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NHL 15: Reviewer Impressions (PS4/XB1)


After a delayed and protracted PR schedule, people are finally getting to play NHL 15 on Xbox One and PS4. To say that there has been a lot made of the missing EASHL and other features would be an understatement. Fans have made their feelings known that the absent features and modes are going to impact purchasing decisions, while EA has remained steadfast in their belief that the game will stand on its own merits and make people believers (well, only for so long, as EA plans to patch in certain elements).

After playing the game for some time, three things remain clear in my mind: this is the best-looking version of the game to date, it plays very well, and it’s not worth the full asking price.

Those three things may create a dissonance for some, but the fact is that the game feels like a situation where the priorities were completely skewed towards presentation, with some emphasis on gameplay improvements as well. What this means is that game modes and functionality (read: reasons to play) have been put on the chopping block, creating an experience that’s really hard to reconcile. It’s one thing to create “a foundation” for the future; it’s another to strip out 70 percent of the modes in order to ship a product on time.

This creates a really difficult scenario for someone reviewing the game, as there are possibly other factors at play over at EA HQ. One might reasonably ask: “Why wasn’t the dev team given more time? Why were they asked to do so much with not enough resources (money, people, tech)?” These questions, and others, may never truly have answers, but we’re left with a game that, at first glance, does a lot right in some key areas, but then it just omits any reason to play it (online or offline). On top of this, it’s got some baffling omissions of basic functionality that we’ve come to, reasonably, expect as automatic in a game like this.
 


What it comes down to is that this game seems like something that would only be enjoyed by those who just want a barebones hockey experience, with one-on-one versus play or a simplified season mode. If that’s all you’re after, then maybe NHL 15 is up your alley. The problem is that this is 2014, and users have come to expect a certain amount of functionality for both their offline and online experience, and NHL 15, from what I can see so far, just doesn’t have anything resembling that experience.

Fans of the series would likely have understood if a small handful of features went on hiatus for a year (GM Connected and Live the Life, for instance), but when those things are absent as well as about 20 other modes and features, it just dispels any notion of NHL 15 possessing long-term value.

The sad thing is that my experience with NHL 15 on the ice has been quite good so far. I enjoy the pace of the game this year, and there is a lot more weight to the players and the shots. Turning the settings up to all-star or superstar and moving the gameplay slider to “hardcore” manages to create an experience where the CPU will act aggressively in certain scenarios (still not enough in the neutral zone) and force the odd turnover. They are even able to score on cycle plays in the offensive zone, which makes hit timing and poke-checking a must.

The revamped puck physics seems to have reduced the absurdly high and wonky bounces of the past and replaced them with more moderate puck bobbling and bouncing that’s closer to the ice. This means that passes will actually need to have some measure of control before they are made, and setting up one-timers can be quite difficult if under duress. The new physics have made certain passing situations a bit frustrating, but I’d rather have some possibility for error as compared to auto passes all day.
 


The types of goals being scored are a bit more familiar, with lots of sniped short-side wristers, some one-timers and some deflections. It’s a little disappointing seeing the short-side stuff still go in with such velocity and regularity, but there is still some variety thanks to the new puck physics. There is now a separation with upper and lower body for deking, and this changes the timing slightly when approaching the net and moving side to side. You’ll still be able to rifle shots, but there is a bit more pace on the dekes now, meaning things feel more deliberate.

Goalies animate somewhat better this year, but that doesn’t mean they don’t still have some odd behaviours. The puck-covering reach still happens, resulting in the odd goal, and they also still wander from the net to go after pucks they shouldn’t. Then again, hybrid icing being present this year helps with some of that, and the 12-man collision physics creates for some hilarious pile-ups in front of the net.

Defense, generally speaking, seems relatively similar to before, with strafing and hitting feeling slightly more heavy and deliberate. The poke-check has a deeper lunge now, and it seems tuned about right. It is frustrating that you can no longer seem to bump the puck away from offensive players, as jostling into them rarely seems to clash with the puck, creating scenarios where players are able to sort of roll off you and still have the puck.
 


From what I’ve seen of the presentation, it certainly looks like a good deal of effort went into that, creating a dramatically better game day experience (video of arena flyovers, voiceovers, graphics). The NBC branding and commentary team give that piece of the game a good shot in the arm, but the commentary does seem like a first-year effort, thanks to some docile line reads and less-than-ideal audio stitching. Mike Emrick actually falls behind the play quite a bit, which can be bothersome. I do like the three-man team, though, as Ray Ferraro adds some solid insights from down at ice level. The arenas themselves look tremendous, as does the revamped crowd tech. There is fantastic detail in each of the arenas, as the stairways, banners, jumbotrons, boards, ice and sightlines all feel unique from one another. This detail is amplified by the new crowd, which gets copious screen time on goals and period breaks, showing unique character models who add a great deal of frenzy to the game. Kudos on that crowd. Of course, the player models also look dramatically better, often presenting a strikingly similar facsimile to their real-life counterpart.

