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Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

  06:58 PM - November 4, 2016 by Steve_OS

The official Madden NFL 17 roster update for week 9 is available now. These weekly roster updates include changes to player ratings, depth charts, and injuries for all 32 teams.

(via @Equipment_Guru)
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This week is a midseason update, it reflects the consistency of how a player has been performing the whole season.

You can check all of the changes here. We've listed some of the changes below.

GOING UP
  • Greg Olsen +3 (Overall 96)
  • Tyron Smith +1 (Overall 96)
  • Harrison Smith +1 (Overall 95)
  • Brandon Graham +1 (Overall 94)
  • Aqib Talib +1 (Overall 94)
  • Trent Williams +1 (Overall 94)
  • Travis Kelce +5 (Overall 93)
  • Travis Frederick +1 (Overall 92)
  • Jimmy Graham +1 (Overall 92)
  • Andrew Whitworth +3 (Overall 92)
  • Dez Bryant +1 (Overall 91)
  • Tyler Eifert +1 (Overall 91)
  • Sean Lee +1 (Overall 90)
  • Taylor Lewan +1 (Overall 90)
  • Jordan Reed +1 (Overall 90)
  • Matt Ryan +2 (Overall 90)
  • Bobby Wagner +1 (Overall 90)
  • Jason Witten +2 (Overall 89)
  • DeMarco Murray +1 (Overall 88)
  • Mike Evans +1 (Overall 87)
  • Derek Carr +1 (Overall 86)
  • Amari Cooper +1 (Overall 86)
  • Morris Claiborne +4 (Overall 85)
  • Jacob Tamme +4 (Overall 85)
GOING DOWN
  • Chris Harris Jr. -1 (Overall 93)
  • Richard Sherman -1 (Overall 93)
  • Jamie Collins Sr. -2 (Overall 92)
  • Fletcher Cox -3 (Overall 91)
  • Tyrann Mathieu -4 (Overall 91)
  • Josh Norman -1 (Overall 91)
  • Vontae Davis -1 (Overall 90)
  • Patrick Peterson -2 (Overall 90)
  • Joe Thomas -1 (Overall 90)
  • Jadeveon Clowney -1 (Overall 89)
  • Russell Wilson -1 (Overall 89)
  • Linval Joseph -3 (Overall 88)
  • Darrelle Revis -3 (Overall 85)
  • Lavonte David -3 (Overall 84)
  • Derrick Johnson -5 (Overall 84)

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Member Comments
# 1 stooge 1010 @ 11/04/16 07:06 PM
Still didn't put dreds on jay ajayi. Missing cb Sammie Williams on colts and DT Richard ash on jaguars, what did they do that it had to take another day?
 
# 2 MoneyOvaHuds @ 11/04/16 07:24 PM
Why Willie Young get a decrease and I love the Whitehair and Howard love
 
# 3 Hornets and Saints @ 11/04/16 08:34 PM
Need BW Webb and Lasco on the Saints. Glad to see Mike Thomas getting his props. Also Peat is our LG and playing pretty well. Check his PFF scores.


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# 4 Yazan Gable @ 11/04/16 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by akathejoker
Why? Just why? Everytime someone getstraded to the Browns there ovr goes down every single time. It's happened for as long as u can remember. I remember Patterson the CB for the Eagles went to Cleveland and went from a 78 to a 71. Just cause Collins gets traded from the Pats he goes down 2 ovr?? Makes NO sense.
My theory on that is that they lower player ratings when they go to a worse team because it would inflate the OVR and god forbid you let the OVR calculations show a blatant mistake.

Could someone explain why the ratings differ between Play Now and Franchise? When I say why I don't mean explaining that the roster guru tunes play now/online rosters differently, what I mean is why are the team OVRs so drastically different from Play Now and Franchise? For example, the Cardinals (despite having No. 4 defense in the NFL by DVOA) now have a worse defense than the Raiders who you don't even need advanced statistics to tell you have a very bad defense. The team you would expect to be similar to the Raiders, the Falcons, have a defense 8 OVR points lower. According to the franchise mode's calculations, the Raiders have a defense as good as the Texans, Chiefs, Ravens, and Panthers.

