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MLB The Show 17: Is It a Buy?

Mike Lowe: I just installed the game having returned from vacation, so my impressions are based almost entirely off of simulating some franchise seasons to see how the engine was holding up. I also played the demo game a few times while the game downloaded, but probably for 10 innings total or so.

Pros

  • Franchise carryover seems to work very well. The only thing I see missing would be something like "Player of the Month" if you import during a season -- completely understandable as the option didn't exist last year. Aside from having to rename some guys like Darin Ruf, the carryover seemed to work quite well.
  • The intro video is really well done this year.

Cons

  • Simulated CG/SO stats are still inflated compared to MLB stats when using default sliders.
  • Option years are still not accurate, although some players will have some option years used up now.
  • Trades seem really strange. I saw the (auto trades on, default trade slider) Tigers trade for CF Cameron Maybin, then for CF Andrew McCutchen, and then trade McCutchen to Toronto about a week later. A last place Braves team traded Teheran for Verlander.
  • There seems to be some elastic bounce of the ball around the wall around homeplate. Seems odd, but maybe just needs a patch.
  • Online franchise, a mode that has shown brightly for a game like Madden with CFM, continues to be neglected based on "data" that people aren't playing it -- chicken or egg.

Josh Houtz: MLB The Show might be the best sports game on the market, and the guys over at SCEA continue to improve a game that, in my opinion, is nearly flawless. However, despite how great The Show may be, it has been several years since the last time I purchased the iconic baseball simulation.

The developers over at Sony continue to make necessary improvements to Road to the Show, Franchise Mode, Diamond Dynasty, among other popular game modes. After playing my first several games, new animations, enhanced AI and improved ball physics are very apparent. However, with all these great improvements, one thing that remains a huge disappointment is online play.

I consider myself an online gamer, but I ignored the franchise for several years due to the unstable network that plagued it before recent times. Online play has gotten off to a rough start this season after being relatively solid last year -- it does seem to be a bit better today -- but I'll be interested to see how all that shakes out in the coming weeks. If you're an online gamer who has very little interest in franchise mode or Road to the Show, I recommend you wait until the servers are corrected before buying the game. The Show is the same great game it has been for several years, but until the online modes are completely fixed, it's worth nothing more than a rental for me.

Elliott Jenkins: To me, the biggest and most important difference in this year’s iteration is the hit variety. I immediately saw a huge variety in hits that matched my timing and directional hitting. The coveted opposite-field bloops and down-the-line line drives that Sony San Diego highlighted in their Twitch streams have been a part of almost every game I have played, which is a very welcome change.

Hiccups while pitching seem to have vanished. The entire animation sequence of pitching -- the catcher catching, the umpire calling the strike, and the catcher throwing the ball back to the pitcher -- look incredibly smooth. Slight tweaks to camera angles and animations have been nice as well. I launched what I wrote off as a foul ball due to Bregman’s slow stroll and the announcers’ new audio, but it wound up a home run about 20 feet to the right of the foul pole.

Server issues aside, Diamond Dynasty is excellent. The amount of missions are almost overwhelming and reward you for gameplay in every mode. The exchange missions are nice ways to utilize your duplicates that have little Stub value, and the postgame rewards have felt very generous. After my third game, I received a Gold Justin Turner, which I can only hope is an indication of stronger postgame rewards and not a server blip.

Last year’s version saw server issues as well to the point that players were rewarded packs for the downtime. However, Sony San Diego has a proven track record of not only making amends with fans but also providing them with additional content that lasts well after the conclusion of the real season. The servers were sharp last night and should be normal in the coming weeks (I hope).

All-in-all, this year’s version is a dream for baseball fans. The smooth mechanics and hitting variety make the game feel very complete and provides a lot of variety -- and that’s without the bounty of modes to choose from.


Member Comments
# 41 countryboy @ 04/01/17 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaysonguy
The game is currently very broken, why are so many people recommending it?

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Because we don't view it as "very broken" and are enjoying the game?

I know it's a crazy concept that people have different opinions as to what makes a game enjoyable to them.

This game is a must buy in my opinion. New ball physics alone will keep this game feeling fresh for months to come.

