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The Madden NFL 18 Creative Director, Rex Dickson has posted an image on Twitter with a brief description of each game style in the game. As noted earlier this morning, Madden NFL 18 will have 3 new game styles, Arcade, Simulation and Competitive. We should hear more details about these game styles as EA Play gets closer.

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# 261 ggsimmonds @ 06/06/17 08:13 PM
CFM may be the most played mode, but I suspect MUT is the larger sales driver and revenue generator.
 
# 262 ODogg @ 06/06/17 08:39 PM
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I'm pretty sure they meant to break up your long post into paragraphs, so, it's easier to read.

I don't think they meant to keep your post to only a paragraph, but to break them up into paragraphs.
Yeah, that's what I meant. I too have been known to post extremely long posts here on OS but I always break it up into small paragraphs, even if, grammatically it would be one long big paragraph.

It just makes it a lot easier to read if you do. People tend to skip over a huge wall of text that is not broken up.
 
# 263 Cowboy008 @ 06/06/17 09:30 PM
After Rex's tweet from earlier I'm not that excited for sim game style since it looks like it will play just like 17.
 
# 264 OhMrHanky @ 06/06/17 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowboy008
After Rex's tweet from earlier I'm not that excited for sim game style since it looks like it will play just like 17.


I would still hold out some hope it'll be different. I have a feeling it won't be exactly like 17. And/or it might be more like 17 without the patches. I'm thinking mostly on the QB accuracy issue. People said without the patches, they saw more QB inaccuracy. So, maybe sim in 18 will be tweaked even more that? But, overall, yeah, I think 18 sim will play a lot like 17, but I'm still hopeful for little things like QB inaccuracy.


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# 265 ODogg @ 06/06/17 10:33 PM
I think you guys need to ease up a bit on the doom and gloom. I really like how the game is improving each year and I'm really optimistic for Madden 18 myself.
 
# 266 OhMrHanky @ 06/07/17 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ODogg
I think you guys need to ease up a bit on the doom and gloom. I really like how the game is improving each year and I'm really optimistic for Madden 18 myself.


Lol. Oh yeah, man. Madden forums have been doom and gloom for a long time. [emoji6]. I was impressed with the changes they made starting with 13, and have been happy with the direction of this team. And, I think there was a good bit of positivity for 16 and 17. People have been mostly happy with Rex, but looks like it might be waning, now. Lol. I'm looking forward to seeing ea play, for sure. I buy every year, and hope for the best, anyways. I think 18 will be solid and if they really did fix a lot of legacy issues, u never know, this really could be the best game ever, and/or it might feel like it plays completely different (in a good way) without those little legacy issues. Right now is pure speculation, also. Lol. No real video out. We'll see.


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# 267 ODogg @ 06/07/17 07:01 PM
Madden is Madden, it has changed a lot through the years and has some things it does well and other things that most certainly could be greatly improved. I think some of you guys simply don't like Madden. And that's fine but expecting it to come out and be radically different is unrealistic because that is just not going to happen. This is a game that does pretty well sales wise from an established company to an establish audience that is not going to radically change. Ever.

I'd suggest some of you guys continue to communicate with EA but also to try to start tempering your expectations a bit or look elsewhere for other games that may better give you what you like in regards to modelling a sport.

A few years ago I just decided to enjoy the game for what it is, a video game based upon NFL football. Madden is not a hardcore, complex and in-depth simulation of the game of professional football and never will be.
 
# 268 SolidSquid @ 06/07/17 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ODogg
Madden is Madden, it has changed a lot through the years and has some things it does well and other things that most certainly could be greatly improved. I think some of you guys simply don't like Madden. And that's fine but expecting it to come out and be radically different is unrealistic because that is just not going to happen. This is a game that does pretty well sales wise from an established company to an establish audience that is not going to radically change. Ever.



I'd suggest some of you guys continue to communicate with EA but also to try to start tempering your expectations a bit or look elsewhere for other games that may better give you what you like in regards to modelling a sport.



