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Major League Baseball 2K11 Mid-Review Update

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Day three in the new review process is the day that I am given carte blanche by our editorial staff to write about anything I want concerning MLB 2K11. Instead of boring you with my thoughts on the game's amazing soundtrack, I’ll cut to the chase and give some overall mid-week impressions on the game. I know that many of you are still on the fence out there regarding a purchase of this game, so I want to make sure to provide as much information as possible prior to my final review, which will hit early next week.

But before I dive into my thoughts on the game three days in, I wanted to give 2K a big pat on the bat for the inclusion of a dedicated Playoff mode. While not exactly the sexiest feature out there (at least according to the competition), dedicated playoff modes are an absolute must for me in a baseball game. Let’s face it, not all of our favorite teams are lucky enough to make the playoffs in real life -- let alone our respective franchises -- so such a mode is the only hope we have to see our team win a ring. 2K’s Playoff mode is customizable, easy to access and a whole lot of fun to play, especially should you have a couple buddies who are willing to come over for some local multiplayer.

All right, with that out of the way, let's move on.

In The Booth

I can’t say enough about the presentation in this game; it is fantastic. From the commentary to the statistical overlays to the MLB Today presentation to the crowd noise/interaction, MLB 2K11 raises the bar when it comes to broadcast presentation in a baseball game. John Kruk’s commentary is particularly fluid, adding in random facts about players and teams while holding my interest throughout multiple games. When playing the game on my Dolby 5.1 surround sound setup in my basement, there were times when I could have sworn I was watching an actual television broadcast.

Another area where I would like to give 2K high praise is for the player-interaction-cut-scene presentation. One of my major gripes about MLB 2K10 was that, aside from a couple fist pump animations, there was not a whole lot your virtual athletes would do to express their emotions. MLB 2K11 does a much better job of adding some player personality to the games. Pitchers become visibly upset when allowing big hits, offensive players show some emotion to accompany a wide variety of fist pumps when they reach base, and clutch offensive and defensive plays are celebrated by each team accordingly. Players feel alive this year, which adds to the overall sense of immersion on the field.

On The Field

As much as the presentation in the game continuous to impress me, the on-field gameplay is becoming increasingly pedestrian. This is not to say that I am not enjoying the game, it is just that the game's various visual bugs and animation slowdown that I discussed in my initial impressions article are wearing me down. It’s also not helping that the more I play the game, the more I begin to notice how ugly this game is graphically. While playing a game in Tampa last night, the broadcast camera while pitching in The Trop looked closer to something you would find in Bases Loaded on the NES than the 360. I’m no graphics whore, but when a game is as ugly as this one can be at times, it takes away much of my overall enjoyment of the end product. Most of all it makes me want to avoid playing as certain teams so I can spare my eyes the embarrassment of looking at such low quality visuals on my Xbox 360. This is not a good thing in a sports title.

I still have nothing but high praise when it comes to the hit variety of this game. I am still seeing new hits, and am very impressed with the additional timing windows that were added to the game when swinging. Waiting out a nasty 3-2 curveball, swinging late and slapping a bleeder to the opposite field for a crucial base hit never gets old in this game. Neither does working a 2-0 count and then keying in on a fastball only to crush it over the wall. Surviving your at bat is what hitting a baseball is all about, and the amount of weapons at your disposal to survive an at bat in 2K11, coupled with the brilliant default batting camera, create a worthwhile hitting experience.

Fielding has gone from an initial high point in the game for me to an area of frustration. I like how each fielder plays toward their real-life skills, I really do. Where I take issue is with MLB 2K11’s execution of these player-fielding differentials.

I get that a player of Danny Worth’s caliber is no Mark Ellis, but apparently 2K forgot that Danny Worth is still a Major League second baseman. The window for error is so small if you are controlling a non-elite player in the game that it gets frustrating because of the player's incompetence in the field. Magglio Ordonez is no prize in right field, yet every ball hit his way should not be an exercise in frustration to track down that ultimately ends with a circus catch. Add in some very imprecise analog player movement, coupled with the fact that many lower-tiered defenders inexcusably automatically bobble balls hit their way, and you have a recipe for disaster whenever a ball is hit to one of these liabilities.

There’s no doubting the importance of putting together a solid defensive team in real-life baseball. The thing is that in real life you can put a serviceable player somewhere in the field and expect solid play. This is not the case in MLB 2K11 because a “serviceable” player is bound to make at least one critical error per game.



With a solid weekend ahead of me, my plan is to dig deep into the game's My Player and Franchise modes. Look for my impressions on these critical game modes Monday, and the final review and score Tuesday. Follow me on Twitter @Bumble14_OS for live updates on my experience with the game, and feel free to ask any questions.


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Member Comments
# 21 Glenn33 @ 03/12/11 09:46 PM
I don't believe the graphics are Super NES bad by any stretch. That being said -- it is REAL hard to play Fight Night Champion, NBA 2K11 & The Show and then come back to this game. Really hard. Graphically this game is just not up to par with the curent crop of sports games. I don't think that's even debatable.

I do really like the gameplay - shortcomings and all. If it had graphics even close to the Show I would never play any other game.
 
# 22 spit_bubble @ 03/13/11 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bumble14
...And yes, the Trop (and the Trop only) looks like a game of Bases Loaded from the default broadcast pitching department...
I just played my first game there, and I don't really understand what you are talking about. Do you mean just the camera angle or what? I myself didn't have any problem with it, and besides isn't it supposed to replicate the real life TV Broadcast for that stadium? Did they just get it wrong or something???

