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EA Sports just sent us the details for the NCAA Football 14 Uniform Pack DLC, which arrives tomorrow (timing based on 1st party). 21 teams and more than 120 individual uniform pieces are included in the free DLC.

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# 161 PackAttack @ 07/23/13 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfpackfanatic
Yeah, but I doubt that State would sign off on letting EA unveil the new jerseys before the school does. I can't wait to see what they look like. Doeren doesn't seem as conservative as TOB was with uniform designs.
Apparently Adidas signed off on it because they are the new ones. Took away the block S logo and added NC to the front of the jerseys. Placed a stripe down the pants and fixed up the red helmet. Gloves are looking good as well.
 
# 162 ncaafootball14markus @ 07/23/13 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JLoco11
I'll be honest... uniforms and accessories are nice and all, but it's all decoration.

And with 126 teams, it's impossible to get EVERY piece of equipment in the game. Considering the gameplay itself has issues, which would you rather have: An updated uniform, or a patched game that works properly without horrible glitches?

I'll take a properly working game any day over decoration. Does it truly matter that your shoelace color is incorrect when the opposing QB has ninja level throwing accuracy?
I cant stand people that make these sorts of comments. What part of Art Department and Gameplay Department do you not understand?!?! The guys doing the art designs for this game (which would include unis), are not those responsible for the game play and glitches. Why do you think this is a uniform and not a patch. Two completely different teams. We're expecting a patch in the future and i can assure you, no one is going to be upset if uniforms arent updated with the patch. WHY? Because that's the game play department! Smh.
 
# 163 JLoco11 @ 07/23/13 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ncaafootball14markus
I cant stand people that make these sorts of comments. What part of Art Department and Gameplay Department do you not understand?!?! The guys doing the art designs for this game (which would include unis), are not those responsible for the game play and glitches. Why do you think this is a uniform and not a patch. Two completely different teams. We're expecting a patch in the future and i can assure you, no one is going to be upset if uniforms arent updated with the patch. WHY? Because that's the game play department! Smh.
What part of "Have we seen a complete game yet" do you not understand?

Not once, in the 15 years the game has been offered, has EVERYTHING in the game been offered. Not once have we had complete conferences, teams, jerseys, accessories AND fixed gameplay.

This isn't Madden with 32 teams with rare uniform changes. This isn't NHL that doesn't always get beaten up over it's engine each year not being "realistic". This isn't any Pro game where you have to recruit high school athletes each year.

So yes, every year we lose out on quality. We lose out on uniforms, colors, stadiums, updates etc. And most of all, we lose out on GAMEPLAY.

While you enjoy your pink lady jerseys with cottontail rabbit accessories, the game's defense isn't working, the new recruiting model has serious flaws, hurry up is glitchy, QB's accuracy is off, fumbles aren't occurring enough, interceptions are occurring too much, simming still throws off stats, pancakes do not exist in game, DB's still stop and turn, Overtime games glitch out... all elements that EVERY user experiences EVERY single game.

Yet you think this holds the same weight as polka dot socks for West Bubble Fart University? This is why developers take less time each year to roll out a proper working game. People like you put stock in items that have limited value.

For the amount of time and money EA has to pay artists to research, develop, program and create jerseys, that's money taken away from a gameplay team. That's money being used on barbie doll accessorizing, while the product on the field suffers each year.
 
# 164 seasprite @ 07/23/13 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JLoco11
This is why developers take less time each year to roll out a proper working game. People like you put stock in items that have limited value.
Really? Thats the reason why?
 
# 165 TripleCrown9 @ 07/23/13 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JLoco11
What part of "Have we seen a complete game yet" do you not understand?

Not once, in the 15 years the game has been offered, has EVERYTHING in the game been offered. Not once have we had complete conferences, teams, jerseys, accessories AND fixed gameplay.

This isn't Madden with 32 teams with rare uniform changes. This isn't NHL that doesn't always get beaten up over it's engine each year not being "realistic". This isn't any Pro game where you have to recruit high school athletes each year.

So yes, every year we lose out on quality. We lose out on uniforms, colors, stadiums, updates etc. And most of all, we lose out on GAMEPLAY.