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# 42 tril @ 04/01/17 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Trackball
In the NBA, the best center in the league recently got traded for basically dinner at Pizza Hut.

We no longer have any right to call any trade whatsoever "unrealistic" or "not sim."
true.. for me it's more about the amount of trades not the actual traded players.
 
# 43 consecutive27 @ 04/01/17 11:15 AM
I still might end up buying it eventually, but I was hoping for more attention to scouting, drafting, progression, regression, and fixing pitcher stamina/rotations in the playoffs. If they had improved those things, I would be all over this game. The gameplay improvements do sound good though.
 
# 44 asjdwf21 @ 04/01/17 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaysonguy
The game is currently very broken, why are so many people recommending it?

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I agree to an extent with you. The servers are not a big deal to me but other things are. Yes, the game looks amazing....but why did they change the way the ball off the bat sounds? Why do small infielders hit mammoth ruthian shots every game? Something clearly isn't right.


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# 45 Jaysonguy @ 04/01/17 12:28 PM
The people who are saying this is a must buy right now are doing people who don't have the game a huge disservice.

The problems with the game are on social media and other sites besides this one, they are not isolated incidents.

These aren't little glitches, the servers being a problem days after launch, the game resetting people's experience sometimes multiple times a day, the game freezing mid game, games played but not counting, getting booted out of games and being credited with a loss, load screens that are 30+ minutes, having to wait minutes for menu screens to change.

The argument of "well it's not happening to me" does not work because not only do other users in here say they're having the problems but SDS says yes, they know these things are happening.

Everyone who has the game right now and is dealing with problems have paid a premium. They have the game during launch week when it's going to be it's most expensive. They are rewarded with a game that is currently broken.

Saying right now the game is a buy is irresponsible. If you want to say once things are fixed it's worth a buy that's one thing. To suggest that it would be in someone's best interests to get the game right now with all this going on is misleading, it makes the community look bad. They should be watching each other's backs and preventing others from getting in the same situation.
 
# 46 countryboy @ 04/01/17 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaysonguy
The people who are saying this is a must buy right now are doing people who don't have the game a huge disservice.

The problems with the game are on social media and other sites besides this one, they are not isolated incidents.

These aren't little glitches, the servers being a problem days after launch, the game resetting people's experience sometimes multiple times a day, the game freezing mid game, games played but not counting, getting booted out of games and being credited with a loss, load screens that are 30+ minutes, having to wait minutes for menu screens to change.

The argument of "well it's not happening to me" does not work because not only do other users in here say they're having the problems but SDS says yes, they know these things are happening.

Everyone who has the game right now and is dealing with problems have paid a premium. They have the game during launch week when it's going to be it's most expensive. They are rewarded with a game that is currently broken.

Saying right now the game is a buy is irresponsible. If you want to say once things are fixed it's worth a buy that's one thing. To suggest that it would be in someone's best interests to get the game right now with all this going on is misleading, it makes the community look bad. They should be watching each other's backs and preventing others from getting in the same situation.




The game as I play it isn't broken. I play offline franchise and the game works for me.


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# 47 asjdwf21 @ 04/01/17 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by countryboy


The game as I play it isn't broken. I play offline franchise and the game works for me.


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I'm waiting for the OSFM rosters to drop


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# 48 The JareBear @ 04/01/17 01:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaysonguy
The people who are saying this is a must buy right now are doing people who don't have the game a huge disservice.

The problems with the game are on social media and other sites besides this one, they are not isolated incidents.

These aren't little glitches, the servers being a problem days after launch, the game resetting people's experience sometimes multiple times a day, the game freezing mid game, games played but not counting, getting booted out of games and being credited with a loss, load screens that are 30+ minutes, having to wait minutes for menu screens to change.

The argument of "well it's not happening to me" does not work because not only do other users in here say they're having the problems but SDS says yes, they know these things are happening.

Everyone who has the game right now and is dealing with problems have paid a premium. They have the game during launch week when it's going to be it's most expensive. They are rewarded with a game that is currently broken.

