03:35 PM - June 23, 2012 by Str0mTropperMadden NFL 13 News Post
03:35 PM - June 23, 2012 by Str0mTropperMadden NFL 13 Videos
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I absolutely love Deion hahaha
"Have you ever seen me miss a tackle?!?!"
"Have you ever seen me miss a tackle?!?!"
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Playmakers @ 06/23/12 08:44 PM
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it's PRIMETIME!!
The BCV and Punt Return ratings won't even play a role in determining his overall.
Now just because his overall wouldn't be a 99 doesn't mean he wouldn't be the most effective man cover DB in the game.
I just prefer to make these players play to true tendencies on the field and not worry about their overall rating as much.
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blklightning @ 06/23/12 09:03 PM
He should be a 100 overall. I think Aikman should only be in the low 90s. Irvin should be a 99 and Emmitt should maybe be a 95 since he isn't one of the most physically gifted backs there ever was.
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kalimmortal @ 06/26/12 02:23 PM
deion tackled... he just wasn't a big hitter...
so i woulda made his tackle rating comparable to the average DB but make his Hit Power rating really low...
so i woulda made his tackle rating comparable to the average DB but make his Hit Power rating really low...
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Lieutenant Dan @ 06/26/12 03:52 PM
Deion is great. He's as much an expert showman and entertainer as Freddie Mercury was in rock music, with both being amazing talents at their professions. Both men also have/had 'stage personas', like Deion when he's in his 'Prime Time' mode and Freddie when he was onstage as compared to how quiet he was offstage.
Deion always makes me laugh, or at the least smile lol. I enjoy watching him on NFL Network and getting his take on things. The Madden clip above was really amusing.
Deion always makes me laugh, or at the least smile lol. I enjoy watching him on NFL Network and getting his take on things. The Madden clip above was really amusing.
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Playmakers @ 06/26/12 03:53 PM
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Those two ratings are like huge increases towards the overall rating. I'm pretty sure unless you give him 90+ speed and acceleration he can't possibly reach 99 overall.
I'm a huge Cowboys fan aswell but i think some of you guys are simply just giving out a 99 overall ratings for the hell of it.
This is the reason why EA does it because they know there are more Madden fans who prefer high extreme arcade type ratings and those that don't are in the miniority.
And yes there are several types of ratings in Madden when set above 90 leads to ARCADE type of movement and results on the field.
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Playmakers @ 06/26/12 03:58 PM
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Speed, Quickness, Catching and Awareness....
He should not be a 99 or 100 overall player plain and simple. Now again that doesn't mean he can't be rated properly to be the most effective cover corner in the game.
I think you guys are using the overall rating to judge a players ability and tendencies on the field which is WRONG IMO.
Also if Deion was a WR do you honestly think he would have 89 catch ability?
DB's in Madden can pick off a high number of passes without even being rated in the 80's for catching ability.
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Str0mTropper @ 06/26/12 11:44 PM
I hope they added this too, you can't have Prime without it.
I know it's a long shot but would be nice.
I know it's a long shot but would be nice.
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juggalotusx @ 06/27/12 02:19 AM
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Playmakers @ 06/27/12 03:14 PM
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I know he had the knee injury the following year but he came out of college running a sub 4.5.
but i could be wrong maybe Madden translates a 4.5 out to be 90+ speed in the game.
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BTownSlinger @ 07/04/12 02:07 AM
Prime should be 100 OVR just because he's the coolest dude to ever suit up.
Love Deion. I need to find me a Sanders throwback..
Love Deion. I need to find me a Sanders throwback..
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That probably would be an average type production and I don't remember any knock on him dropping passes.
Also, considering when teams used to (stupidly) challenge him, he picked off a LOT of passes. This was mostly in ATL before he got his "don't throw his way" reputation.
So I think mid to high 80's is fair. 85 or so is pretty much C+ for a WR given how the ratings in M12 go, so, assuming the same in M13, 85 is A/A+ for a DB (never seen one with a 90). That sounds right.
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Guys with 60 CTH can pick off passes, but can they pick off passes from high AWR and accuracy QBs if they make a mistake and throw it "right to him"? The difference between a 60 and an 80 could, and I feel is, that very difference. 60, ball bounces off, 80, can still make the pick.
in the video look like everyone else was running in sand. Who would win a footrace? A young Deion or Chris Johnson?
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I have to disagree. All players run the 40 in similar conditions in regards to clothing these days, so using that as a reason to disregard them seems like a logical fallacy to me. If "player A" runs in shorts for the same distance in similar conditions as any given "player B", then the times over that distance can be used to differentiate velocity (d/t) between players. I realize that the game is more about short space agility and sudden burst/reaction as well as an infinite amount of technical skills, but to say that 40 times are garbage seems a bit harsh to me.
For every player who was great while running an average 40 time (Rice's 4.59 and Smith's 4.60) there are thousands of players who graduate every year who don't even have that speed and athletic ability to make it in the NFL or any other professional football league.
Rice and Smith were able to overcome average overall speed by having great instincts, vision, burst, and agility in the open field. Having those abilities trumps overall speed IMO. In fact, Devin Hester only posted a 4.35 at his pro day in 2006 and a 4.42 at the combine, yet, he has the ability to take a punt the distance on any given play. Why? Because he has elite vision. Watch some of his returns. He usually makes one cut and goes. He is able to see the blocks develop and find a crease in the kick coverage...then...exploit it. He was never worthy of a 100 SPD rating as EA erroneously gave him in my humble opinion. However, his BCV and JKM ratings should be off the chart. I think too often casual fans confuse more intricate abilities with overall speed.
Heck, even in the Super Bowl in 2007, Hester was ran down by Matt Giordano of the Colts on the opening kickoff and he only ran a 4.48. Yet, Hester was able to get into the end zone before he could be caught (and that's even after Giordano had to run downfield, disengage a block, and weave through the trash before getting an open field shot to run him down).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVT91mNMS8A
Madden does not currently do a good job of differentiating between skills. Basically, if a guy is fast, they boost his SPD, AGI, ACC, JKM, and SPM, when in reality a guy may be fast in a straight line but can't cut for beans. The opposite holds true as well (see Jerry Rice; not great overall SPD, but amazing ACC and open field agility). This is something that needs to be better represented all while utilizing some of the measurable standards. I guess I ask this. If the 40 times and testing results were not important, why would the NFL coaches and scouts waste their precious time in the offseason on going to the pro days and combines aside from simply meeting with the players?
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