While you enjoy your pink lady jerseys with cottontail rabbit accessories, the game's defense isn't working, the new recruiting model has serious flaws, hurry up is glitchy, QB's accuracy is off, fumbles aren't occurring enough, interceptions are occurring too much, simming still throws off stats, pancakes do not exist in game, DB's still stop and turn, Overtime games glitch out... all elements that EVERY user experiences EVERY single game.

Yet you think this holds the same weight as polka dot socks for West Bubble Fart University? This is why developers take less time each year to roll out a proper working game. People like you put stock in items that have limited value.

For the amount of time and money EA has to pay artists to research, develop, program and create jerseys, that's money taken away from a gameplay team. That's money being used on barbie doll accessorizing, while the product on the field suffers each year.
So you'd be perfectly fine with your team not looking like your team?
 
# 166 JLoco11 @ 07/23/13 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by seasprite
Really? Thats the reason why?
Have you seen the EA forums? Have you seen Ben Haumiller's twitter account asking for things like Uga to bark to Notre Dame's stadium seat color being incorrect?

Part of the limited development cycle EA sports franchises have, is pleasing fans once the game releases. With NCAA, they have 126 teams worth of fans, compared to 32 in pro sports.... not to mention the smallest production team in EA Sports dedicated to an annual franchise.

So absolutely, people requesting minutiae each year is part of the problem.
 
# 167 seasprite @ 07/23/13 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JLoco11
Have you seen the EA forums? Have you seen Ben Haumiller's twitter account asking for things like Uga to bark to Notre Dame's stadium seat color being incorrect?

Part of the limited development cycle EA sports franchises have, is pleasing fans once the game releases. With NCAA, they have 126 teams worth of fans, compared to 32 in pro sports.... not to mention the smallest production team in EA Sports dedicated to an annual franchise.

So absolutely, people requesting minutiae each year is part of the problem.

I could agree with "part of the problem", but your post before said that this "was the reason for" which I disagree. The game has to look up to par and suggesting otherwise is absolutely burying your head in the sand. The reason for a lack of gameplay improvements that makes the game to the standard of most is that gameplay takes much more time and resources to fix. They dont have to fix it until they start seeing a drastic decline in sales...........thats the reason.
 
# 168 JLoco11 @ 07/23/13 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleCrown9
So you'd be perfectly fine with your team not looking like your team?
My 2 schools (grad and undergrad) have been wrong for 3 and 8 years in a row respectively. 1 stadium has never been fixed and still looks like the incorrect PS2 version, and my graduate school has 2 separate issues... jersey and missing alternate jersey.

At the end of the day, neither is a dealbreaker for me. What does lead me to buying this game every 2-3 years, is the consistent glitches that occur.

So when Oregon changes their uniform more often than kids change their underwear, and a schools rolls out a new helmet well after the game has been completed, the reaction of people over these details is overwhelming compared to gameplay mechanics.
 
# 169 JLoco11 @ 07/23/13 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by seasprite
I could agree with "part of the problem", but your post before said that this "was the reason for" which I disagree. The game has to look up to par and suggesting otherwise is absolutely burying your head in the sand. The reason for a lack of gameplay improvements that makes the game to the standard of most is that gameplay takes much more time and resources to fix. They dont have to fix it until they start seeing a drastic decline in sales...........thats the reason.
1 person complaining about a jersey = minimal problem.

When you get more threads on a forum, twitter account, youtube account asking for accessories over gameplay, then that's becomes the problem.

If the game had jerseys from 2005, you can understand... but how many threads have been made over a helmet missing from the game? Looking the part is 1 thing, but getting 126 teams accurate without flaw is a miracle.
 
# 170 superxero27 @ 07/23/13 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JLoco11
1 person complaining about a jersey = minimal problem.

When you get more threads on a forum, twitter account, youtube account asking for accessories over gameplay, then that's becomes the problem.

If the game had jerseys from 2005, you can understand... but how many threads have been made over a helmet missing from the game? Looking the part is 1 thing, but getting 126 teams accurate without flaw is a miracle.
The "gameplay only" jihad strikes again lol
And we go right back to the distinction between gameplay department and the art department.
Like it or not, visuals are EXTREMELY important to a game; they are the first impression you get of a game.
 