But then we’re left with reality of the situation: there just isn’t much to do in NHL 15. Be-A-Pro has basically been untouched — you know, except for the fact that you can’t sim shifts anymore, making the mode effectively useless. There is no Live the Life or meaningful career equivalent, and Be-A-GM is basically season mode with trades (no drafting). Add on to this the slew of smaller modes and features that are missing, such as Shootout, Winter Classic, Battle for the Cup, custom music or player creation, and things just start to seem really off.

Everything feels similarly wrong online, with just one-on-one play available (and even that has had a few lag hiccups). But don’t worry about any of the previous stuff, because Hockey Ultimate Team (HUT) is prominently displayed for all to see. Of course it is. The fact that this mode has been included (and many other things haven’t) speaks volumes about EA’s priorities right now. I feel sad for the dev team having to prop up EA's ridiculous moneymaker in the face of such a (seemingly) incomplete product.

Final Thoughts

Our review of NHL 15 will be posted during the week, but these impressions obviously don’t paint a very good picture for the new generation of hockey. It’s frustrating, disappointing and sad, because I know so many people who were hopeful for this game. Well, the game seems to be there, but the reasons to play it are apparently not.


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# 21 Inflict @ 09/08/14 03:02 PM
It's perfectly reasonable for fans to be upset that several game modes didn't make it into this years game, but I feel that too many people feel entitled as EA has spoiled us with a plethora of game modes in the past few years. The fact is, there are still a lot of game modes to play and should be enough to keep most gamers occupied for awhile. It does suck however that GM mode is incomplete and has to be patched, but I would rather have the game tomorrow then wait an extra month for it.

The problem I have is the same thing everyone else is complaining about. This shouldn't be a full priced game. Those who have bought or pre-ordered the game should at LEAST get some free HUT stuff or a free subscription to EA access for a year. A precedent (regarding games modes transferred over from last gen) was set with the next-gen Fifa and Madden games last year, so it's easy to see why people are upset. Lucky for me, I pre-ordered NHL on Amazon during their E3 sale while the game was still 59 dollars (plus 15% off).

Hopefully, EA listens to their fans and is planning something special (I.E. more content updates). The NHL team is usually quite good with fan input and and their community.
 
# 22 Inflict @ 09/08/14 03:10 PM
Also I wanted to point out that NHL 07, when it came out on 360, had several game modes missing from the previous generation. It was still a great game that made me purchase a 360.
 
# 23 Wiggy @ 09/08/14 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ZB9
Is it worth it if all I play is ranked head to head online? (X1)
If that's all you play, then you're probably going to have a better time than most. Again, the presentation and gameplay seem like they are something to care about, but a lot of users will feel quite adrift with so little to do and with so many missing pieces.
 
# 24 KomicJ @ 09/08/14 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaLiveKing
I bet if this game came out in November people will still complain about it coming out later than usual. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything. The price is the price, deal with it lol
I bet they would.

...however, not to the magnitude of what we've seen these past couple of days. A 2-months delay, in these circumstances, would've been much more accepted by the whole market than this.

Parts of that would of course require EA and the NHL dev team to communicate and be upfront about the issues (which they usually aren't very good at it), but if managed well, postponing the game, even if it had to be announced today, would be seen as a far better thing than this.
 
# 25 centauris @ 09/08/14 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dovuto86
I dont understand you at all..If you buy it for 60 dollars and play it for 3 months, Walmart will give you 40 dollars for it trade in so youd really only play it for 20 dollars.
what are you talking about?
 
# 26 statnut @ 09/08/14 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Inflict
Also I wanted to point out that NHL 07, when it came out on 360, had several game modes missing from the previous generation. It was still a great game that made me purchase a 360.
And that was then. When Madden and FIFA hit next-gen, they managed to get everything in and add things like coach glass, etc.
 
# 27 KomicJ @ 09/08/14 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaLiveKing
They stated they are adding new features this month and next month, so they will be working on improving the overall quality of the game. Whether the improvements will satisfy most or some is yet to be seen. Maybe some will hold off and see what the improvements are before they buy it.

