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# 41 LastActionHero @ 02/07/15 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nemesis04
While the colors of the soil match much better this year, the texture of the soil is most off in appearance to me. The best analogy I can come up with is the soil looks like a smooth finished table with crumbs(representing the disturbed dirt clumps) sprinkled on top. The two textures are two far removed from each other. Those dirt clumps are components of the existing surface so they should have similar texture visually. I am sure it is hard to replicate but that is the biggest disparity I see.
This exactly, (great in depth about the grass by the way) they say a picture says more than a thousand words well this picture shows exactly what Nemesis describes.


I hoped they would finally upgrade the dirt in 15 but by the way you describe it this is not the case unfortunately. You can upgrade the textures to a higher resolution texture all you want but it still looks flat (with some bread crumbs).
This should be more of a reference...


It's not extreme but definitely not a flat carpet.
 
# 42 Factzzz @ 02/07/15 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tnixen
He really said that?

Then perhaps they are waiting until they create brand new player models for the game that may include new body types, better cloth physics and new sweat free hats
One can only hope
 
# 43 Jimmydm90 @ 02/07/15 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LastActionHero
This exactly, (great in depth about the grass by the way) they say a picture says more than a thousand words well this picture shows exactly what Nemesis describes.


I hoped they would finally upgrade the dirt in 15 but by the way you describe it this is not the case unfortunately. You can upgrade the textures to a higher resolution texture all you want but it still looks flat (with some bread crumbs).
This should be more of a reference...


It's not extreme but definitely not a flat carpet.

Seems like what they need is some tessellation and bump mapping to bring a little volume to the dirt.
 
# 44 Blzer @ 02/07/15 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmydm90
Seems like what they need is some tessellation and bump mapping to bring a little volume to the dirt.
I'm sure they tried it and the framerate went to a halt. Combined with the grass blades and crowd models, it will take a lot more optimizing or processing power for them to get to this point.

In time we might have it, but obviously this upcoming installment will not be that time.
 
# 45 kehlis @ 02/07/15 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cabish
When u get mad and start cursing these os moda get upset and ban you,I am gonna say thought,wtf is this attack a person for their comments board ?..does everything a person say have to please a fanboy,wth!! No I have not seen the real flking game,Im looking at the fking two picture comparison and making my fking opion on the the pics..there is no damn difference but colors that's what.i see and that's wtf I say!
You can also be banned for circumventing the language filter such as above.
 
# 46 Jimmydm90 @ 02/07/15 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Blzer
I'm sure they tried it and the framerate went to a halt. Combined with the grass blades and crowd models, it will take a lot more optimizing or processing power for them to get to this point.



In time we might have it, but obviously this upcoming installment will not be that time.

Agreed. It's would take some work and power plus it's not major priority for most.

The game changer would be (an this would require a lot of processing power) being able to link tessellation with collision and ball physics so that the volume and bump map of the dirt effects ball movement and velocity. Maybe the PS5.
 
# 47 twogotwingz3 @ 02/07/15 09:30 PM
These graphics have nothing on MLB 2k7.... It's a shame smdh...it's been 8 years
 
# 48 seanjeezy @ 02/07/15 09:45 PM
Is there even a single 1080p/60fps game on PS4 with tessellation? I was going to say Killzone but the mp wasn't full 1080p. Honestly I don't think we'll ever see tessellation in this game without cutting back some of the other graphical effects or reducing fps, the hardware isn't strong enough. Remember that it takes twice the graphical power to run a game at 60 fps vs 30 fps.
 
# 49 Blzer @ 02/07/15 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by twogotwingz3
These graphics have nothing on MLB 2k7.... It's a shame smdh...it's been 8 years
That's a bit harsh. I understand MLB 2K7 really had something going with their cloth (overdone, but they had it) and player models were there, but I think with the new lighting here this will surpass anything 2K7 had in that department, which I was always jealous of. Same goes for the accessories upgrade.

You're definitely right in that 2K7 was ahead of its time, though. Sad how it regressed from there.
 
# 50 twogotwingz3 @ 02/08/15 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Blzer
That's a bit harsh. I understand MLB 2K7 really had something going with their cloth (overdone, but they had it) and player models were there, but I think with the new lighting here this will surpass anything 2K7 had in that department, which I was always jealous of. Same goes for the accessories upgrade.