A few years ago I just decided to enjoy the game for what it is, a video game based upon NFL football. Madden is not a hardcore, complex and in-depth simulation of the game of professional football and never will be.


The thing at least for me is the game did radically change. Way back in the NFL game heyday madden was great, but since the move to 360/PS3 they've been playing catch up, especially in terms of player movement and franchise mode, which back in the day made madden madden.

If I had the option to play a more realistically animating NFL game I would certainly try it but I have no such option.

I'm not the type of person to settle for something just bc it's what everyone else is doing.


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# 269 ODogg @ 06/07/17 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SolidSquid
The thing at least for me is the game did radically change. Way back in the NFL game heyday madden was great, but since the move to 360/PS3 they've been playing catch up, especially in terms of player movement and franchise mode, which back in the day made madden madden.

If I had the option to play a more realistically animating NFL game I would certainly try it but I have no such option.

I'm not the type of person to settle for something just bc it's what everyone else is doing.


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I was here and on other forums during the PS2 days. I can assure you that the mood of "Madden is lacking and has all sorts of problems" was in full effect back then just as it is now.

Not saying to settle, just saying to quit acting surprised when you buy the game and it's still Madden football. By now everyone should know what to expect from the game.
 
# 270 Skyboxer @ 06/07/17 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ODogg
I think you guys need to ease up a bit on the doom and gloom. I really like how the game is improving each year and I'm really optimistic for Madden 18 myself.
I've had that attitude the last couple years. Problem is , in the end, it always ends up being another "Madden" with a new number.
yeah some improvements but little IMO towards authentic gameplay.

Still waiting to see if there's a true coach mode (I haven't been around much so don't know it there's been any mention or not) and if there isn't I have plenty to keep me busy game wise and may buy it once it's under 30.00
 
# 271 ODogg @ 06/07/17 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyboxer
I've had that attitude the last couple years. Problem is , in the end, it always ends up being another "Madden" with a new number.
yeah some improvements but little IMO towards authentic gameplay.
I understand....well I had a tipping point with Madden about 3 years ago when I got fed up with some weird stuff in it. I just decided I was either going to accept it for what it was, a fun video game, and give up on it being a great football simulator, or just quit messing with it entirely..

In the end after I quit looking for it to be a real simulation and just started looking at it like being a fun video game I've enjoyed it a lot more.

And unlike many of you I still play Madden 17 a good bit and enjoy it. If Madden 18 is a little better and it's got some new stuff I'll be really happy with it.

I've already preordered the Madden 18 GOAT edition and I'm ready to ball..
 
# 272 tyberious4now @ 06/07/17 11:40 PM
Just browsing thru this forum it is amazing to me reading different comment from different generation of players. .....I'm telling my age **cough cough* 47 yrs old and still going strong with Madden since the beginning. ....

What people are expecting in a Video game vs real football is amazing...Has Madden improved over the years you betcha; will it every be a true simulation in every way I doubt it but it doesn't mean you can't enjoy it to its fullest...

I couldn't imagine playing this type of Madden game (which is very good to me in its current state) 20 something years ago lol..I'm telling you younger cats the progression of Madden though not perfect is leaps and bounds better when I first started playing......

Madden back then has never delivered a perfect game and I don't expect now just make the best out what ya have and game on!!!!!
 
# 273 jfsolo @ 06/08/17 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tyberious4now
Just browsing thru this forum it is amazing to me reading different comment from different generation of players. .....I'm telling my age **cough cough* 47 yrs old and still going strong with Madden since the beginning. ....

What people are expecting in a Video game vs real football is amazing...Has Madden improved over the years you betcha; will it every be a true simulation in every way I doubt it but it doesn't mean you can enjoy it to its fullest...

I couldn't imagine playing this type of Madden game (which is very good to me in its current state) 20 something years ago lol..I'm telling you younger cats the progression of Madden though not perfect is leaps and bounds better when I first started playing......

