EA FC 25 slider - analysis

[cruelchamp]

Quote: Originally Posted by AIvsAI

What you have been observing is somthing I call EA momentum. We have the below for each match in our single player careers: Simulation sliders, Ai sliders, EA momentum. Thankfully ea have given us the option to turn off tactical behavoiur, more on this another time. Ea momentum according to my observation over lets say 500 matches, does the below: Home team advantage, possibly 10% stat benefit for home team. Big game moments, last minute winners, I've been winning leagues without a loss and then suddenly lose the last 3 games, red card insanity, winning 2-0 then opposition gets a red card, I lose 4-2, so many times this happens. Game flow kicks in at the start, around 20-25 minutes changes, 60-75 mins again, last 5 minutes, you can see the ai switching between a normal performance, to a faster one, then to a slower one, seems to be 3 presets and random. Everybody testing sliders in career mode has this ea momentum in effect, its just clear, and it is still in eafc25.

You don’t think that was the AI behavior sliders in ea fc 24 .
Now it’s essentially been given to us to manipulate

My opinion is this Ai behavior sliders were the scripting that everyone always talks about
If u bump up the build up slider to 99, the gameplay goes super hectic n the goal fest unsues

What I want to test its leave custom Ai behavior all on 50 , then change to normal sliders on ultimate difficulty to get the best AI for gameplay

But difficult to test this since not on kickoff mode

[cruelchamp]

Would be nice if EA dev behind these sliders could do like a blog to explain it all

Because you can put crossing to 99, n the AI won’t cross all the time still - on world class . Idk about on ultimate diff

[AIvsAI]

I do not play the game with a controller per say, never, I only watch matches ai vs ai.

I beleive and have observed that EA momentum is in fc24 and fc25. I have ai sliders set to custom and ea momentum is in all the games I've observed, sorry this is just a fact, and a welcome one, creates some interesting games and situations.

I have crossing set to 61 and at the moment it has fixed the ai unwillingness to cross and silly cut backs from eafc24

I still believe that its 3 layers, sliders, ai sliders, ea momentum.

My ai sliders will surprise alot of people as my focus is on enriching and utilising the intelligence without user input error. I want to see expansive free flowing football, and the ai will do it, although not with these sliders being posted on forums and youtube, especially user vs ai.

Why can't you create a career game ai vs ai just for testing purposes?

[AIvsAI]

efc25 new cpu sliders have been amazing for me and my slider project. I've been able to turn off tactical and dynamic ai, this really hurts ai vs ai.

Now with custom sliders, the third layer of match manipulation has been seen, ea momentum has been proven to be a thing, as this is happening with cpu sliders, ai behaviour set to custom.

Today my sliders gave me a 1-1. Liverpool vs city, although xg of 3-2 was really high, my sliders have much work still to be done, although it's getting more fun the more ea let's us tinker.

AivsAi realistic/exciting slider set:

Difficulty Ultimate
Team level (Liverpool) Elite
Competitor mode On
Player based difficulty Off
Half length 10

I will post more just so you can have a try.

[cruelchamp]

Try the version 3 out

https://youtube.com/shorts/PcSej_ONt...XiR1GSN7uZPDHY

Mbappe is deadly and u have to adjust ur tactics to contain him

[cruelchamp]

Quote: Originally Posted by cruelchamp

Try the version 3 out https://youtube.com/shorts/PcSej_ONt...XiR1GSN7uZPDHY Mbappe is deadly and u have to adjust ur tactics to contain him

I did 3 matches - CPUvsCPU
Barca vs RM
First 2 games - no change in tactics - RM won first 2 games - their attack was overwhelming the Barca high line

3rd game - changed Barca tactic to defensive plus low defensive line
RM attack was contained and Barca won 2.0

RM vs Barca
Possession 45-55%
Shots 13-8
Passes 110-126
Pass% 90-86
Tackles 8-0

I do CPUvsCPU test to show if u play tactically u can out smart the pacey strikers but play a high line vs team like RM n u will lose

Tactics should be based on team ID and play style , I don’t think have a random slider control the behavior brings exciting matches
But rather one where the team tactics/formation and player strengths are neutral n not boosted the slider is key

[Wesyhood]

Quote: Originally Posted by AIvsAI

Hi, I've been playing AivsAi carreer mode daily since the lauch of fc24 and I would like to contribute. I've been reading your findings with curiosity. Although one thing to be very clear on is game difficulty, it needs to be looked at as ai intelligence. Ultimate is the only option to get the best AivsAi everthing needs to be built on this foundation, please see the below for support. fifauteam.com/fifa-25-difficulty-levels-explained I'm here to support creating a create a great AivsAi slider set, I'm new to this so please forgive any errors in advance.

I've been trying out CPU vs CPU as well but matt0 sliders didn't really cut it for me. I found a small channel claiming realistic cpu vs cpu sliders and I was like whatever I'll try anything and to my surprise matches played quite realistically. The channel recently posted an updated version and thought I have only tried out CPU vs Player I'm amazed how he got his values cause the gameplay is just fantastic cause I could actually see my tactics in action and my players reacting to what the role I tell them and top of that on legendary the CPU actually missed a 1 vs 1 and made errors. I'll drop the channel name if anyone wants to have a go or ask how he got them. The channel on youtube is Active Soccer News

[cruelchamp]

Quote: Originally Posted by Wesyhood

I've been trying out CPU vs CPU as well but matt0 sliders didn't really cut it for me. I found a small channel claiming realistic cpu vs cpu sliders and I was like whatever I'll try anything and to my surprise matches played quite realistically. The channel recently posted an updated version and thought I have only tried out CPU vs Player I'm amazed how he got his values cause the gameplay is just fantastic cause I could actually see my tactics in action and my players reacting to what the role I tell them and top of that on legendary the CPU actually missed a 1 vs 1 and made errors. I'll drop the channel name if anyone wants to have a go or ask how he got them. The channel on youtube is Active Soccer News

post them and provide your experience and even gameplay clips, what you like about the slider set etc, whether its for CPU vs CPU or not

Il make a separate thread for my own sliders so this thread can be just about discussion any personal findings on different slider settings