst records in the league even after the trade. Hmmm.

Bad coaching + mediocre supporting cast + plus late adjustments = LOTTERY

# 7 MoneyOvaHuds @ 04/18/17 05:50 PM

Lol at PG being rated higher than Butler and did Lance Stephenson contract get fixed ?

# 8 MoneyOvaHuds @ 04/18/17 06:20 PM

Nope still wrong

# 9 ksuttonjr76 @ 04/18/17 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds


	Nope still wrong

What's wrong with it? That's right. This season wasn't prorated.

# 10 Gosens6 @ 04/18/17 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by grodbetatted


	I can't say Carmelo isn't better than Gordon Hayward

The casuals would lose their minds if Hayward was rated higher than Melo.

But I agree 100% with you. These days I'd take Gordon over Melo any day of the week

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# 11 MoneyOvaHuds @ 04/18/17 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	What's wrong with it? That's right. This season wasn't prorated.

Huh? Go check Lance Contract on 2k It's not correct at all he has a one year vet min deal where he actually just signed a 3 year deal. He's getting paid 4 million this season and guaranteed 4 next year . After next season the Pacers have a team option deal to exercise . The game doesn't show that and after the season while using NBA today or any other regular season mode Lance becomes a FA and that isn't accurate.

# 12 ksuttonjr76 @ 04/19/17 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds


	Huh? Go check Lance Contract on 2k It's not correct at all he has a one year vet min deal where he actually just signed a 3 year deal. He's getting paid 4 million this season and guaranteed 4 next year . After next season the Pacers have a team option deal to exercise . The game doesn't show that and after the season while using NBA today or any other regular season mode Lance becomes a FA and that isn't accurate.

Nevermind and my bad. I don't know why I thought the screenshot of the contract was from the game itself.

# 13 MoneyOvaHuds @ 04/20/17 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	Nevermind and my bad. I don't know why I thought the screenshot of the contract was from the game itself.

Oh no problem I've been tweeting 2kstauff about for about 2 weeks now and still no change I hope he's checking but I wouldn't be surprised if no change

# 14 haloofduty @ 04/20/17 10:06 AM

Is there anyway to make this roster show updated stats for the 16/17 season? On the edting screen it just shows player stats for the 15/16 season. My roster from 3 months ago updated so I don't understand why the updated roster not updated.

# 15 Real2KInsider @ 04/20/17 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BQ32


	So the Pels supposedly have two top 10 players in the entire world but have one of the worst records in the league even after the trade. Hmmm.

They went 1-5 after shutting DMC shut down for the year. They were 10-6 in March.

# 16 Real2KInsider @ 04/20/17 12:02 PM

LOL remember when 2K was priding itself on how few 90 OVR players they had? (Six, one of whom was Duncan on "rep")

Fast forward a year and that number is 16! Power creep is still an issue, as they can't/won't find a balance between running the numbers and placating the fans.

# 17 Real2KInsider @ 04/20/17 01:36 PM

Top 10 Point Guards
96 (+3) Russell Westbrook (OKC): 30.6 PER, 55 TS%, 57 AST%, 42 USG%
95 (+1) Stephen Curry (GSW): 24.7 PER, 62 TS%, 31 AST%, 30 USG%
91 (NC) Chris Paul (LAC): 26.2 PER, 61 TS%, 47 AST%, 24 USG%
90 (+5) Isaiah Thomas (BOS): 26.5 PER, 63 TS%, 33 AST%, 34 USG%
90 (+1) Damian Lillard (POR): 24.1 PER, 59 TS%, 29 AST%, 32 USG%
90 (+2) John Wall (WAS): 23.2 PER, 54 TS%, 47 AST%, 31 USG%
90 (+1) Kyrie Irving (CLE): 23.0 PER, 57 TS%, 30 AST%, 31 USG%
88 (+2) Kyle Lowry (TOR): 22.9 PER, 62 TS%, 30 AST%, 25 USG%
87 (+2) Mike Conley (MEM): 23.2 PER, 60 TS%, 35 AST%, 26 USG%
86 (+1) Kemba Walker (CHA): 21.3 PER, 57 TS%, 29 AST%, 29 USG%

Point guard rankings are tough to mess up. Very few PGs are impact-positive defensive players, which means their primary value is offensive production. This means a simple figure like PER is often an accurate depiction of player worth. Defensive/low-usage PGs like Patrick Beverley or Derek Fisher are the very narrow exception to this (unlike the SG position there are a very small handful of players who qualify for this "exemption").

Using DRPM to measure defensive impact/ability...