Madden back then has never delivered a perfect game and I don't expect now just make the best out what ya have and game on!!!!!
It's not even generational, You have old heads like you, me, ODogg, and Roadman who are more inclined to play the game, give our feedback on what we like and don't like and then roll with the reality of what the game is. Others who I won't name, but I know are in the same age bracket, take a much harsher approach in their analysis of the game, and their expectations of where they think the game should be by now limits their enjoyment of the game.

I think every age bracket has that same split opinion about Madden.
 
# 274 SolidSquid @ 06/08/17 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tyberious4now
Just browsing thru this forum it is amazing to me reading different comment from different generation of players. .....I'm telling my age **cough cough* 47 yrs old and still going strong with Madden since the beginning. ....

What people are expecting in a Video game vs real football is amazing...Has Madden improved over the years you betcha; will it every be a true simulation in every way I doubt it but it doesn't mean you can enjoy it to its fullest...

I couldn't imagine playing this type of Madden game (which is very good to me in its current state) 20 something years ago lol..I'm telling you younger cats the progression of Madden though not perfect is leaps and bounds better when I first started playing......

Madden back then has never delivered a perfect game and I don't expect now just make the best out what ya have and game on!!!!!
You're right there definitely needs to be a balance between fun and realism. I'm just asking for madden to do it better in terms of player movement/animations. There are games in the market today who do it.

Hopefully this is what the 3 new settings brings this year
 
# 275 Skyboxer @ 06/08/17 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ODogg
I understand....well I had a tipping point with Madden about 3 years ago when I got fed up with some weird stuff in it. I just decided I was either going to accept it for what it was, a fun video game, and give up on it being a great football simulator, or just quit messing with it entirely..

In the end after I quit looking for it to be a real simulation and just started looking at it like being a fun video game I've enjoyed it a lot more.

And unlike many of you I still play Madden 17 a good bit and enjoy it. If Madden 18 is a little better and it's got some new stuff I'll be really happy with it.

I've already preordered the Madden 18 GOAT edition and I'm ready to ball..
Oh I understand that. Which is why in the end I can easily pick up Madden 17 again (or just play NCAA on the 360 and get my coach only fix)
I agree and have accepted it will generally always be Madden, which is why if they don't bring more of what I want it really isn't a must own day one for me. Not a slam on them, just a "what I want vs what is available"

They announce a coach only feature and that changes everything.
 
# 276 Skyboxer @ 06/08/17 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tyberious4now
Just browsing thru this forum it is amazing to me reading different comment from different generation of players. .....I'm telling my age **cough cough* 47 yrs old and still going strong with Madden since the beginning. ....

What people are expecting in a Video game vs real football is amazing...Has Madden improved over the years you betcha; will it every be a true simulation in every way I doubt it but it doesn't mean you can't enjoy it to its fullest...

I couldn't imagine playing this type of Madden game (which is very good to me in its current state) 20 something years ago lol..I'm telling you younger cats the progression of Madden though not perfect is leaps and bounds better when I first started playing......

Madden back then has never delivered a perfect game and I don't expect now just make the best out what ya have and game on!!!!!
Well 51 here
Sure games like Atari and Intellivision were fun and a lot of good memories (Heck the LED handhelds gave great times.) but like you said.. it's been years since then.

I'm personally not expecting a 100% true simulation of what we see on TV at all.
I'll never complain about sock color or blades of grass being wrong, but I'll sure point out how Joe Blow plays as well as Tom Brady etc...
Those are the areas that are fair game IMO.

I give EA credit that they have improved the past 2 years and had a pretty big hole to climb out of. That is a plus. Just hope they continue to add more sim aspects and especially a deeper franchise mode WITH a coach only option like NCAA.

In the end I'm sure if TMW league fires up I'll be there....I just won't play much SP without a coach mode.