# 171 JLoco11 @ 07/23/13 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by superxero27
The "gameplay only" jihad strikes again lol
And we go right back to the distinction between gameplay department and the art department.
Like it or not, visuals are EXTREMELY important to a game; they are the first impression you get of a game.
And once again, nowhere did I say the visuals aren't important. From the very first post I made I said that being accurate with them, and adding them are fine...

But the key to any game is the actual mechanics on the field. It's great Oregon has 25 uniforms... yet someone who plays with Penn State can't play against Oregon because the no huddle defense doesn't work.

What do you think will keep people playing a game or leaving it... having a product that was tested properly before release so that it minimizes bugs, or having 400 different jerseys, of which the overwhelming majority of users will never use or see in game?
 
# 172 Adder15 @ 07/23/13 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JLoco11
And once again, nowhere did I say the visuals aren't important. From the very first post I made I said that being accurate with them, and adding them are fine...

But the key to any game is the actual mechanics on the field. It's great Oregon has 25 uniforms... yet someone who plays with Penn State can't play against Oregon because the no huddle defense doesn't work.

What do you think will keep people playing a game or leaving it... having a product that was tested properly before release so that it minimizes bugs, or having 400 different jerseys, of which the overwhelming majority of users will never use or see in game?
What does the art department have to do with gameplay
 
# 173 wkukicksbutt @ 07/23/13 06:23 PM
I understand that hey EA isn't going to get everything about every school's stadium, jersey, etc. right. But, what frustrates me is that, when EA obviously doesn't do any research on if they are accurate. For example, my favoirite team is obviously WKU, and have been in the game since either 08 or 09. Now, I am glad our stadium is in the game, and the outside of the stadium, with the clock tower and buildings is accurate, BUT that's about all that has been accurate.

First, I know it sounds silly, but they have the opposing sideline and home team sidelines on the wrong side. I know it seems like a little thing, but when you have attended 20+ games in the past few years at that stadium, it is real noticeable, and seems like a quick thing they can change.

Now, I understand that they don't have our new jerseys yet, which is understandable, we just revealed them last week. But, when, our jerseys have been wrong in the game for 3 YEARS IN A ROW is really frustrating. EA hasn't put names on the backs of the jerseys and the lettering is way too small and not spaced out.

Now, finally, the fight song. It's been about 4 or 5 years, and they still haven't put our fight song in the game, well technically. You see WKU has the SAME fight song as Ohio, yet after all this time, they still haven't even put it for WKU, it is in for Ohio.

Now, I know all this sounds trivial, but I know that WKU isn't the only school, that is inaccurate like this. And I believe that all schools should be as accurate as possible, especially if it is your favorite team. Seeing something not right for teams, makes EA look lazy. Not saying that they are, but when simple stuff like this is ignored for YEARS. It makes me think that all EA cares about is the big boys.
 
# 174 EKUSabre @ 07/23/13 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wkukicksbutt
I understand that hey EA isn't going to get everything about every school's stadium, jersey, etc. right. But, what frustrates me is that, when EA obviously doesn't do any research on if they are accurate. For example, my favoirite team is obviously WKU, and have been in the game since either 08 or 09. Now, I am glad our stadium is in the game, and the outside of the stadium, with the clock tower and buildings is accurate, BUT that's about all that has been accurate.

First, I know it sounds silly, but they have the opposing sideline and home team sidelines on the wrong side. I know it seems like a little thing, but when you have attended 20+ games in the past few years at that stadium, it is real noticeable, and seems like a quick thing they can change.

Now, I understand that they don't have our new jerseys yet, which is understandable, we just revealed them last week. But, when, our jerseys have been wrong in the game for 3 YEARS IN A ROW is really frustrating. EA hasn't put names on the backs of the jerseys and the lettering is way too small and not spaced out.

Now, finally, the fight song. It's been about 4 or 5 years, and they still haven't put our fight song in the game, well technically. You see WKU has the SAME fight song as Ohio, yet after all this time, they still haven't even put it for WKU, it is in for Ohio.