A more stark difference is that the Vikings were shown as a 90 OVR team in Play Now but are an 81 OVR in franchise mode. It doesn't make sense that a team would be worse in Franchise than in Play Now by 9 points. To relate this to this particular update, the Cardinals went down 2 points in defensive OVR in Franchise mode but the Raiders stayed the same. Either they calculate OVR differently between Play Now and Franchise (perhaps scheme settings are being taken into account, but why would they before you even have a coach or player or owner selected?) or one of the numbers for total OVR is fake. While OVR in the end doesn't really matter (Took the 75 OVR Bears against the 86 OVR Packers, beat them 38-10 with the only Packer TD being a pick six,) considering OVR influences Franchise things like salary, depth chart (it shouldn't) and trades, that it is inconsistent is an obstacle when it comes to Franchise mode.

I also don't understand how the Cardinals are tied for 12th in defensive OVR and the Patriots are tied for 3rd in defensive OVR after this update.
 
# 5 vstro @ 11/04/16 11:32 PM
I'm a little bit curious as to why Joe thomas keeps getting his overall lowered. Every ware I look shows that he's having a great season. Only 1 sack given up and 1 penalty.. just seems odd
 
# 6 NINJAK2 @ 11/05/16 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by stooge 1010
Still didn't put dreds on jay ajayi. Missing cb Sammie Williams on colts and DT Richard ash on jaguars, what did they do that it had to take another day?
Damn. Was hoping Jay was addressed. Do you guys know if the commentary works for caps as well? For example if I create a Jay with dreads and put him on the dolphins will the commentators still comment on Ajayi's season thus far?
 
# 7 stooge 1010 @ 11/05/16 12:41 AM
I doubt it will work with a created jay ajayi, but if you want in franchise,just edit him to skin 7 and face 6. Plus if you create him , it will say he is a rookie
 
# 8 Chiefsfan881129 @ 11/05/16 01:03 AM
Whoever the roster guy is i feel like he clearly doesn't watch games or anything.

Now some players he has done a fantastic job with but its clear he just picks n chooses who to increase & decrease & its very lame.

I noticed a couple players on the chiefs who got decreasd for no reason.

#1 is CB Phillip Gaines he been injured but as with last week when played an entire game he continues to shine & shut down his guys & he gets his 1st career INT last week & has been one of our top rated pff guys & he goes down 2 points? Ok whats the guy on because i want what he takin if anything he should be a 77 overall.

#2 Mitch Morse C has been a Stud all year & consistent all year but drops? Um he should be a 75

#3 Derrick Johnson Has a great game & continues to have a monster season & he drops -5 ok this is going to far.

#4 Poe i can understand to a dagree because he doesnt get alot of sacks but always doing good every week yet he drops 4 points whatever..

#5 Mitchell Swartch RT best RT in league gets dropped because he gives up a sack while playing on an injured ankle that henders his footwork ummmmm k but he put together 2 good weeks & cant even get increased is the roster guy a browns fan mad because he left?

#6 how is Steven Nelson getting increased yet Gaines gets decreasd? It should be other way around Nelson is the one getting beat because hes soft & doesnt play aggresive.

# 7 how is it an injured Allan Bailey gets dropped when hes out for year but a struggling I took the $ and ran Jaye Howard gets increased instead of decreased makes no sense?

#8 LDT RG continues to have a very good yr but he goes down in ovr? Do you ever watch games ratings guy?

Lastly Terrence Smith you have him listed as a ROLB but he is a MLB for us please correct this .

Look i get he gonna decrease guys & rightfully so but he is decresing the wrong guys & not the correct ones

I watch all chiefs game & even dvr them to review players & its not cool a guy playing so well gets decreasd vs incresed but yet i sse #20 out there steven nelson getting bruned & he gets bumped up ok

Not trying to disrespect anyone he has done good with guys like Hill & Wilson just wish he be more consistent & put more logic in when it comes to ratings he gets paid to do these atleast get it right..