Guys like me have no choice, cause I love hockey games and my 360 is KIA, so lol. But judging by what they did with the content updates with UFC, the game actually improved over time, so hopefully it's the same way with NHL
Believe me, I really hope it will. Just as I hope you'll have a blast playing NHL 15.

I'm from Montreal, so that gives you an idea how big of a deal the NHL series is for me. I owned every single game since the old SEGA Genesis days. So it's hard for me to skip this year's title. But without the ability to edit players (cause I'm that crazy the game), AHL Team and Auto-Draft (will be patched in), I just can't enjoy Be-A-Gm, which is the mode I'm primarily playing.

I thought the mode already had its flaws compared to other "Dynasty" modes in other sports titles (Scouting is weak, slow simulation, a few contract issues, offseason being way too basic, etc) so to see it go that much backwards is a dealbreaker for me.

But I'm stoked for NHL 16 though. Live draft is a feature that I was waiting for for quite a few years. If somehow they can get closer to Madden for Scouting, I will be a very happy gamer...next year !
 
# 28 Inflict @ 09/08/14 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by statnut
And that was then. When Madden and FIFA hit next-gen, they managed to get everything in and add things like coach glass, etc.
I mentioned this in my previous post. There is precedent for both previous next gen EA games (madden, fifa) but that does NOT justify having all the game modes in NHL (it does justify a price decrease however). Expectations need to be drawn from EA Sports NHL's previous foray into a new console market, not other franchises.

And regarding last year's Madden, it was just a glossy version of Madden 25 on PS3/360. Not a big upgrade in any way, IMO. Fifa 14 however, was a gem that will make it hard to recommend purchasing another Fifa game for years.
 
# 29 scottyp180 @ 09/08/14 04:02 PM
I can't understand how this game took a year off and is still missing so much. Nba 2k14, in comparison, released at lauch with the new consoles, had tremendous graphics (up there with the best for these consoles), was fully featured with some modes getting upgrades, and played well on the court (better than previous gen). NHL, in comparison, has great graphics, good presentation, solid gameplay (though not the major improvement I was expecting, but a lack of core modes. Sure 2k14 had its share of problems, issues, and glitches (which can be expected for a launch title) but on paper it would seem as though NBA was the game that took a year off not NHL.

I am picking up NHL since I do enjoy the gameplay and I mostly play quick games with friends but I am disappointed with the lack of change and improvement overall, including the missing features. When it was announced last year that NHL 14 would skip next gen launch my reaction was "Wow NHL 15 will be the real deal and show us what a next gen sports game should be". Wrong. The game, especially on ice, will still be fun and enjoyable but I am beyond surprised by the lack of features and innovation in this game.
 
# 30 spidertour02 @ 09/08/14 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dovuto86
To everyone not buying this game because of the missing game modes, Walmart will most likely give you 40 dollars for this game into November/December so if you buy it for 60 dollars, play it for a month or two it would only really cost you 20 dollars. It makes no sense not to buy it if you were planning on buying it to begin with
Unless you live in New York City like I do, where there IS no Walmart.
 
# 31 bad_philanthropy @ 09/08/14 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by spidertour02
Unless you live in New York City like I do, where there IS no Walmart.
Doesn't Target have a similar program? You could always hit up the Target at the Atlantic Centre in Park Slope. Pretty convenient. Have had to use it for various reasons over the past year while there on work.
 
# 32 statnut @ 09/08/14 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Inflict
I mentioned this in my previous post. There is precedent for both previous next gen EA games (madden, fifa) but that does NOT justify having all the game modes in NHL (it does justify a price decrease however). Expectations need to be drawn from EA Sports NHL's previous foray into a new console market, not other franchises.

And regarding last year's Madden, it was just a glossy version of Madden 25 on PS3/360. Not a big upgrade in any way, IMO. Fifa 14 however, was a gem that will make it hard to recommend purchasing another Fifa game for years.
And prior to that games didn't have online or franchise. Should we accept that with the same rationale if a game cut those modes from their game? No we wouldn't. Because we've advanced. Expecting a modern sports games to have the modes it has had in previous iterations (new gen or not) is not a crazy thought.

And my point in mentioning Madden and Fifa on PS4/X1 is that both games didn't have to cut modes out. And the whole reason there was no next-gen NHL 14 was so that they could take the extra time to work on NHL 15. For that effort, we got an incomplete game with promises of patches to include some of the missing things.

Never mind game modes, how do you release an NHL game that doesn't have the Three Stars of the Game. Little exclusions like that are inexcusable.
 
# 33 ericromain @ 09/08/14 06:47 PM
Great review Glenn, I agree with all your points, particularly with the way the puck physics have subtly changed the game for the better with more realistic bobbled passes and bounces.