Defensive Rating Plus Minus (30 mpg)
2.89 Chris Paul
1.63 Patrick Beverley
1.19 Jrue Holiday
0.94 Kyle Lowry
0.82 George Hill
0.74 Ricky Rubio
0.39 Stephen Curry
0.38 Marcus Smart
-0.39 Jeff Teague
-0.47 Mike Conley
-0.59 Eric Bledsoe
-0.73 Russell Westbrook
-0.97 John Wall
-1.26 Kemba Walker
-1.27 Damian Lillard
-1.48 Darren Collison
-1.62 Goran Dragic
-2.23 Kyrie Irving
-2.54 Dennis Scrhoder
-4.17 Isaiah Thomas

The median DRPM for a PG was -0.88 this year (out of 92 players, per ESPN). There's a very short list of PGs who managed to be a net-positive on defense (though it's consistently the same guys each year).

Chris Paul is underrated. The offensive numbers Isaiah Thomas put up this year? Chris Paul has been doing that his entire career. Paul has lead his position in DRPM two straight years now (2.44 last year), whereas Thomas was DEAD LAST in the LEAGUE (468th) It may not be Thomas fault that he is 5'9", but it's not like Paul is much taller either. He's the John Stockton of this generation.

Steph Curry is overrated. Point blank. His season was nowhere near comparable to 2016 where he lead the league in PER, True Shooting%, FT%, 3PM, FGM, Total Steals, and Win Shares.

2016 Curry: 31.5 PER, 67 TS% (50-45-91)
2017 Curry: 24.7 PER, 62 TS% (46-41-90)

He was not a better player this season than Kevin Durant (27.6 PER, 65 TS%) and this should be reflected, rather than coddled. It's what made LAST season so special - it was one of the all-time great performances.

Speaking of all-time great performances - comparing the Curry of this season to what Russell Westbrook did is a bonafide joke. If you're going to use an "all-time" scale then Westbrook's historic season and Curry's historic season should be rated as such - rather than Curry getting inflated out of the blowback from a prior feat.

# 18 Real2KInsider @ 04/20/17 02:58 PM

Top 10 Shooting Guards
96 (+6) James Harden (HOU): 27.3 PER, 61 TS%, 51 AST%, 34 USG%
90 (+2) Jimmy Butler (CHI): 25.1 PER, 59 TS%, 25 AST%, 27 USG%
89 (+2) DeMar DeRozan (TOR): 24.0 PER, 55 TS%, 21 AST%, 34 USG%
88 (-2) Klay Thompson (GSW): 17.4 PER, 59 TS%, 9 AST%, 26 USG%
87 (+8) Bradley Beal (WAS): 20.1 PER, 60 TS%, 16 AST%, 27 USG%
85 (+2) C.J. McCollum (POR): 19.9 PER, 59 TS%, 18 AST%, 28 USG%
83 (+5) Devin Booker (PHX): 14.6 PER, 53 TS%, 16 AST%, 29 USG%
82 (-5) Dwyane Wade (CHI): 18.5 PER, 51 TS%, 22 AST%, 30 USG%
81 (NC) Khris Middleton (MIL): 15.0 PER, 57 TS%, 18 AST%, 23 USG%
81 (-1) Avery Bradley (BOS): 14.4 PER, 55 TS%, 11 AST%, 22 USG%

DRPM (30 mpg)
1.56 Victor Oladipo
0.81 Khris Middleton
0.15 Wesley Matthews
0.05 Josh Richardson
-0.12 Dion Waiters
-0.22 Eric Gordon
-0.36 Nicolas Batum
-0.62 Dwyane Wade (29.9 mpg)
-0.77 Klay Thompson
-0.88 Bradley Beal
-1.15 Avery Bradley
-1.19 Evan Fournier
-1.31 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
-1.51 Courtney Lee
-1.79 James Harden
-1.91 C.J. McCollum
-2.26 DeMar DeRozan
-2.39 Gary Harris
-2.53 Devin Booker

Couple notes on this data (Median -0.77 out of 99 players).

Danny Green and Tony Allen both have higher DRPM than Oladipo but don't average 30 MPG (both in the 27 MPG range). There are more low-usage "defensive specialists" at SG than at the PG position but they are more prone to being in a 50/50 or 55/45 playing time split.

While defense is important, it's still offense that guarantees large chunks of playing-time. None of the top SG rate highly on defense (which further illustrates just how big Chris Paul's contribution is - with props to Kyle Lowry and Stephen Curry as well).

