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PES 2017 Review

07:28 PM - September 16, 2016 by Steve_OS

After the dust settled and the honeymoon phase was over, Pro Evolution Soccer (PES) 2016 quickly lost its appeal. Despite being more responsive all the while adding more animations and Player ID, PES 2016 suffered from end-to-end gameplay due to a lack of fouls and some curious/poor AI defending. As news slowly rolled in regarding the 2017 edition, consumers like myself were cautiously optimistic that Konami would listen to feedback and create a balanced footy experience. Thankfully, this seems to be the case with PES 2017.

Read More - PES 2017 Review (Written by: Kevin Groves)

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# 21 stlducks @ 09/18/16 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by deejay2


	I will defenetly pick FIFA 17 this year.

Are we playing the same game? Not sure how the ball movement or net movement could be considered unnatural?

This is the best live ball we have ever had in a game.

For the net, I have had two different instances where keepers dove into the net and stopped. In Fifa they would glitch through it.

I'm honestly baffled by some of the complaints in this thread. I'm not saying this is better than fifa since everyone has their own opinions on the two games but some things people are saying are way off.

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# 22 C.J.S. @ 09/19/16 12:36 AM

9.0 is more like it.
would get a 9.8 if the presentation and animations were as good as fifa

# 23 Hagar03 @ 09/19/16 05:57 AM

What's wrong with the menus seriously? I know, it's the same design since years and it's simple but what would you guys change about it?

# 24 deejay2 @ 09/19/16 07:00 AM

stlducks yes we are.
I think graphics in PES 2017 is really bad compared to FIFA 17. It is better than in the last PES but I still think Konami should a lot improve graphics. Graphics is important, not only gameplay!
And this licensing also sux. It is stupid that after all those years Konami still can't get full license for the clubs.

# 25 Ronoko @ 09/19/16 01:36 PM

There are some rough areas with the graphics in PES (like the crowds although better than past years) but in many cases it's actually better than FIFA now. Some of the cut scenes and replays look more like an actual game than FIFA. So yes while the presentation needs works I don't think you can say anymore FIFA has better visuals. Exception maybe would be if you play fifa at higher resolutions on pc.

# 26 Ac3way @ 09/20/16 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by C.J.S.


	9.0 is more like it. would get a 9.8 if the presentation and animations were as good as fifa

I have read many post where people say FIFA has better animation. My brain just dosent get it, for me its compelete opposite. Could someone explain that to me, would like to know what i am missing and people are seeing?

# 27 BSDShoes @ 09/20/16 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ac3way


	I have read many post where people say FIFA has better animation. My brain just dosent get it, for me its compelete opposite. Could someone explain that to me, would like to know what i am missing and people are seeing?

FIFA fanboys and paid shills always say PES is "robotic", I haven't seen robitic animations from PES since PES 7 or so which is a decade ago. Animations in FIFA sometimes looks hilarious, like when a player runs the legs look like how a chicken runs.

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Originally Posted by deejay2


	I don't like PES 2017. Graphics is compared to Fifa 17 a looot worse. Gameplay is also not so nice. When I shoot i have a feeling that ball just doesn't go so natural. Nets also move unnatural.

Funny, I find the ball being the best I've seen so far in PES 2017 while I feel like I'm kicking a nerf ball in FIFA 17 (velocity is a bit too fast), and the net... don't get me started on that- nets in FIFA 17 are awful, yes worse than PES 2017's.

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Originally Posted by Hagar03


	What's wrong with the menus seriously? I know, it's the same design since years and it's simple but what would you guys change about it?

I would have liked PES 2013's menu, kind of like PS3's XMB menu style. Not a big fan of the tiles.

# 28 xicpanad @ 09/20/16 11:54 AM

I used to like Fifa animations, nets, overall stuff. But this game, it killed everything I�ve seen before. Ball physics does make a huge diference in gameplay, and some replays seem more realistic than ever.

Ball still seems a bit magnetic on passes, not as much as before though... and then I get that awe feeling when everything suddenly feels loose and random! The balance on this game is so, sooo well done!

I�m still with the demo and I can�t stop playing it. It�s pure adiction. When I realise, I�m screaming the typical "ohhhhh so close!!" on my couch. And not just on goal attemts, but also on a through pass attempt that would cause havoc, also on that tackle attempt that would get me in a very good counter situation... or simply on that unexpected loose ball just outside the box, begging for a first time powerfull shot.