EDIT: Just caught up with more info on the game and am a bit more intrigued. (Still want Coach mode though lol )
 
# 277 Enigmatic52 @ 06/08/17 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyboxer
Well 51 here
Sure games like Atari and Intellivision were fun and a lot of good memories (Heck the LED handhelds gave great times.) but like you said.. it's been years since then.

I'm personally not expecting a 100% true simulation of what we see on TV at all.
I'll never complain about sock color or blades of grass being wrong, but I'll sure point out how Joe Blow plays as well as Tom Brady etc...
Those are the areas that are fair game IMO.

I give EA credit that they have improved the past 2 years and had a pretty big hole to climb out of. That is a plus. Just hope they continue to add more sim aspects and especially a deeper franchise mode WITH a coach only option like NCAA.

In the end I'm sure if TMW league fires up I'll be there....I just won't play much SP without a coach mode.
37 here.

I was a hardcore 2k guy. That game wasn't perfect and didn't have a perfect simulation of football.
But it was fun. It had enough realism to make me feel immersed into the NFL world.

That's all I want with Madden. Fewer quirks. Improved animations. More depth to the franchise.

I could care less if the cleats match the gloves..(i know that is important to some.)

Put enough slickness on it to make me feel like I'm playing a real NFL game. Not an Arena football game or some glorified 7 on 7 drill.

Make the trenches matter.
Make the teams matter and differences in players.

Too often, you can't the difference between the 5th QB and the starter...

Ah well.
 
# 278 msdm27 @ 06/08/17 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Enigmatic52
37 here.

I was a hardcore 2k guy. That game wasn't perfect and didn't have a perfect simulation of football.
But it was fun. It had enough realism to make me feel immersed into the NFL world.

That's all I want with Madden. Fewer quirks. Improved animations. More depth to the franchise.

I could care less if the cleats match the gloves..(i know that is important to some.)

Put enough slickness on it to make me feel like I'm playing a real NFL game. Not an Arena football game or some glorified 7 on 7 drill.

Make the trenches matter.
Make the teams matter and differences in players.

Too often, you can't the difference between the 5th QB and the starter...

Ah well.
30 here (just to add to the age bracket polling)

See, I'm actually totally on the other side

The gap/faults in realism when it comes to approaching a SIM game is what I CAN understand; I have a good understanding and respect for how difficult it must be to create a game that properly represents/simulates NFL football, with all that entails.

And I won't go into details, but what I mean by that is that there are such high degrees of development, randomness and variance in football when it comes to strategy, technology, physical conditions etc etc etc... that regardless of how hard Madden tries, it will never come close to providing this experience on a console (without it feeling stale/outdated after a short while).

What I DON'T understand is the other side of spectrum, I don't understand how we're in 2017 and things like the correct socks or equipment are still an issue.

See, developing features requires resources, money, skill and development time. All of those are true for making the game more SIM which is a challenge, but all they need to make the "frosting" on Madden be better is to allocate a resource to it, just that.

Having correct uniforms or a wide set of customization options should be a given in this day and age. And I don't think anyone would make this a UNIFORMS VS. GAMEPLAY discussion, because the two are not exclusive; the issue is only one of those two presents clear challenges as to why it is difficult to implement...

Making the game PLAY better is a huge challenge, making the game LOOK better should be well within the realm of possibility for Madden in 2017; and I'm willing to go as far as saying that even those who say they don't care at all about uniforms or socks would "feel" the game plays better if all these things we properly implemented in Madden + the current state of how the game plays.
 
# 279 DeuceDouglas @ 06/08/17 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tyberious4now
Just browsing thru this forum it is amazing to me reading different comment from different generation of players. .....I'm telling my age **cough cough* 47 yrs old and still going strong with Madden since the beginning. ....

What people are expecting in a Video game vs real football is amazing...Has Madden improved over the years you betcha; will it every be a true simulation in every way I doubt it but it doesn't mean you can't enjoy it to its fullest...