Thats it for now good night...

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# 9 wplatham @ 11/05/16 01:18 AM
Anybody know where you can download a spreadsheet of the updated roster? For whatever reason the official Madden database will only let you see one attribute at a time. [emoji35]


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# 10 Ruben2424 @ 11/05/16 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NINJAK2
Damn. Was hoping Jay was addressed. Do you guys know if the commentary works for caps as well? For example if I create a Jay with dreads and put him on the dolphins will the commentators still comment on Ajayi's season thus far?
The best recreation of Jay Ajayi is to give him face #51. Do NOT change his skin color, just change his face to 51. It looks like him plus it has the dreads.
 
# 11 Yazan Gable @ 11/05/16 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Phillyboi207
Raiders D has gotten much better from week 1 and on paper is pretty damn good. Also once we get Aldon Smith and Mario Edwards JR back I could def see our D rivaling those teams
I'm not saying the defense couldn't get better, but these roster ratings are based on how they've performed. Sean Smith and Reggie Nelson have not been doing as well as hoped and the defense as a whole has given up loads of yards and points. Despite this, it's 2 points better than one of the Top 5 defenses in the NFL? And the Patriots are considered to have an equally good defense than the Vikings? The Vikings have had a defensive OVR of 87 for weeks. The Patriots JUST CAME DOWN from their 89 Defensive OVR of last week to EQUAL the Vikings defense.

Here's the spreadsheet I've been keeping (no Packers because this was meant just to keep on hand for when I started franchises and, well, I was never gonna use the Packers.)
 
# 12 Slim4824 @ 11/05/16 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Yazan Gable
My theory on that is that they lower player ratings when they go to a worse team because it would inflate the OVR and god forbid you let the OVR calculations show a blatant mistake.

Could someone explain why the ratings differ between Play Now and Franchise? When I say why I don't mean explaining that the roster guru tunes play now/online rosters differently, what I mean is why are the team OVRs so drastically different from Play Now and Franchise? For example, the Cardinals (despite having No. 4 defense in the NFL by DVOA) now have a worse defense than the Raiders who you don't even need advanced statistics to tell you have a very bad defense. The team you would expect to be similar to the Raiders, the Falcons, have a defense 8 OVR points lower. According to the franchise mode's calculations, the Raiders have a defense as good as the Texans, Chiefs, Ravens, and Panthers.

A more stark difference is that the Vikings were shown as a 90 OVR team in Play Now but are an 81 OVR in franchise mode. It doesn't make sense that a team would be worse in Franchise than in Play Now by 9 points. To relate this to this particular update, the Cardinals went down 2 points in defensive OVR in Franchise mode but the Raiders stayed the same. Either they calculate OVR differently between Play Now and Franchise (perhaps scheme settings are being taken into account, but why would they before you even have a coach or player or owner selected?) or one of the numbers for total OVR is fake. While OVR in the end doesn't really matter (Took the 75 OVR Bears against the 86 OVR Packers, beat them 38-10 with the only Packer TD being a pick six,) considering OVR influences Franchise things like salary, depth chart (it shouldn't) and trades, that it is inconsistent is an obstacle when it comes to Franchise mode.

I also don't understand how the Cardinals are tied for 12th in defensive OVR and the Patriots are tied for 3rd in defensive OVR after this update.
In franchise the ratings reflect how well players match the scheme.

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# 13 stooge 1010 @ 11/05/16 12:30 PM
Why are they not fixing jay ajayi to dreds?peopple are complaining on ea sports forums to. Can they not fix hm without screwing something else up? They gotta know he needs dreds. I know it's minor but I like to have real accurate rosters.
 
# 14 Yazan Gable @ 11/05/16 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Slim4824
In franchise the ratings reflect how well players match the scheme.

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Originally Posted by Yazan Gable
A more stark difference is that the Vikings were shown as a 90 OVR team in Play Now but are an 81 OVR in franchise mode. It doesn't make sense that a team would be worse in Franchise than in Play Now by 9 points.

