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NBA 2K15 Player Ratings Revealed For the 11th Overall Rated Player Through 20

06:14 PM - September 29, 2014 by Steve_OS

The NBA 2K15 player ratings have been revealed for the 11th overall rated player through 20. The top 10 will be revealed soon. A list of all of the player ratings that have been released so far, can be seen here.

11 88 James Harden SG HOU
12 88 Dwight Howard C HOU
13 88 Tony Parker PG SA
14 88 LaMarcus Aldridge PF POR
15 88 Dirk Nowitzki PF DAL
16 88 Anthony Davis PF NO
17 88 Derrick Rose PG CHI
18 88 Russell Westbrook PG OKC
19 87 Joakim Noah C CHI
20 87 Damian Lillard PG POR

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# 41 stillfeelme @ 09/29/14 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by isdatyt


	I like most of these ratings but, I feel like I'm not understanding this "Player type" argument. If you categorize players based on their play styles and then grade them on how good they are at that specific style, a guy like Tony Allen should be in the top 15. Sure he couldn't drop 25 points to save his own life, but as far as perimenter defense, LeBron, Jimmy Butler, PG13 and maybe Shumpert are the only other guys in the conversation. Right? What am I missing?

What appears to be happening to me is they have a calculator per position and player type. Each rating gets a different weight factor based off what player type calculation they are using. If say you have an defensive SG like Tony Allen they don't turn off all of the offensive ratings and rate only the defensive say for defensive player type which Tony Allen would be rated high at. They just turn down offensive weight factor in the defensive player type calculation.

So it is probably works something like this:

All Around Player Type each rating gets a 1.0 weight factor applied to each rating or something like this
Defensive Player Type, they probably apply a heavier weight factor say 1.25-1.5 or something to the defensive ratings but they are still using the other ratings but the weight factor is just lowered probably like a .75 or something on the scoring weight factors like shooting.
So if you are defensive specialist they don't just rate your on ball defense and say you are a 90 defensive because you have a 90 On ball defense rating and high def awareness your overall rating is 90 nope. They just weigh the defensive ratings higher in the defensive player type calculator equation.
You can apply the same thing for the athletic and rebounding as well.

# 42 Hotobu @ 09/29/14 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by isdatyt


	I like most of these ratings but, I feel like I'm not understanding this "Player type" argument. If you categorize players based on their play styles and then grade them on how good they are at that specific style, a guy like Tony Allen should be in the top 15. Sure he couldn't drop 25 points to save his own life, but as far as perimenter defense, LeBron, Jimmy Butler, PG13 and maybe Shumpert are the only other guys in the conversation. Right? What am I missing?

The idea is that attribute points in a category that a player is identified in are weighted higher. So "Steal" and "On ball defense" may be worth .3 points to a defensive minded player like Tony Allen, but only be worth .2 points to a guy like Kyle Korver whereas it's the reverse for shooting categories.

# 43 evilpimp972 @ 09/30/14 02:10 AM

So let me get this straight, Rose is an 88, and so is Westbrook? Did they watch the NBA? This isn't MVP Rose we are talking about...

# 44 t-mac357 @ 09/30/14 02:58 AM

On no planet is Stephen Curry a better player than Russell Westbrook. Westbrook's last 2 seasons are better than any season Curry has ever had and this postseason Russ was one of the leagues best few players while Curry had a terrible postseason. And that's not even mentioning defensively where Curry is nowhere near Westbrook.

# 45 grodbetatted @ 09/30/14 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by t-mac357


	On no planet is Stephen Curry a better player than Russell Westbrook. Westbrook's last 2 seasons are better than any season Curry has ever had and this postseason Russ was one of the leagues best few players while Curry had a terrible postseason. And that's not even mentioning defensively where Curry is nowhere near Westbrook.

Idk what games you're watching, but I'll take curry over Westbrook 10 out of 10 times

# 46 YaBoySykk @ 09/30/14 03:49 AM

My issue here is that 2K has kinda been doing Dirk wrong in previous years when he had better stats but a low to mid 80s rating. Now his stats are decreasing and you raise his rating to an 88? It boggles the mind!

# 47 tru11 @ 09/30/14 04:01 AM

i need to have a look again because i had no idea love was playing like a top 10 player last season lol.

# 48 ultima86 @ 09/30/14 05:06 AM

the raring i dont like the most, high or low, is Dirk. That 88 gets me everytime i see it

# 49 Sundown @ 09/30/14 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by t-mac357


	On no planet is Stephen Curry a better player than Russell Westbrook. Westbrook's last 2 seasons are better than any season Curry has ever had and this postseason Russ was one of the leagues best few players while Curry had a terrible postseason. And that's not even mentioning defensively where Curry is nowhere near Westbrook.

Curry is a better player, if only marginally. Curry's last postseason was underwhelming because of Mark Jackson's lack of offense and the pick and roll became extremely predictable. It's the equivalent of Westbrook without Durant.

Also Westbrook's defense is overrated. Flashy and athletic based on gambles, yes. Actual difference making according to advanced metrics? No.

# 50 Aderito @ 09/30/14 08:12 AM

So for does who are saying dirk is overated take a good look in the stats you will see who is overrated or correctly rated....

Dirk Nowitzki (2013-2014) - 21.7 PPG, 49.7 FG%, 39.8 3pt%, 89.9 FT%, 6.2 RPG, 2.7 AST, 0.6 BLK, 0.9 STL, 60.3 TS%, 23.6 PER, 108 DRtg. 120 ORtg, 8.6 OWS, 2.3 DWS, 10.9 WS.

