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NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Kobe - 93, Melo - 92, Rondo - 90

05:40 PM - August 27, 2012 by KB2009Champ

2K Sports just revealed NBA 2K13 player ratings for 3 more players.

Kobe Bryant - 93
Carmelo Anthony - 92
Rajon Rondo - 90

They already announced Kevin Durant is rated 95, Blake Griffin at 87 and Harrison Barnes at 75.

What are your thoughts on the NBA 2K13 player ratings so far?

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# 181 youALREADYknow @ 08/30/12 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by iLLosophy


	I understand what you are trying to say. The point I was making was, based on some of the ratings we saw in 2k12, and myself playing a year watching the types of jumpers people made in 2k12 last year, I don't think the person making the ratings fully understood the ramifications of giving Marreese Speights an 89 mid range jumper, at least when a human is controlling him. With the CPU, it's probably fine because of his tendencies will prevent him from going HAM since he's not programmed to take Carmelo like jumpers, but with a User that wants to let his sack hang, he can get away with making fair amount of contested jumpers with Speights in 2k12. In real life if a defender is not within like 1-1.5 arm lengths of Speights the moment he spots up (usually when he catches the ball), he's VERY money. But if a guy is within arms reach when he squares up, his shooting % falls dramatically (as with 95% of the rest of the respectable shooters in the nba). This dramatic fall in fg % doesn't convert in 2k12. I am hopeful since the 2k guys spent a lot more time working on tweaks this year that they figured this out and found some type of balance. Also with the new sliders Chris Smoove talked about, there might be a way to fix the issue i'm talking about on our own if it's still a problem out of the box.

Not to derail the thread, but there are still ways to account for that even in 2K12 with the limited tools at our disposal. Using the assisted FG% example from the previous post, around 80% of Speights mid-range shots are assisted compared to the league average of 60%. That needs to be accounted for. I'm not sure if you threw the 89 rating out as an example or not but his percentages wouldn't merit that rating anyways.

This might be a good topic for another thread, but it would be even better if these factors were objectively determined and included in the base roster and that's all that some of us are asking for at the end of the day.

# 182 Colts18 @ 08/30/12 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by youALREADYknow


	Further more, one season of production shouldn't be the standard for a veteran player who has an entire resume of data. That's a shallow analysis..

You should have seen the Iguadola 3PT rating discussion we had in that other thread. In people's eyes, whatever you shot that season = your rating.

# 183 youALREADYknow @ 08/30/12 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts18


	You should have seen the Iguadola 3PT rating discussion we had in that other thread. In people's eyes, whatever you shot that season = your rating.

LOL. I still remember people agreeing with the absurd 3PT rating that was given to Ricky Rubio after 40-50 attempts. That's the kind of statistical noise that needs to be removed from the discussion IMO.

# 184 Colts18 @ 08/30/12 08:16 PM

Nothing is worse than Kyrie Irving crying to 2KInsider that his dunks/vertical were too low. So what does 2KInsider do? Bump his vertical to a 91. He isn't even an athletic player in terms of verticality. I was pissed off at that.

# 185 Colts18 @ 08/30/12 08:44 PM

He does not have serious hops. He can dunk but to say he has serious hops is a joke. No where near a 90 in terms of vertical.

His dunk rating was fine so that he can only dunk on a fastbreak. He shouln't be dunking on anyone.

Don't tell me it wasn't Kyrie Irving when I know it was Kyrie. He asked for his dunks and vertical to be boosted and 2K Insider did exactly that.

Him having a 90 vertical is so undeserved.

# 186 Colts18 @ 08/30/12 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeC


	He had a 38 dunk rating. That means he was physically unable to dunk in 2K. 2K boosted it to a 60 or so. Personally, I would have been happy if it was at least 40-41, because that's where the threshold of being able to dunk is in 2k12.

I am saying his dunk rating should have been placed at the min that allows him to dunk. Which is a 45.

# 187 Colts18 @ 08/30/12 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chandlerbang


	thats how the nba determines league leaders in each category but on court performance. current On court production is the only thing that should matter with rating adjustments NOT what a player did in 2009 smh

What exactly does League Leaders have to do with attribute assignments? Attributes are qualities. Skills. Grades for ability. League Leaders is simply a yearly ranking of said abilities. Really a horrible reference point.

Again I ask, if a career 42% 3PT shooter has 1 bad year and shoots 33%, should he be rated the same as someone who is a career 33% 3PT shooter who also happens to be shooting 33%? I think not. That really makes no sense.

