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OS Scores Explained College Hoops 2K8 Overview (Xbox 360)
Pros
Legacy mode; Customization; Newly edited rosters
Cons
Gameplay didn't pass the test of time; Simulated upsets happen too frequently; Outdated graphics
Bottom Line
The Legacy Mode is more than enough to offset unsatisfying gameplay. Given the current low price of this game, it’s a no-brainer purchase.
8.5
out of 10
College Hoops 2K8 REVIEW

College Hoops 2K8 Review (Xbox 360)

 
College Hoops 2K8, though well-received, didn’t exactly rack up the accolades when it first came out almost five years ago. In fact, Operation Sports gave the game a measly seven on the old review scale -- nowhere near an score for what has been considered an all-time classic by the OS community. But since then, a devoted cult following has sprung up around the game. A large community of gamers continues to play College Hoops 2K8 religiously. For this piece, I revisited the game based on the current OS review standards and used rosters from the 2011-12 season to see how well the game holds up and how we might judge this much-beloved title if it came out today. 
 
Critics of the sports gaming genre claim that many new games are little more than a roster update. Well, thanks to some talented and dedicated gamers, College Hoops 2K8 gets that roster update every year (and at no cost to gamers!). For this piece, I used Raiderfan’s most recent roster set.
 
The fact that high-quality rosters like Raiderfan’s exist speaks to one of the game’s strengths – customization. Individual players can be edited all the way down to their potential ratings. The create-a-school feature is solid as well. Add on the many unlockables, including jerseys and arenas, and there’s a lot to do in this one.  
 
Gameplay
 
In the gameplay department, it’s hard to complain too much about balance issues – of which there are plenty – because the game’s sliders function so well. Unfortunately, the core gameplay is really showing its age, and that’s a problem sliders can’t fix. Driving to the hoop is awkward. Quite frankly, the game doesn’t play well on the default camera angle. It’s very difficult to find space to drive to the hoop on default settings, and without using an end-to-end camera, it’s next-to-impossible. The inside game is difficult to control and your players miss a surprising percentage of inside shots on default settings. 
 
One feature worth mentioning is the “sixth man” momentum effects. When the home team is playing well, a little meter on the screen fills up to reflect their success. As the meter fills, the crowd grows increasingly raucous and home team players gain a boost in their ratings. The visiting team can halt this momentum by making their own great plays or calling a timeout. It’s a simple feature that’s executed very well. Games at neutral sites even include a meter for both teams, which shows nice attention to detail by the developers (Why is this not in NBA 2K?).
 
The gameplay isn’t terrible; it’s just unsatisfying, especially now that we’ve seen what is possible on current-gen consoles. For me, NBA 2K11 was the first game to really nail the interactions between a dominant point guard and his on-ball defender. After getting used to breaking down CPU defenses with speed or driving to the hoop and kicking the ball back out for a wide-open three, it’s tough to go back to a game where those things don’t really happen. In its time, College Hoops 2K8 had top-notch gameplay. But it can’t compare to recent titles.
 
 
Game Modes
 
Thankfully, the game’s version of a career mode, called Legacy Mode, is still stellar. Gamers have two options: Career and Open. The Career version has you starting out at a small school, building your reputation and ratings en route to better job offers. Meanwhile, Open Legacy Mode allows you to take over any program and max out your coach’s ratings right away. Whichever option you choose, you can swap teams between conferences, customize schedules and even add your team to a variety of in-season tournaments. 
 
Legacy Mode remains one of the deepest and most fun career modes ever seen in a sports game. The key to the mode’s success lies in how well recruiting works. You can begin tracking players as high school freshmen, and maintaining contact through their first three years of high school pays dividends when you’re recruiting them as seniors. Player ratings are gradually revealed through contact and scouting actions. Recruiting doesn’t include any of the “pitches” we see in the NCAA Football series, but it still feels rich. Perhaps the coolest part is that lower-ranked recruits can still turn in to difference-makers. Features like player progression and morale work better than expected as well. Simply put, Legacy Mode stands the test of time. 
 
Another cool Legacy Mode feature is the season preview, weekly wrap-up and Selection Sunday shows. The in-season shows aren’t complicated, but they add another layer of realism and immersion to the mode. The Selection Sunday show, though, is still awesome. There’s legitimate tension in watching the brackets revealed game-by-game. The show even identifies bubble teams before the brackets are revealed and finishes with a “who’s in/who’s out” breakdown of these teams. Again, immersion matters, and this feature is still a highlight. 
 
Unfortunately, the simulation engine generates too many weird upsets. Sometimes, you don’t want to play a game against Radford or Western Kentucky when you can just sim past it and move on to a more interesting game. But I lost simulated games against both in my first season – before winning simulated games against multiple top-10 opponents. College basketball is unpredictable, but this game takes it a little too far. Then again, I'm sure Duke and Missouri would have something to say about this.
 
Final Thoughts
 
Overall, the graphics and gameplay of College Hoops 2K8 don’t hold up very well. In fact, I’m surprised at how little I enjoyed the actual basketball games. But Legacy Mode remains one of the best career modes in sports gaming history. If 2K slapped college uniforms on [I]NBA 2K11’s[/I] gameplay and attached to the College Hoops 2K8 Legacy Mode, the result might be the greatest sports game ever. 
 