Either they calculate OVR differently between Play Now and Franchise (perhaps scheme settings are being taken into account, but why would they before you even have a coach or player or owner selected?) or one of the numbers for total OVR is fake.
You cannot fiddle with the schemes in franchise mode in such a way that you make a team change total OVR by 9 points, because for the most part it's an average of offense and defense so that means you'd have to lose about 18 points between offense and defense to make that happen.
 
# 15 scottyp180 @ 11/05/16 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by akathejoker
Why? Just why? Everytime someone getstraded to the Browns there ovr goes down every single time. It's happened for as long as u can remember. I remember Patterson the CB for the Eagles went to Cleveland and went from a 78 to a 71. Just cause Collins gets traded from the Pats he goes down 2 ovr?? Makes NO sense.
I wonder if in these situations they expect coaching and schemes to have a negative effect on players. So for Collins maybe they think he benefitted from playing on a more talented, better coached defense and that going to the Browns will hurt his production. Just a guess.

These are things that happen in the nfl and sports in general. Look at Deandre hopkins for example. From last year to this year there is no way he got less talented but with are worse qb throwing to him and possibly bad playing calling his production has dipped.
 
# 16 scottyp180 @ 11/05/16 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stooge 1010
Why are they not fixing jay ajayi to dreds?peopple are complaining on ea sports forums to. Can they not fix hm without screwing something else up? They gotta know he needs dreds. I know it's minor but I like to have real accurate rosters.
The past two years the released a player likeness update at some point during the season. My guess is that if they do it again this year, don't see why they wouldn't, that's when you'll see a play like ajayi get a hair update.
 
# 17 scottyp180 @ 11/05/16 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Yazan Gable
I'm not saying the defense couldn't get better, but these roster ratings are based on how they've performed. Sean Smith and Reggie Nelson have not been doing as well as hoped and the defense as a whole has given up loads of yards and points. Despite this, it's 2 points better than one of the Top 5 defenses in the NFL? And the Patriots are considered to have an equally good defense than the Vikings? The Vikings have had a defensive OVR of 87 for weeks. The Patriots JUST CAME DOWN from their 89 Defensive OVR of last week to EQUAL the Vikings defense.

Here's the spreadsheet I've been keeping (no Packers because this was meant just to keep on hand for when I started franchises and, well, I was never gonna use the Packers.)
As a Pat's fan I don't know how their defense has been ranked so high. I know the pats have technically been one of the better teams in terms of points allowed but they are by no means a gteat defense like the broncos, Minnesota (minus last week), Seahawks, or Cardinals.
 
# 18 Yazan Gable @ 11/05/16 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by scottyp180
I wonder if in these situations they expect coaching and schemes to have a negative effect on players. So for Collins maybe they think he benefitted from playing on a more talented, better coached defense and that going to the Browns will hurt his production. Just a guess.

These are things that happen in the nfl and sports in general. Look at Deandre hopkins for example. From last year to this year there is no way he got less talented but with are worse qb throwing to him and possibly bad playing calling his production has dipped.
They're not consistent on that either, though. Phillip Rivers has had the offensive line fall apart for the past two years and still had one of the most productive passing offenses in the NFL. He was rated worse than Andy Dalton who had the best supporting cast than the NFL. Meanwhile Aaron Rodgers they recognized had a questionable supporting cast and they lowered his ratings much less than they did for Rivers. Usering Rivers, he's still a very good QB, but when he's got mid-80s OVR and in franchise after a year or two he's a 79 OVR QB and is being passed over for Case Keenum, it's a problem.
 
# 19 sanderson13 @ 11/09/16 08:38 PM
Jay Ajayai now an 82 OVR!
 
# 20 KANE699 @ 11/09/16 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by akathejoker
Why? Just why? Everytime someone getstraded to the Browns there ovr goes down every single time. It's happened for as long as u can remember. I remember Patterson the CB for the Eagles went to Cleveland and went from a 78 to a 71. Just cause Collins gets traded from the Pats he goes down 2 ovr?? Makes NO sense.
I do this for most players if not all that go into a new system, its just awareness and play rec.
 

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