# 188 youvalss @ 08/30/12 11:04 PM

Question to you attribute-heads: what's the point of 1-44 dunking if a guy can't dunk at all under 45? Wouldn't it make more sense that 0=no dunks at all, 1=lowest dunking ability (but still able to dunk)? I mean, what does 1-44 do? Does it have anything to do with layups?

# 189 ojandpizza @ 08/30/12 11:28 PM

I don't think you have to be a 45 to dunk.. Seems like I've dunked with much lower before because the vertical rating was sky high.. I might be wrong though

# 190 2_headedmonster @ 08/30/12 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts18


	What exactly does League Leaders have to do with attribute assignments? Attributes are qualities. Skills. Grades for ability. League Leaders is simply a yearly ranking of said abilities. Really a horrible reference point. Again I ask, if a career 42% 3PT shooter has 1 bad year and shoots 33%, should he be rated the same as someone who is a career 33% 3PT shooter who also happens to be shooting 33%? I think not. That really makes no sense.

If attempts between the two are The same....yes. A player should not be gifted a rating. if they were simply in a slump, they will improve and so will their rating.

# 191 youALREADYknow @ 08/31/12 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 2_headedmonster


	If attempts between the two are The same....yes. A player should not be gifted a rating. if they were simply in a slump, they will improve and so will their rating.

By your logic, Amare Stoudemire deserves Mid and Close ratings in the 60's in 2K12 (as of today) despite shooting well over 40% from those ranges in every single other season of his career.

I'll leave it at that...

# 192 Colts18 @ 08/31/12 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ojandpizza


	I don't think you have to be a 45 to dunk.. Seems like I've dunked with much lower before because the vertical rating was sky high.. I might be wrong though

Yea you are wrong. Vertical doesn't matter. 45 is the min.

# 193 JwP23 @ 08/31/12 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by youvalss


	Question to you attribute-heads: what's the point of 1-44 dunking if a guy can't dunk at all under 45? Wouldn't it make more sense that 0=no dunks at all, 1=lowest dunking ability (but still able to dunk)? I mean, what does 1-44 do? Does it have anything to do with layups?

Yeah, this is what I was wondering as well. It seems like 1 through 44 are meaningless. 2K should solve this issue.

# 194 ojandpizza @ 08/31/12 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts18


	Yea you are wrong. Vertical doesn't matter. 45 is the min.

No vertical does matter, a player with 0 vertical cannot dunk

# 195 youvalss @ 08/31/12 08:24 PM

I think it would make more sense if 1 was really low dunking with many missed dunks and no ability to perform anything other than the simplest one-handed jam. I'd love to see a player with 1 (0=no dunks, 1=lowest dunking ability) failing on many dunks (sometimes not getting high enough), yet able to actually go into dunking "mode".

But that would probably take a lot of motion capture. But missing dunks is part of the game, and there are many different scenarios (and animations) for missed dunks. I wonder if 2K ever captures all this.

# 196 Genocide3883 @ 08/31/12 08:40 PM

I read on another forum that Melo doesn't have the clutch skill, WTF kind of bs is this?

# 197 LD2k @ 08/31/12 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by iLLosophy


	Kobe does a better job of telling his teammates "Give me the ____ing ball" when the game is on the line vs Durant who'll just wait on the 3pt line with hands up while Westbrook tries to And1 three defenders. Does that count?

# 198 Colts18 @ 09/01/12 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ojandpizza


	No vertical does matter, a player with 0 vertical cannot dunk

First of all there is no 0 rating.

Secondly, you are wrong.

Go to 2K12, put Blakes vertical at 25 and keep his dunk rating where it is and tell me with an honest face that he isn't dunking.

Again, vertical doesn't matter.

# 199 Vni @ 09/02/12 03:11 AM

Kobe and Melo aren't even on the same level.

# 200 Belly_of_a_Whale @ 09/02/12 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BegBy


	If you don't think Kobe or Melo are elite players then you either know something the rest of the basketball world doesn't, or you're not firing on all cylinders. I couldn't dislike an athlete more than I do Melo. I'm fully aware of his shortcomings, believe me as I love to point them out each and every time he is on the court and I'm watching. Regardless of that, dude can play ball. SG3/Tapatalk 2

It all depends on what one considers "ELITE". Do I think Melo is one of the top 15 players currently in the NBA? Sure. Do I think Melo is on the level with all-time players such as Jordan, Bird, Magic, etc? Not even close. I would not put Melo on a list of the top 50 players of all-time, but he is still a great player. Elite? In my mind, I put him in the 2nd tier of current superstars. He's just not quite on the level of LeBron, Wade, Durant, Paul, Howard, etc.

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