Saying right now the game is a buy is irresponsible. If you want to say once things are fixed it's worth a buy that's one thing. To suggest that it would be in someone's best interests to get the game right now with all this going on is misleading, it makes the community look bad. They should be watching each other's backs and preventing others from getting in the same situation.
Jayson, I appreciate your opinion on the matter. I definitely think it stinks that gamers who play certain modes primarily are kind of having a rough go with the game right now.

I do think that for a lot of gamers the game is still a great purchase, but hopefully the things that are hampering the experience for you and others get ironed out with a patch or whatever ASAP
 
# 49 countryboy @ 04/01/17 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by asjdwf21
I'm waiting for the OSFM rosters to drop


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I'm too impatient lol


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# 50 CaseIH @ 04/01/17 01:49 PM
IMO, its a must buy. I passed on 16, so I cant compare it to last yr game, but I did have 15, and its a bug step forward from 15, and 15 was a solid game that I enjoyed.

I am disappointed than Spring Training hasnt been improved on, and there still is only 1 park for grapefruit, and 1 park for cactus league games. Really had hoped they had added in more ballparks for spring games.

The CPU does seem to make better decisions on pitching changes, but when it comes to PH' and then replacing a position player its still porr at. As I saw a team put a player in at C after PH'ing, that didnt play catcher. Not sure if they can fix that in a patch, my guess is they cant.

All in all its a great game, as usual. 1 thing with MLBTS you can count on is there game being solid each yr, and you cant always say that about some other sports games.
 
# 51 Bullit @ 04/01/17 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaysonguy
The people who are saying this is a must buy right now are doing people who don't have the game a huge disservice.

The problems with the game are on social media and other sites besides this one, they are not isolated incidents.

These aren't little glitches, the servers being a problem days after launch, the game resetting people's experience sometimes multiple times a day, the game freezing mid game, games played but not counting, getting booted out of games and being credited with a loss, load screens that are 30+ minutes, having to wait minutes for menu screens to change.

The argument of "well it's not happening to me" does not work because not only do other users in here say they're having the problems but SDS says yes, they know these things are happening.

Everyone who has the game right now and is dealing with problems have paid a premium. They have the game during launch week when it's going to be it's most expensive. They are rewarded with a game that is currently broken.

Saying right now the game is a buy is irresponsible. If you want to say once things are fixed it's worth a buy that's one thing. To suggest that it would be in someone's best interests to get the game right now with all this going on is misleading, it makes the community look bad. They should be watching each other's backs and preventing others from getting in the same situation.

So you are basically saying that anybody who plays the game differently than you has no valid argument for liking the game or recommending it to other people?

Not everyone is having the problems you are. Ignoring the fact that some people are enjoying the game and not having problems is just as frustrating for us. I play only offline. I am not having any problems playing my game and having fun with it. Saying this game is completely broken and nobody can enjoy it or play it because they can't play the way you want them to, this is what is irresponsible.

In my opinion if you really want to get into it. I feel that those having online issues are victims of your own insanity. Online in this game has never worked well at launch. Yet every year you all get upset that it doesn't work right at launch. Doing the same thing time after time expecting different results is the exact definition of crazy.

I am sorry online is not working for you. But this mode is not the entirety of the game and not everybody plays the game the way you do. So I think you need to get over it and let people play the way they want to and enjoy it for what it is.
 
# 52 deadly_titanfart @ 04/01/17 04:24 PM
I mean who put this article together? Terrible.Your Pros are a intro video and Franchise saves can carry over? How about:

Improved graphics

New Ball Physics

Sun Life Park

Better fielding animations

Better Lighting

RTTS PYP

I mean there is all these new features yet you could only come up with those 2 pros. Makes me think you have no idea about this game. My bet is that you never even touched it for longer than 20 minutes
 
# 53 AncientDiety @ 04/01/17 05:07 PM
Best Sports game ever made, period. The leap this year is one of the biggest ever for the franchise.
 