Now, I know all this sounds trivial, but I know that WKU isn't the only school, that is inaccurate like this. And I believe that all schools should be as accurate as possible, especially if it is your favorite team. Seeing something not right for teams, makes EA look lazy. Not saying that they are, but when simple stuff like this is ignored for YEARS. It makes me think that all EA cares about is the big boys.
From what I can tell EA cares more about the top tier programs than the smaller programs, like WKU. It would be nice to see all the teams uniforms correctly represented and the smaller things like team placement on the correct side of the field. With EA I don't see that happening, unfortunately.
 
# 175 youssefmeskin @ 07/23/13 06:47 PM
Please stop arguing it's really annoying
 
# 176 GarrettDB8 @ 07/23/13 09:55 PM
anything added to Oregon?
 
# 177 RP59 @ 07/23/13 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JLoco11
And once again, nowhere did I say the visuals aren't important. From the very first post I made I said that being accurate with them, and adding them are fine...

But the key to any game is the actual mechanics on the field. It's great Oregon has 25 uniforms... yet someone who plays with Penn State can't play against Oregon because the no huddle defense doesn't work.

What do you think will keep people playing a game or leaving it... having a product that was tested properly before release so that it minimizes bugs, or having 400 different jerseys, of which the overwhelming majority of users will never use or see in game?
What makes you think that we should have to choose between gameplay and visuals? To answer your question, it depends on the player. While you obviously don't care if the uniforms are correct, many players do. To some, that is even more important than gameplay flaws. Inaccurate uniforms may not be a deal-breaker for you, but it is for countless other players.

An entirely different team does art direction than gameplay. We aren't dealing with one guy in his basement trying to program all these things. There are multiple groups working to put the game out each year, funded by a 5 billion dollar corporation. Yes, there's no excuse for the many bugs and tuning errors in the game. That doesn't mean that it's irrelevant for teams to have outdated uniforms, numbers on the sleeves and shoulders, fictitious gray facemasks, missing uniforms, logo patches from defunct conferences, or inaccurate fields and stadiums.

Are the gameplay flaws relevant? Absolutely. Do they need to be addressed? No doubt. But uniform errors are also relevant, and judging by the number of comments on the uniform updates thread, one would be hard pressed to accurately label these errors as minutiae
 
# 178 BonesKnows85 @ 07/24/13 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by football200414
Over the past 10 years, collectively, Florida has not been the best in its conference. I think Nick Saban & Alabama have something to say about that. I hate Alabama but truth is truth.
I disagree. Alabama was really down before Saban arrived. Like Not making it to a bowl game/losing record down. Florida hasn't had a losing record since the late 70s.
 
# 179 BonesKnows85 @ 07/24/13 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BFig
You gotta relax man, it's just the font on the jersey's, it's not major. I can guarantee you if Florida got all new uniforms they would be in this update. EA is trying to get all the teams with new uniforms and not something as simple as a number font. It will come eventually but there's only so much they can do at one time.
LOL, technically, Florida needs 4 new jerseys and a new helmet. Along with the number font, the new SEC logo needs to be added to the helmet and jerseys.

Bottom line, Georgia made a simple font change. Months after us. There's was in game on release day.

It's funny when a fan of another team tries to downplay Florida not getting their new uniforms.

So you're telling me that UCLA's new gloves was more important that UF's jerseys?
 
# 180 PowerofRed25 @ 07/24/13 04:52 AM
I'm not understanding Nebraska's update. The DLC content said red base layer with red uniform which is incorrect, yet in the game, it is the correct red with white base layer and white with red base layer. Am I missing something? Was the content listing just mixed up?

Either way, glad it is correct in game. Nice that they updated to the new 2013 Adidas look. Also glad they made white socks and shoes default, I was tired of doing that myself. The textures and everything on the '13 unis are pretty cool. Wish you could select base layer independently though, I prefer the block N base layer rather than the stick N.

I feel like the front numbers on the '13 unis are too small, makes the Winning Tradition patch look huge. Not sure the snug fit of the new Adidas gear translates well to the game, just makes the front look out of proportion.

For those complaining about the stripes, I actually prefer them this way. It isn't exact, but it is better than the stripes being so high on the shoulder like they were on the default uniforms. You can still see the lower stripe in most cases in game, even with tight sleeves. The new way conveys the snug fit of the unis better than the old one.

Can't wait until the next update for Nebraska when they do our black unis for the UCLA game.
 


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