Tony Parker - 16.7 PPG, 49.9 FG%, 37.3 3pt%, 81.1 FT%, 5.7 AST, 2.3 RPG, 0.1 BLK, 0.5 STL, 55.5 TS%, 18.9 PER, 107 DRtg. 110 ORtg, 3.9 OWS, 1.9 DWS, 5.9 WS.

Dirk Nowitzki has proven time after time that he's one of the upper top 15 most IMPACTFUL players to play this game yet he continues to be underrated because people will say "player A is the more "complete" player so he's automatically better" when in fact that's not always the case. Dirk is not a great defender but he always had a better Defensive win shares than Kobe (12 Time All Defensive team) and only Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Shawn Marion, Paul Pierce and Dwight Howard have a better career DWS than him in corrent NBA Players. He never was, and never will be, but understand, I weigh IMPACT heavier than "completeness"

# 51 City_foxx @ 09/30/14 09:20 AM

Pple complaining about bryants rating are forgetting about his alter ego. Kobe may be rated in the high 70's, but the black mamba is at LEAST a 92. Also....Tony Clifton

# 52 thedream2k13 @ 09/30/14 09:21 AM

Dirks physical attributes better be low and slow

# 53 Jakeness23 @ 09/30/14 09:23 AM

Harden should be an 86 or 85 IMO, he plays no defense and he often makes horrible passes that lead to turnovers.

# 54 killu4what @ 09/30/14 09:27 AM

I always love when I see comments like "86!?! he should be an 88." and " player x isnt a 90 he is at least 3 points better than player y"
Lol what's does that really mean. As long as the play like they do in the NBA overall isn't a big deal.

# 55 rhein77 @ 09/30/14 10:50 AM

Congrats to Bedswardsroy for doing the ratings. In previous years this thread would be unindated with bickering and arguing. I am looking forward to more accurate ratings this year and no more 2k insider!

# 56 stillfeelme @ 09/30/14 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ultima86


	the raring i dont like the most, high or low, is Dirk. That 88 gets me everytime i see it

Dirk is elite from a scoring perspective. Better than Kevin Love from a scoring perspective. Dirk doesn't attack the basket like that or what I would call elite. Almost no vertical and low dunk rating. However when he did take it to the paint he converted a high amount. He is basically in the elite shooting category 50/40/90. Bird, Curry, Durant elite of the elite from the history of the NBA. The only thing that knocks him down is he is not that good of a rebounder, shot blocker which is expected for a PF he also is not athletic.

Dirk shot chart is just wow man

At rim 78% 63M-81A only 10 dunks he is not an inside force
3-10 ft 58% 52M-90A
10-16 ft 49% 199M-410A
16-23 ft 52% 188M-363A
3pt 40% 131M-329A

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# 57 Sundown @ 09/30/14 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bedwardsroy19


	Although this might be very hard to do, I strongly suggest not looking at what a player ended the season at in 14 and compare it to their 2K15 rating. Last years ratings are very different, in most cases 2K15 is like starting with a fresh clean slate. The way that overalls are calculated are different, and as some of the screen shots suggest we have many different new attributes in 2K15.

Yet it seems like 2014 is the most logical base to evaluate players on, especially considering their injuries and even how they've looked in play post 2014 (Rose and FIBA).

Now if both Kobe and Rose (and Deron and Rondo) will quickly be knocked down when their play looks shaky, then I'm okay with that. But if their 2K ratings ride on reputation for most of the year rather than actual performance, that's going be rough.

Thing is, most knowledgable fans, analysts, fantasy, and Vegas all take these injuries and missed time into consideration rather than assume the players will be close to their peak out the gates. The latter have money involved--it's literally the safe bet. I'm a little confused why 2K should be all that much different.

# 58 bedwardsroy19 @ 09/30/14 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundown


	Yet it seems like 2014 is the most logical base to evaluate players on, especially considering their injuries and even how they've looked in play post 2014 (Rose and FIBA). Now if both Kobe and Rose (and Deron and Rondo) will quickly be knocked down when their play looks shaky, then I'm okay with that. But if their 2K ratings ride on reputation for most of the year rather than actual performance, that's going be rough. Thing is, most knowledgable fans, analysts, fantasy, and Vegas all take these injuries and missed time into consideration rather than assume the players will be close to their peak out the gates. The latter have money involved--it's literally the safe bet. I'm a little confused why 2K should be all that much different.

I wasn't talking about the 14 season, I was talking about NBA 2K14. Should have made that more obvious sorry about that!

# 59 reptilexcq @ 09/30/14 04:52 PM

Here's what I think:

11 88 James Harden SG HOU <---should be 90

12 88 Dwight Howard C HOU

13 88 Tony Parker PG SA

14 88 LaMarcus Aldridge PF POR

15 88 Dirk Nowitzki PF DAL <---should be 85

16 88 Anthony Davis PF NO

17 88 Derrick Rose PG CHI

18 88 Russell Westbrook PG OKC <--should be 91

19 87 Joakim Noah C CHI

20 87 Damian Lillard PG POR

# 60 gamingsinceatari @ 09/30/14 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by reptilexcq


	Here's what I think: 11 88 James Harden SG HOU <---should be 90 12 88 Dwight Howard C HOU 13 88 Tony Parker PG SA 14 88 LaMarcus Aldridge PF POR 15 88 Dirk Nowitzki PF DAL <---should be 85 16 88 Anthony Davis PF NO 17 88 Derrick Rose PG CHI 18 88 Russell Westbrook PG OKC <--should be 91 19 87 Joakim Noah C CHI 20 87 Damian Lillard PG POR

I agree with all besides Harden. He should be around 87-86. His bad defense should drop him down significantly. For his elite scoring ability he should have alot of badges.

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