I couldn't imagine playing this type of Madden game (which is very good to me in its current state) 20 something years ago lol..I'm telling you younger cats the progression of Madden though not perfect is leaps and bounds better when I first started playing......

Madden back then has never delivered a perfect game and I don't expect now just make the best out what ya have and game on!!!!!
I'm 27 and I feel largely the same but I think since the transition to 360/PS3 that stance has kind of changed for me. If you showed 7-year old me playing Madden 97 on SNES today's Madden it would be absolutely mind-blowing. Hell, just going from Madden 2000 on the N64 to Madden 2001 on the PC and then Madden 2002 for the Xbox was mind-blowing in itself. But having played so much of those Madden's from 2002 to 2006 and I look back at the progression of those and feel like Madden (or football gaming in general) could be so much further than it is. I still play and love MVP 2005 but when I look at The Show, it looks exactly like what I would have expected MVP to look like given it had been able to stick around. It seems like every other sport had a game continuing to make those strides but Madden had that huge period of time where they severely stumbled and fell behind. I feel the exact same way about NBA Live and 2K Baseball. 2K Baseball was never a game that felt like it took those steps either and it eventually died out. I enjoyed NBA Live 10 a little bit but it was the same thing where it felt like a previous gen game with better graphics and it's still trying to make its way back.

Maybe it's the youngin' in me being stubborn or some of that good ole fashioned millennial entitlement but even with the strides it's taken in recent years in producing a solid football title, it will still always be hard to ignore the idea of where football gaming could, and potentially should, be right now. But the reality is this is where it's at now and hypothetical scenarios are irrelevant to the current state and future of the game. I've accepted it for the most part and really just want to see the game continue to get better and better each year but there still are certain things where I can't help but have the first thing that comes to mind is "how is this still an issue in 2017?."
 
# 280 msdm27 @ 06/08/17 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas
I'm 27 and I feel largely the same but I think since the transition to 360/PS3 that stance has kind of changed for me. If you showed 7-year old me playing Madden 97 on SNES today's Madden it would be absolutely mind-blowing. Hell, just going from Madden 2000 on the N64 to Madden 2001 on the PC and then Madden 2002 for the Xbox was mind-blowing in itself. But having played so much of those Madden's from 2002 to 2006 and I look back at the progression of those and feel like Madden (or football gaming in general) could be so much further than it is. I still play and love MVP 2005 but when I look at The Show, it looks exactly like what I would have expected MVP to look like given it had been able to stick around. It seems like every other sport had a game continuing to make those strides but Madden had that huge period of time where they severely stumbled and fell behind. I feel the exact same way about NBA Live and 2K Baseball. 2K Baseball was never a game that felt like it took those steps either and it eventually died out. I enjoyed NBA Live 10 a little bit but it was the same thing where it felt like a previous gen game with better graphics and it's still trying to make its way back.

Maybe it's the youngin' in me being stubborn or some of that good ole fashioned millennial entitlement but even with the strides it's taken in recent years in producing a solid football title, it will still always be hard to ignore the idea of where football gaming could, and potentially should, be right now. But the reality is this is where it's at now and hypothetical scenarios are irrelevant to the current state and future of the game. I've accepted it for the most part and really just want to see the game continue to get better and better each year but there still are certain things where I can't help but have the first thing that comes to mind is "how is this still an issue in 2017?."
Good point Deuce, when looking at things from a incremental improvement perspective, not due to newer/more powerful systems but rather due to inherent football content in the game, I guess Madden does come out sorely lacking (with regards to the bottom line of additions/substractions) when comparing 2000 vs 2017.

Maybe they want to make the game so SIM that they want us to approach it with QB mentality of "short term memory"
"Forget the past and just focus on what we're selling you for this edition"

I think that's the healthiest way to approach/enjoy Madden, in a vaccum. There's a lot of history with this game for us diehard gamers but I think the fact is we will never get to a point where Madden has "catched up" to our idea of what it is supposed to be.
 


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