You're definitely right in that 2K7 was ahead of its time, though. Sad how it regressed from there.

Im just being harsh because I'm starting to get sick of these so called "next gen" games man...especially since technology is supposed to be so great now...I don't see how any of these developers are missing what superb games like mlb 2k7, or NFL 2k5, or NBA 2k11, or MVP 05, etc etc...like you said "before its time" type of games...can we get those before its time type games and add it together with current technology!?!? Lol ....but yea of course you're right about the show having an edge now, but if someone could just simply remaster 2k7 on One and 4 it would make the show look bad...it wouldn't play as good as Show tho lol
 
# 51 LastActionHero @ 02/08/15 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by twogotwingz3
These graphics have nothing on MLB 2k7.... It's a shame smdh...it's been 8 years

Lets not get crazy here.


How big is that base by the way?!





 
# 52 LastActionHero @ 02/08/15 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by A_Quiet_Pro
Is it me, or does the darker dirt of 2K look more realistic than the light dirt of TS?

Amazing how the same texture, but different shading can make it look good or bad. Maybe the Show just needs darker dirt. (If they can't figure how to get "crumply" dirt). lol P.S.... They need darker dirt anyways... how many ballparks leave their dirt that light on gameday without wetting it down? NONE.



Camden Yards looks pretty accurate to me!
 
# 53 HozAndMoose @ 02/08/15 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by A_Quiet_Pro
Is it me, or does the darker dirt of 2K look more realistic than the light dirt of TS?

Amazing how the same texture, but different shading can make it look good or bad. Maybe the Show just needs darker dirt. (If they can't figure how to get "crumply" dirt). lol P.S.... They need darker dirt anyways... how many ballparks leave their dirt that light on gameday without wetting it down? NONE.
The shots from 15 look pretty good dirt wise. The color of it does anyway.
 
# 54 LastActionHero @ 02/08/15 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by A_Quiet_Pro
If you look closely at the scoreboard, you'll see it's the later innings. Dirt's dried up. (They only wet it down once, pre game).

Lets aim for dynamic dirt in The Show 16
On sunny days it goes from dark to light, and maybe they wet it again halfway the game.
 
# 55 twogotwingz3 @ 02/08/15 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LastActionHero
Lets not get crazy here.


How big is that base by the way?!










Cmon man..we're talking 360 vs PS4 here.... I'm not dumb but when you see the great stuff 2k did on 360 vs the ehhhh The Show is doing on PS4!!! ....read my reply to my reason for being harsh...dude 2k even had good faces!!!
 
# 56 countryboy @ 02/08/15 12:15 PM
I'm so glad I don't get hung up on visuals. To me the game looks amazing. Of course I grew up on Atari 2600 so maybe that has something to do with it.

 
# 57 Blzer @ 02/08/15 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by countryboy
I'm so glad I don't get hung up on visuals. To me the game looks amazing. Of course I grew up on Atari 2600 so maybe that has something to do with it.

I'm not as much of a stickler for textures and polygon count as I am for smooth framerate, little jaggies, and just an authentic look, meaning they capture the essences of the MLB brand correctly.
 
# 58 kehlis @ 02/08/15 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by twogotwingz3




Cmon man..we're talking 360 vs PS4 here.... I'm not dumb but when you see the great stuff 2k did on 360 vs the ehhhh The Show is doing on PS4!!! ....read my reply to my reason for being harsh...dude 2k even had good faces!!!
How about an actual in game shot rather than CGI?
 
# 59 countryboy @ 02/08/15 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Blzer
I'm not as much of a stickler for textures and polygon count as I am for smooth framerate, little jaggies, and just an authentic look, meaning they capture the essences of the MLB brand correctly.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to look bad or jagged or anything, just that in my opinion or I guess eyes, the game looks amazing.
 
# 60 Blzer @ 02/08/15 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kehlis
How about an actual in game shot rather than CGI?
It's not exactly CGI, those are in-game captures for sure. I don't remember if they had some kind of a blur tool even for us to try and use in replay mode, but that Matsui shot is directly from gameplay.

I'll see if YouTube has any gameplay videos of it. Strangely there are more PS3 videos out there than 360, and this game simply just did not look as good on PS3 sadly. No self-shadowing, choppier framerate, more jaggies, etc.
 


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