Graphics: Player models and faces that were goofy four years ago now look ghoulish. Animations are okay, although some player movements are clunky. The arenas, though, are beautifully rendered and incredibly detailed. 
 
Sound: Although the commentary gets old quickly, the crowd noise is great. It’s rare that a college sports game captures the intensity of an NCAA crowd, but this one does. 
 
Learning Curve: This game is challenging even on the default settings. But the controls are simple enough that anyone with a passing familiarity with basketball should figure things out in no time at all. 
 
Replay Value: Immense. Legacy Mode is deep, engrossing, and fun. It’s not hard to see why so many people are still playing. 

Member Comments
# 41 TDenverFan @ 03/26/12 09:11 PM
I always wind up putting down this game, only to pick it up in a month or two.... So good
 
# 42 phuddy1285 @ 03/27/12 06:21 PM
found at Gamestop for $2.99 about a week ago and without a doubt it was the best three bucks i have ever spent.
 
# 43 casual.gamer23 @ 03/28/12 11:47 PM
Please bring this back 2K!!! (and one more year of MLB 2K so the minor bugs can be wrinkled out and I can support the "underdog" gaming company that does a lot with a little--as opposed to EA that does a little with a lot **except for soccer, hockey, and occasionally golf**) 2K should have NBA, College Basketball, MLB, and NFL; EA should have College Football, FIFA soccer, NHL, Tiger Woods, and Skateboarding (Skate 3 was--and still is--awesome)!!!
 
# 44 casual.gamer23 @ 03/28/12 11:50 PM
After one more year of MLB 2K, EA can come back to MLB with MVP Baseball with the GM mode that allows you to set ticket sales, bobblehead days, fan appreciation days, etc. But after one more year of MLB 2K... That would be nice!
 
# 45 canucksss @ 03/29/12 02:31 PM
If 2K will revive this they will for sure make money. I hope in the next generation console, we could still play this game.
 
# 46 KG @ 03/31/12 09:59 PM
Even though the gameplay is outdated the memories from this game will live forever. The CPU would punish you like no other game when you lapsed mentally. Some notable games for me:

1) Taking my undefeated Wake Forest team (Jeff Teague, James Johnson, Al Aminu, Ish Smith, etc...) into the Carrier Dome and getting demolished by Johnny Flynn and that 2-3 zone. I was cold from the outside and the zone neutralized my athleticism on the wing.

2) Losing in Double OT in the elite 8 with my Hoyas vs Gonzaga. Twice I thought I had the game won only to see the Zags hit storm back and beat me.

3) Making the Final 4 with the Demon Deacons and getting blasted by eventual champion Louisville. Terrance Williams just dominated me getting close to a triple double. Their pressure defense was vintage Pitino.


I loved how there were hidden gems in recruiting as well as busts. You need a shooter, go out and recruit one. Recruiting was so deep and challenging. It actually made you think about how many scholarships you had available.

A day 1 purchase if it ever were to come out again.

An online legacy mode would be incredible.
 
# 47 therise77 @ 04/08/12 11:43 PM
2k needs to make a new college hoops game. PLEASE BRING IT BACK!!
 
# 48 cubsball899 @ 04/09/12 01:32 PM
i still don't understand how people prefer the newer gameplay to this. the players in this game feel so much more independent and alive. the movements are so much more real and it feels a hell of a lot more like basketball than the other games.

the only thing the new NBA games have over 2k8 is the different shot types, the fadeways and drifters, as well as the eurostep (although in the NBA games anybody can do the eurostep so its not like that even works well)

NBA 2k12/2k11 is so stiff and robotic, i don't get anywhere near as into those games as i do when i play 2k8
 
# 49 l3ulvl @ 04/09/12 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cubsball899
i still don't understand how people prefer the newer gameplay to this. the players in this game feel so much more independent and alive. the movements are so much more real and it feels a hell of a lot more like basketball than the other games.

the only thing the new NBA games have over 2k8 is the different shot types, the fadeways and drifters, as well as the eurostep (although in the NBA games anybody can do the eurostep so its not like that even works well)

NBA 2k12/2k11 is so stiff and robotic, i don't get anywhere near as into those games as i do when i play 2k8
I agree with you there. They player movements on the NBA franchise feel so mechanical to me. 2k8 isn't perfect, but the controls feel more responsive to me.
 
# 50 Lukin4 @ 04/11/12 06:17 PM
Just starting my 2nd season at Montana State after having a great start to my new career... made the the tournament after going 15-1 in conference play and dominating the conference tournament, but lost in the first round. still stoked though, 21-9 overall, completed 10 career objectives and scored a nice recruiting class for season 2... aiming for another tournament bid and a deeper run this season :-)
 
# 51 heaf8 @ 04/27/12 10:09 AM
Still playing this game. Created all-time teams for most of the schools in the bigger conferences and playing a season. This game has some of the best animations ever in a bball game.
 