# 54 caseyj622 @ 04/01/17 05:18 PM
Depends how much you like baseball and if you have 4k and a pro IMO. If those things don't matter much, you could pick up 16 or even 15 and be content for very cheap. For me, I am a die hard sports fan so with the HDR enchanced graphics, new ball physics, and MLB Network presentation this was absolutely a steal for me. Plus, throw in retro mode and you can play with your kids or just a night with your friends. In fact I went out and traded my og ps4 and bought the ks8500 just so I could play this game in all its glory.
 
# 55 oilersfan99 @ 04/01/17 05:37 PM
I would say it's a buy but for offline for another week. That being said, I have almost completed conquest, gotten all my rewards and done everything I've wanted to do online. I still won't play online games for a bit but that is a choice because I know what the servers are like.

I play road to the show and enjoy that a lot.

I can't believe hardly anyone talks about the fielders improvements this season. To me this is massive. Good fielders make great plays and below average ones play like they are below average.

Take that and mix in the ball physics and the players faces and there are huge improvements in the game, to me enough for the game even though the online sucks right now.


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# 56 DarthRambo @ 04/01/17 05:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaysonguy
The people who are saying this is a must buy right now are doing people who don't have the game a huge disservice.

The problems with the game are on social media and other sites besides this one, they are not isolated incidents.

These aren't little glitches, the servers being a problem days after launch, the game resetting people's experience sometimes multiple times a day, the game freezing mid game, games played but not counting, getting booted out of games and being credited with a loss, load screens that are 30+ minutes, having to wait minutes for menu screens to change.

The argument of "well it's not happening to me" does not work because not only do other users in here say they're having the problems but SDS says yes, they know these things are happening.

Everyone who has the game right now and is dealing with problems have paid a premium. They have the game during launch week when it's going to be it's most expensive. They are rewarded with a game that is currently broken.

Saying right now the game is a buy is irresponsible. If you want to say once things are fixed it's worth a buy that's one thing. To suggest that it would be in someone's best interests to get the game right now with all this going on is misleading, it makes the community look bad. They should be watching each other's backs and preventing others from getting in the same situation.
Thank you for your honesty! I will be holding off for now. I'll see what's being said here on OS once a 2-3 patches come through. Servers I could care less about, but general gameplay wise it's a killer. MLB 16 with updated rosters sounds most appealing thus far.

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# 57 chuckclc @ 04/01/17 10:13 PM
Fielding improvements alone are worth the buy. I loved 16 but dont see how I endured it with such unrealistic fielding glitches. Almost completely fixed in 17. Well not "fixed" but totally redone.
 
# 58 chuckclc @ 04/01/17 10:15 PM
The only issues that are happening are server issues, as expected. They werent as bad as last year, and last year wasnt as bad as 15, but it will take probably a full week or 2 to be up and running smoothly. Obviously there is nothing they can do about this until the game is actually live.
 
# 59 Tonic @ 04/01/17 10:43 PM
I've always known this series exists but I've always had an Xbox and have never played it (last baseball game I think I played was MVP Baseball 2005). I'm hearing a ton of good things and have seen a lot of videos and it looks amazing! Especially franchise mode!

I love NHL but sadly it'll never be anywhere as good as MLB or NBA 2K. I'm highly considering buying a PS4 just to play this game (and a few others that I've heard good things about). I love sports games and while baseball isn't my favorite sport, this franchise mode looks too deep and detailed and fun for me to pass up.

Should I do it?
 
# 60 Trackball @ 04/01/17 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonic
I've always known this series exists but I've always had an Xbox and have never played it (last baseball game I think I played was MVP Baseball 2005). I'm hearing a ton of good things and have seen a lot of videos and it looks amazing! Especially franchise mode!

I love NHL but sadly it'll never be anywhere as good as MLB or NBA 2K. I'm highly considering buying a PS4 just to play this game (and a few others that I've heard good things about). I love sports games and while baseball isn't my favorite sport, this franchise mode looks too deep and detailed and fun for me to pass up.

Should I do it?
My sport of choice is not baseball--it's basketball.

But I first got The Show with 14, and have NEVER had a bad experience with it.

Even NBA 2K has had some missteps, especially with this year's game. But I've never had such with The Show.

Go get it. If you can afford a PS4 Pro and the game, go get it. Even a normal PS4 (which I still use) would be pretty good.
 


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