I don't know, just seems like a minute and relatively inconsequential thing to harp on.
 
# 23 SoxFan01605 @ 03/13/11 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by spit_bubble
I just played my first game there, and I don't really understand what you are talking about. Do you mean just the camera angle or what? I myself didn't have any problem with it, and besides isn't it supposed to replicate the real life TV Broadcast for that stadium? Did they just get it wrong or something???

I don't know, just seems like a minute and relatively inconsequential thing to harp on.
Yeah, pretty sure it's the camera angle. It's very similar.

I think that, because the Trop is so ugly by default and the view is so zoomed out and reminiscent of the view in bases loaded, it gives a bad impression when coupled with he game's hit and miss graphics.

I would agree that it is one of the ugliest looks (if not the ugliest) I've seen in the current crop of sports games, but I don't think it's a good idea for someone doing a review for OS (regardless of the stage) to be slinging around hyperbole like that. It's almost as if it's a concerted effort to tweak fans of the series...lol.

It's one thing for people in the forums to do it (I mean, what would a message board be without hyperbole...lol), but anything that is going to be a front page "article" should exercise a bit more reason IMO.
 
# 24 swaldo @ 03/13/11 09:45 PM
Loving the defense so far. I was pitching against the CPU with a two run lead, one out with men on 1st & 3rd. Next batter grounds out to my shortstop towards 3rd base so he had to backhand it. I realized my only hope for a double play was to make two full-powered throws thus risking an error. No way! Instead I made medium powered, accurate throws sacrificing a run to keep their man on 1st base.

You always have to be on point and thinking - aware of each of your opponents batter & baserunner's speed, your fielders strengths & weaknesses etc. Whoever wins the millions bucks is going to have to put the best "D" possible on the field. Anyway, could it use some tweaking? Maybe, but it's so much better than what we've seen in past games so I hope they wont get slammed too hard on this area in the review.
 
# 25 GrandMaster B @ 03/14/11 12:17 PM
I think the game looks great. I have "The Show" as well and there are a lot of jaggies in that game. The colors pop out more in 2K's game and the lighting and shadows I feel are better. The announcing for "The Show" is pretty bland. The scoreboards on "The Show" are fantastic though, but I think Sony's game took a step back and MLB took a step forward. Now if they could only fix the framerate outside the lines.
 
# 26 TripleThreat1973 @ 03/14/11 01:28 PM
I thought the ability to rent a video game made reviewers unnecessary?

The comments in the review read as being biased. To exaggerate so in a review is not very professional, and it makes the other comments hard to take seriously.

Now, if he had some something about the visuals, such as cletes and gloves that appear to made out of wax, or from 1922, that would be accurate.

So far, just a lot of blah blah.

How does it compare to 2k7/8/9?

Exaggeration and nit-picking is not reviewing.
 
# 27 roadman @ 03/14/11 01:43 PM
As I said in the first impressions thread, it depends on your tolerance for graphics. I put up with a lot worse graphics on the PC with HH Baseball because it had great game play. It also had a ton of bugs, but it was the only baseball game I played.

This was a decade ago.
 
# 28 spit_bubble @ 03/14/11 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by roadman
As I said in the first impressions thread, it depends on your tolerance for graphics...
I'm already starting to forget about the ugliness that exists in some of the player models, just because the game is getting better and better the more I play it. In fact this game is quickly rising up the list of my all time favorite baseball video games.
 
# 29 DickDalewood @ 03/14/11 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by spit_bubble
I'm already starting to forget about the ugliness that exists in some of the player models, just because the game is getting better and better the more I play it. In fact this game is quickly rising up the list of my all time favorite baseball video games.
I'll probably finally pick this up today and have both games this year. I've read both good and bad, but I think my casual fandom will allow me to enjoy it... especially with how easily I can be won over by great presentation, lol. I'm excited though, it will be fun to own TWO good baseball games again.
 
# 30 roadman @ 03/14/11 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DickDalewood
I'll probably finally pick this up today and have both games this year. I've read both good and bad, but I think my casual fandom will allow me to enjoy it... especially with how easily I can be won over by great presentation, lol. I'm excited though, it will be fun to own TWO good baseball games again.
I don't feel you will regret it.

I've played several games and the only "hiccup/glitch" I've noticed is only once with the AI. That was when the score was tied with the CPU pitcher up in the 8th inning and runners in scoring position. It didn't take long to make the switch for the cpu, including warming someone up in the bullpen.

I don't get much stuttering, etc.....

HH baseball is still my all time fave, but 2k11 is making a push. I haven't said that about other 2k baseball games.
 
# 31 DickDalewood @ 03/14/11 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by roadman
I don't feel you will regret it.

I've played several games and the only "hiccup/glitch" I've noticed is only once with the AI. That was when the score was tied with the CPU pitcher up in the 8th inning and runners in scoring position. It didn't take long to make the switch for the cpu, including warming someone up in the bullpen.

I don't get much stuttering, etc.....

HH baseball is still my all time fave, but 2k11 is making a push. I haven't said that about other 2k baseball games.
Very cool. Thanks Roadman. Hey what system are you on?
 
# 32 roadman @ 03/14/11 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DickDalewood
Very cool. Thanks Roadman. Hey what system are you on?
360. I take it you are on the PS if you have another bb game.
 

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