# 52 AndrewAD3 @ 05/09/12 01:52 AM
After reading this I tried to find a 2K8 at my local Gamestop. There were none left .
 
# 53 tril @ 05/15/12 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by l3ulvl
I agree with you there. They player movements on the NBA franchise feel so mechanical to me. 2k8 isn't perfect, but the controls feel more responsive to me.
yup more responsive, and the dynamic passing is what I really like. I love throwing the perfect boune pass on a 3 on 1 fast break, or that perfect bounce past on a player with good hands cuttingf to the basket. I alos love it when some players cant handle the pass.
 
# 54 Reed1417 @ 05/16/12 03:06 PM
i just ordered this game from Gamestop online and i'm very excited to have it back in my hands. i regret trading this game in when i did all those years ago.
 
# 55 beecravey7 @ 05/17/12 12:23 AM
Does the game prompt you to download the patch. I got CH2k8 a few months back for the ps3 and I don't remember if it updated or not.
 
# 56 LFK @ 06/03/12 02:43 PM
Absolutely love this game. Thought I had finally gotten to the point of where I was done with it.........until this weekend. I've put in 7 hours over the past two days. When the urge to play some college b-ball strikes, this game is the only heavyweight still standing for me. Screw EA and their goofy, mediocre excuse for a college basketball game. March Madness/NCAA Basketball is a complete joke compared to CH2K8. I can't understand for the life of me why 2K doesn't bring this series back. I hear it blamed on poor sales. I thought EA was the reason why 2K had to drop the license because they got an exclusive deal with the NCAA? Even still, wasn't NBA 2K selling poorly before 2K11/MJ? They kept making those. You don't give up on a great game because it isn't out-selling Wii Sports. You stick with it and keep making it better. I can only imagine how good this game would be today if they kept it up.

Anyway, 8.5 sounds about right to me. This is a great game that stands the test of time very, very well. One of my favorite things to do is steal the ball and get out on a fastbreak and alley-oop to my big center with my surround-sound cranked. BOOM!!!!!!!! And the crowd goes YEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Love it!

Bring it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
# 57 Culture Rot @ 06/03/12 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cubsball899
i still don't understand how people prefer the newer gameplay to this. the players in this game feel so much more independent and alive. the movements are so much more real and it feels a hell of a lot more like basketball than the other games.

the only thing the new NBA games have over 2k8 is the different shot types, the fadeways and drifters, as well as the eurostep (although in the NBA games anybody can do the eurostep so its not like that even works well)

NBA 2k12/2k11 is so stiff and robotic, i don't get anywhere near as into those games as i do when i play 2k8
Stiff and Robotic? In comparison to 2k8? What game are you playing?
 
# 58 LionsFanNJ @ 06/03/12 02:52 PM
BTW 2k doesn't have the rights to do college basketball. Ronnie's mentioned this in passing on his twitter. Sad but neither company's game sold well at all. That's why we have no college hoop game right now. I hate it.
 
# 59 VandyRedskins21 @ 06/03/12 03:26 PM
Yea most people typically care about college basketball in March unfortunately so sales aren't going to be great when you sell that game beginning in November. It just doesn't work. It's a great game but it doesn't have a big market like the NBA.
 
# 60 smithdynasty @ 06/04/12 12:58 AM
I just posted this in a blog as well...

At this point my desire for college hoops 2k to return with updated gameplay is so great, I wrote this email to 2k's partnerships department. Let me know your thoughts....


To Whom it may concern,

I have an unprecedented "Never Been Done Before" opportunity for 2K
sports! As a member of the basketball gaming community, I would like to
begin a project on kickstarter.com (http://www.kickstarter.com/start)
to fund the resurgence of the College Hoops 2k series. Kickstarter is
a website dedicated to funding creative projects and initiatives.
Although not every proposed project is successful, many video game
projects have raised millions of dollars to fund their ventures. Just
recently "Double Fine" adventure game raised over $3.3 Million while
it only had a fundraising goal of $400K, with just over 87K backers
pledging various amounts of money
(http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...fine-adventure).

Based on my reading, it appears 2k chose to stop making this game
because the CLC licensing fees were extremely high coupled with the
lack of consumer interest in the game. I am aware that I cannot
validate this information, as I do not work for 2K. Personally, I
believe the consumer interest is there, especially if the "community"
helps spread the word (word of mouth is the best method of
advertising). With kickstarter.com, not only can you better estimate
the amount of consumer interest, but the super fans of the game (like
myself) can donate greater sums of money to push this project through.
I am beginning this venture with an email to 2ksports with
the following goals in mind:

1. Direction pertaining to who would be the best person to correspond
with for this inquiry

2. The minimum amount of money it would take for 2k to restart
production (this information is required by kickstarter as On
Kickstarter, a project must reach its funding goal before time runs
out or no money changes hands. That way, no one is expected to develop
a project with an insufficient budget)

Secondly, I would like to highlight why I believe this could be great for 2K.

1. PR- This is an excellence story! The passion of the gaming
community coming together to bring a game back. This would help kick
off the marketing of the game, as this has never been done before, and
2K would be front and center.

2. Over abundance - Games often raise much more than their funding goal.

3. Win-Win opportunity for 2k sports
 


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