I can�t stop repeating my self, what a gameplay lads! What a GAMEPLAY!!

# 29 xicpanad @ 09/20/16 12:14 PM

About the score, think what PES needs truly is a solid licenses system. They expect the communities to fill that gap with patches and all, but some just don�t want that, and some can�t even use patches (X1 users).

Musics? I don�t care. It�s a soccer game.
Menus? They are fine and serve their purpose.

Some fine tuning on offline options would be good, to turn Master League even more immersive.
But licenses? Ohh man that would be the best. In fact, I believe that this years edition gameplay together with correct licenses for top leagues would guaranteed a 10/10 on most reviews.

Think about it, this is what PES lovers (or better, soccer lovers) were wishing since PES 5/6. The balance on those games was sooo good. I have read lots of players asking for a HD version of PES 5/6, nothing more...

Well, I think this year we have something a "little" better than PES 5/6 HD version... or should a say... a LOT better?

# 30 bxphenom7 @ 09/20/16 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ac3way


	I have read many post where people say FIFA has better animation. My brain just dosent get it, for me its compelete opposite. Could someone explain that to me, would like to know what i am missing and people are seeing?

I don't get it either. I never liked overall animation in any EA Sports game since entering the PS3/Xbox 360 gen honestly.

# 31 RoyceDa59 @ 09/20/16 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xicpanad


	About the score, think what PES needs truly is a solid licenses system. They expect the communities to fill that gap with patches and all, but some just don�t want that, and some can�t even use patches (X1 users). Musics? I don�t care. It�s a soccer game. Menus? They are fine and serve their purpose. Some fine tuning on offline options would be good, to turn Master League even more immersive. But licenses? Ohh man that would be the best. In fact, I believe that this years edition gameplay together with correct licenses for top leagues would guaranteed a 10/10 on most reviews. Think about it, this is what PES lovers (or better, soccer lovers) were wishing since PES 5/6. The balance on those games was sooo good. I have read lots of players asking for a HD version of PES 5/6, nothing more... Well, I think this year we have something a "little" better than PES 5/6 HD version... or should a say... a LOT better?

I just think presentation needs to be better and this year they improved but the overall match day experience needs to be there. Konami have it in them just look how authentic the Champions League.

# 32 bredfan @ 09/20/16 12:45 PM

The biggest thing PES has over Fifa this year is the ball physics. It makes everything feel more organic and less "scripted" if you will.

In Fifa, I feel like almost every play is determined by the animation it wants to use, rather than the other way around, because of the ball not being it's own entity.

The one thing about Fifa I just cannot stand is watching the ball literally go through the player models. Ugh. Just writing it down annoys me to no end.

# 33 xicpanad @ 09/20/16 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RoyceDa59


	I just think presentation needs to be better and this year they improved but the overall match day experience needs to be there. Konami have it in them just look how authentic the Champions League.

Ah yes!! That detail is awesome indeed, and it adds so much to the match atmosfere! You feel you�re playing an important match. Jut like the commentary... Usually I turn it off and I do my own on the fly commentaries.
That�s when my cat leaves the living room...

# 34 xicpanad @ 09/20/16 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bredfan


	The biggest thing PES has over Fifa this year is the ball physics. It makes everything feel more organic and less "scripted" if you will. In Fifa, I feel like almost every play is determined by the animation it wants to use, rather than the other way around, because of the ball not being it's own entity. The one thing about Fifa I just cannot stand is watching the ball literally go through the player models. Ugh. Just writing it down annoys me to no end.

Fifa franchise is on a transition right now. They announced the new engine and everybody got excited. Underneath, the engine is there, but it�s covered with the last years code, so almost nothing new here. It all depends on how fast they can tune the engine for the next editions.

PES has come a long way, full of frustrations and people migrating to EA�s titles or even other game genres. Finally, we can clearly say they are feeling confortable now and presenting us with a satisfying product.

EA will eventually get there, but for now, all we have is a new engine doing the exact same thing. They might paint it with the clich� sentences "revolutionary colision system" or whatever, but there�s really not much to see there.

I don�t understant what took Konami so much to get here, but now I just hope they don�t loose sense and change things for worse in the future.