I'm not sure I'm with you on your HUT cynicism. I think that's a pretty popular mode (judging by the amount of active teams that were in the NHL 14 leaderboards), on top of that I feel like it's a pretty bare bones mode, lacking the complex logic and simulation that is involved with BAGM, or the 6v6 gameplay of OTP/EASHL (remember how often those most crashed in NHL09?). HUT is mostly a random card generator and a custom roster maker with some stats, and an online auction system.

I'm one of those guys happy with just playing 1v1 online and the gameplay feels solid, but I definitely feel for everyone else. It's unacceptable for EA to have allowed such a stripped down game to ship.
 
# 34 Leafs fan 2112 @ 09/08/14 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Retropyro
Exactly how I feel about the game. I don't think I'd pay more that $25 for the game in it's current state. But here in Canada they want $69.99.
Yea and if you add in the tax its $79.09. Now with games like destiny,the new dragon age, and assassin's creed unity. How does EA justify selling us this when there are far more option than a bare bones game? At the very least, they should've delayed it. I would've been happier if they delayed it than to give us this.
 
# 35 Inflict @ 09/08/14 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by statnut
And prior to that games didn't have online or franchise. Should we accept that with the same rationale if a game cut those modes from their game? No we wouldn't. Because we've advanced. Expecting a modern sports games to have the modes it has had in previous iterations (new gen or not) is not a crazy thought.

And my point in mentioning Madden and Fifa on PS4/X1 is that both games didn't have to cut modes out. And the whole reason there was no next-gen NHL 14 was so that they could take the extra time to work on NHL 15. For that effort, we got an incomplete game with promises of patches to include some of the missing things.

Never mind game modes, how do you release an NHL game that doesn't have the Three Stars of the Game. Little exclusions like that are inexcusable.
You and several others clearly have unrealistic expectations. It's not just EA that comes across these types of issues when transitioning to a new console (gameplay over gameplay modes). Show me a yearly franchise that isn't a glossy port or a stripped down version of last gen. NBA 2K14 is missing several modes, is glitchy as hell to the point of frustration, and menu design is terrible. Call of Duty is just a glossy port. MLB the Show is missing several modes, and on and on and on. Only Fifa comes away on top and that my friend, is the only exception.

As for your other points, NHL 15 was mostly a one year cycle with most dev time spent on 360/PS3 during NHL 14 (check out Rammer's interview on this site). Also, three stars is not a game-breaker for me or anyone else. It's going to be added to the game anyways VIA patch, so it's not worth complaining about at all. It's like saying there are no nation anthems. Who cares.

People need to realize that gameplay is what drives a sports sim game like NHL. Therefore it makes sense to prioritize gameplay over more game modes. Want your old modes back? Go play NHL 15 for last gen and wait for NHL 16 to drop. Think NHL 15 is too expensive (you are probably right), wait for it to become cheap or trade in a game towards it.
 
# 36 mcpats @ 09/08/14 08:10 PM
Does anyone know if the dev team encountered some major problems when trying to make this game? It seems like their might have been some issue where bad code crashed what they were doing and the team had to double back and spend copious amounts of time fixing the bugs. It's the only explanation I can think of, because I sincerely think I remember EA saying they were skipping NHL 14 on next gen to have extra time to get the game right.
 
# 37 Inflict @ 09/08/14 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by twelveone
I don't want free HUT packs or free EA Access, I want the game modes that have been coming with the game for the past 7 years. Hopefully EA listens to their fans??? Were you born yesterday or did you just start playing video games a week ago? The NHL team hasn't listened to their community since 2005.
Seems like you are the one living under a rock. I guess you don't remember the community events or even bother to read any interviews. Go back to the EA forums with your other friends and continue to act like a super entitled 16 year old girl.
 
# 38 Christian9 @ 09/08/14 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Inflict
Seems like you are the one living under a rock. I guess you don't remember the community events or even bother to read any interviews. Go back to the EA forums with your other friends and continue to act like a super entitled 16 year old girl.

Dude do you work for EA??? Seriously. You just joined here and seem to have no clue what you're talking about. Your quoting other games with somewhat inaccurate information.
 
# 39 13whitebread @ 09/08/14 10:29 PM
It is almost crimminal what is going on here let's charge for a full game when it is an incomplete product. EA simply stunning. Bull-*#!#*!
 
# 40 joshtree14 @ 09/08/14 10:29 PM
I could deal with missing modes if the gameplay was revolutionary/ different. It plays like nhl 14. so where is this new base? Does this mean the game will play just like this in nhl18 with all modes back in?
 


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