I understand the logic for James Harden to share the same OVR as Russell Westbrook, given that they are both contenders for the 2017 MVP award (and Harden is favored there, given historical precedent). He's still a negative on defense (though not close to Isaiah Thomas), but better than a few of his peers. When you measure his contributions on both ends Harden is overrated. I'd probably take Harden/Paul and meet somewhere in the middle like 93/94. It's not like his offensive numbers are that much better than Jimmy Butler (90) or DeMar DeRozan (89).

I have long maintained that Klay Thompson is overrated and shouldn't have sniffed anywhere close to 90 OVR last year - dropping him down to 88 doesn't change that. At the end of the day Klay is the 4th best player on a 67 win team (and not close to the other 3). There are a handful of people who hype up his defense but the reality is he's no Khris Middleton, and never has been.

Lastly, Devin Booker sucks, that is all. Anyone who would take him over Lou Williams, Eric Gordon, Nicolas Batum, or J.J. Redick is clowning themselves, I don't care how many points he scored in garbage time (fun fact: he shot 27% in the five games leading up to his Brandon Jennings-esque "explosion").

# 19 Real2KInsider @ 04/20/17 04:09 PM

Top 10 Small Forwards
97 (+1) LeBron James (CLE): 27.0 PER, 62 TS%, 41 AST%, 30 USG%
96 (+3) Kawhi Leonard (SAS): 27.5 PER, 61 TS%, 19 AST%, 31 USG%
95 (+2) Kevin Durant (GSW): 27.6 PER, 65 TS%, 23 AST%, 28 USG%
91 (+1) Paul George (IND): 20.2 PER, 59 TS%, 16 AST%, 29 USG%
90 (+7) Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL): 26.1 PER, 60 TS%, 27 AST%, 28 USG%
88 (+4) Gordon Hayward (UTA): 22.2 PER, 60 TS%, 18 AST%, 28 USG%
84 (-4) Carmelo Anthony (NYK): 17.9 PER, 54 TS%, 14 AST%, 29 USG%
84 (+2) Andrew Wiggins (MIN): 16.5 PER, 53 TS%, 11 AST%, 29 USG%
80 (+1) Harrison Barnes (DAL): 16.3 PER, 54 TS%, 8 AST%, 25 USG%
80 (-1) Jae Crowder (BOS): 14.9 PER, 61 TS%, 10 AST%, 17 USG%

Continued
80 (NC) Rudy Gay (SAC): 17.9 PER, 56 TS%, 14 AST%, 26 USG%
80 (+4) Otto Porter (WAS): 17.3 PER, 64 TS%, 7 AST%, 15 USG%

DRPM (30 mpg) / Median = 0.14 (81 players)
4.33 Robert Covington
2.51 Andre Roberson
2.10 Jimmy Butler - Forgot that 2K has him erroneously listed at SG
1.95 Rudy Gay
1.72 Giannis Antetokounmpo
1.58 Kevin Durant
1.48 Jae Crowder
1.35 LeBron James
1.30 Trevor Ariza
0.76 Kawhi Leonard - Ironically he'll probably get DPOY
0.26 Danilo Gallinari
0.21 Paul George
0.15 Justise Winslow
0.14 Harrison Barnes
0.03 Otto Porter
0.01 Gordon Hayward
-1.54 Wilson Chandler
-1.75 Carmelo Anthony
-2.45 T.J. Warren
-3.17 Andrew Wiggins

Paul George is easily the most overrated player we have covered so far. He hasn't taken a step forward since the 2014 season, and his 2015 injury likely capped his ceiling. The Pacers struggled to make the playoffs despite talent and health, and a lot of that falls on George not being the superstar that some (including 2K Sports) erroneously perceive him to be. He should be in the Gordon Hayward-tier (86-88 OVR).

Giannis Antetokounmpo is underrated. His numbers and defense are right there with the holy trinity of LeBron/Kawhi/Durant. The biggest gap between them is the caliber of their teammates.

Jimmy Butler should be listed at SF by 2K, which would add about 2 points to his OVR (if my memory serves correctly). That should at least address one of the comments made by someone earlier in the thread. He's up there among the top two-way players in the game.

Rudy Gay was an odd omission here (likely due to his injury) and I don't know anyone that can make a convincing argument that Harrison Barnes (the poor-man's Rudy Gay) is on par with him. Rudy Gay is underrated and should clearly be top 10.

Carmelo Anthony and Andrew Wiggins are overrated. Poor defense cancels out their inefficient offense. While Melo has made a career out of tricking people into thinking otherwise, Wiggins isn't far behind him. They both have been at the bottom of the SF DRPM list for the last three years (and it's reflected in their team's win totals).

# 20 XxKnicksRules215xX @ 04/20/17 04:46 PM

Rashidi, are you doing a roster maybe an end of season roster??

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