# 35 Gnemi @ 09/20/16 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xicpanad


	Fifa franchise is on a transition right now. They announced the new engine and everybody got excited. Underneath, the engine is there, but it�s covered with the last years code, so almost nothing new here. It all depends on how fast they can tune the engine for the next editions. PES has come a long way, full of frustrations and people migrating to EA�s titles or even other game genres. Finally, we can clearly say they are feeling confortable now and presenting us with a satisfying product. EA will eventually get there, but for now, all we have is a new engine doing the exact same thing. They might paint it with the clich� sentences "revolutionary colision system" or whatever, but there�s really not much to see there. I don�t understant what took Konami so much to get here, but now I just hope they don�t loose sense and change things for worse in the future.

I'm just tired of all the excuse making. EA make $650M a year from Ultimate Team alone. Think about that. There's plenty of resource to pour into offline experiences and they're simply choosing not to.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...million-a-year

# 36 RoyceDa59 @ 09/20/16 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnemi


	I'm just tired of all the excuse making. EA make $650M a year from Ultimate Team alone. Think about that. There's plenty of resource to pour into offline experiences and they're simply choosing not to. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...million-a-year

Yeah but you also have to take into consideration that game is pretty much a gaming ad board. All those licenses and exclusivity must eat into a good amount of that.

# 37 bredfan @ 09/20/16 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xicpanad


	Fifa franchise is on a transition right now. They announced the new engine and everybody got excited. Underneath, the engine is there, but it�s covered with the last years code, so almost nothing new here. It all depends on how fast they can tune the engine for the next editions. PES has come a long way, full of frustrations and people migrating to EA�s titles or even other game genres. Finally, we can clearly say they are feeling confortable now and presenting us with a satisfying product. EA will eventually get there, but for now, all we have is a new engine doing the exact same thing. They might paint it with the clich� sentences "revolutionary colision system" or whatever, but there�s really not much to see there. I don�t understant what took Konami so much to get here, but now I just hope they don�t loose sense and change things for worse in the future.

Yeah. I actually had high hopes for Fifa this year until I played the demo and saw that it was basically identical to 16, with 15's controls added back in. LOL

Oddly enough, for couch games against friends, I prefer Fifa by a mile because it does the end to end game so much better, IMO.

It's a shame that FUT is just so profitable. I mean, it's really hard to blame EA for focusing on it.

# 38 DBMcGee3 @ 09/20/16 04:12 PM

I don't understand why the lack of Option Files on XB1 would be in any way related to the PS4 review of the game, but I found most everything else to be very fair and truthful.

What makes PES shine, in my opinion, is the way that CPU opponents play. The passes and shots you'll see from them generally just make sense, and other than some of the elite players feeling a bit too tame, the CPU feels like you're playing a human opponent. I've been playing the FIFA demo for days now, and I may end up buying it anyway because I like so much about the game. That being said, the CPU opponents pale in comparison to those in PES, because there's so little in terms of play style variation and at times the tiki taka passing becomes very unnatural and frustrating. If the Option File guys are able to work some magic with the PES tactics, then you'll really see something special on the pitch.

# 39 kashik @ 09/21/16 01:31 AM

This game is a joy to play so far. I've had it for a few days and there isn't much that is annoying me with the gameplay. Perhaps a few hard tackles here or there that go uncalled, or how players slide in so unrealistically in their tackles. Some team tactics could use some tweaking, which is possible to do. Going to need more time before any patterns emerge, but it's looking like this is the football game to beat - past and present!

Outside of gameplay, PES could obviously use a bit of work. I haven't been able to get an online game going. From those that have reported playing, the experience isn't as smooth as Fifa.

Menus could always be done better. There's been improvements, but it still seems last-gen.

Licensing is still an issue, as it will always be, but OFs fix that for the most part. It would be nice if we had more real stadiums, or even a way to add stadiums much like kits. If Konami gave us the tools, they could rely on the community to effectively remove the advantage fifa has with licensing.

Waiting for some new OFs before I dig into ML, so the above is what I've seen so far. Great great game of football, with some slight issues with presentation.

If you're a football fan, and you play on PS4, it would be a mistake not to pick this one up.

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# 40 kashik @ 09/21/16 03:04 AM

One other slight issue is with goalkeepers. I'm seeing this a lot: on goal kicks, the keeper constantly chooses short ground pass to the defender off to the side and closest to the net.

I have seen this with many teams. What tactics is this associated with? Something we can manually adjust?

It's not a big deal, just not so realistic.

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