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OS Roundtable: What do you think of Cheatgate MLB 2K12?

01:44 PM - May 9, 2012 by RaychelSnr

Recently there has been a discovery on how players cheated to win MLB 2K12's Perfect Pitch Challenge. Multiple users found a way to swap out the best hitters in a team's lineup and replace them with the weak links. Unfortunately for the ones who won a perfect game legitimately are screwed, and 2K has made a statement that nothing is going to change.

Here's the OS staff's opinions on the matter...

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# 21 Heroesandvillains @ 05/12/12 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CPRoark


	I'm completely in agreement with you (and others) on the end result. Beating the Red Sox with their line-up intact should score higher than one without their stars. Let me throw out another hypothetical, one that actually grounded a little in reality. When I was a kid, Topps release "Gold Cards," which were premium cards with fancy embossing and extra glossiness. One year, each pack had a scratch off ticket. It was a picture of the field, with a scratch-off at each of the bases. If I recall, the goal of the game was to find three matching symbols before your scratched off the one that was different. If you did, you won whatever prize was under another scratch off field. Pretty much like an instant lottery ticket. Anyway, some kid on my bus found out that by holding a flashlight against the back of the card it became easy to see the differing symbol. Suddenly, everyone was winning the prizes (which I think were mostly free packs of cards). Suppose a company ran a similar contest today, with higher stakes...say, $1,000,000. And, by accident, you find that holding the ticket up to light reveals the matching symbols. Would you do it? I suppose an ethics professor would suggest that the morally correct thing to do would be to abstain from entering the contest, since you had discovered a loophole not covered in the rules. You aren't defacing the ticket or being fraudulent. You just stumbled upon a method for winning that was stupidly unforeseen by the company. I would suggest that the majority of people would enter anyway. Again, I'm sort of playing devil's advocate here, and think that those players who tweaked line-ups should be ranked lower than those who didn't. But in the end, it comes down to 2K's screw up. I think when this much money is on the line, "spirit of the rules" becomes too vague to trust.

This is a wonderful comparison; it virtually mirrors the situation at hand.

Ahhh...the mountainous 'what if's!!!!' I think it says a lot about my moral compass when I hesitate to predict my hypothetical actions when the prize changes from a free pack of cards to a $1,000,000 cash mattress.

And yes, if I ever won a cool million, night one I'd sleep on it. That was not an iTouch predicative dictionary typo. I meant mattress when I said it.

Though, when I really analyze this, I can't justify the flashlight trick being any different than knowing an ex-Topps employee, one that used to work in the printing section, TELLING me the patterns in which to scratch the lottery ticket in.

Or is it different? Perhaps maybe it is...

Ugh, I'll be hypothesizing all day long now about this, and what it would be like NOT to be broke in the process.

Thanks. Thanks a lot!!!!!

# 22 Heroesandvillains @ 05/12/12 04:03 PM

Here's a question:

How do you think 2K would have reacted if one of the 8 finalists, after flying out to the event, held a press conference to announce he or she was stepping out of the competition until the scores were recalculated? On the grounds that they would feel cheated if they somehow managed to win, knowing deep down inside they weren't actually playing the "best of the best."

Do you think that kind of pressure/public ridicule would have forced 2K's hand into addressing this matter? You know, an actual finalist demanding a recount in a very public forum?

# 23 fakeimmigrant @ 05/15/12 03:31 PM

If only this story got more traction on other sites, it might have resulted in 2K doing more or reacting accordingly.

# 24 Sportsflibs @ 05/22/12 04:24 AM

20+ years of video game competition experience - that is how I know that only live events have integrity. It's frustrating to sit on the sidelines while companies like 2K Sports repeat the same mistakes over and over and over.

# 25 Sportsflibs @ 05/22/12 04:26 AM

There's an element of this nobody has mentioned. There is no way to verify identity in an online tournament. When part of the prize is a trip, especially when that trip includes a shot at big money, people might play for other people.

ID's and passwords verify an account, not a person holding a controller.

# 26 videlsports @ 05/26/12 08:54 AM

They should not have the contest for 1 million dollers, when they could use that money for developing games. I'm happy for the people that got their lives changed, but 2k stopped producing baseball now.

# 27 JoeRyan33 @ 05/27/12 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Aggies67


	What if you cheated, and the person you beat out needed the money more than you?

No one needs the money more than me.

# 28 Herky @ 05/31/12 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by videlsports


	They should not have the contest for 1 million dollers, when they could use that money for developing games. I'm happy for the people that got their lives changed, but 2k stopped producing baseball now.

I totally agree. The contest was cool at first but considering the fact that 2K is probably done with baseball games, it's pretty silly they did these contests.

Maybe with the extra money they could have done better with cyberfaces, and allowed for full player editing at least.

# 29 Yeats @ 05/31/12 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Herky


	I totally agree. The contest was cool at first but considering the fact that 2K is probably done with baseball games, it's pretty silly they did these contests. Maybe with the extra money they could have done better with cyberfaces, and allowed for full player editing at least.

Could have should have, from here on in this post and any others discussing 2K baseball's "potential" will all die a miserable and lonely cyberdeath I'm afraid. Time to bury this sorry corpse and move on.

# 30 chuguman99 @ 06/02/12 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy29


	Well haven't you played sports in your life, weather it be high school college, or whatever level it may be? What's some of the first things the coaches teach you? It's where those grey areas are in the rules and how to exploit them to your advantage over your competitor. It's not cheating it's exploiting the rules to your advantage.

I play baseball, and the first thing my coaches taught me wasn't to "exploit the rules". The first thing my coaches taught me was ho to hit the ball.

# 31 Rob Bec @ 07/06/12 08:33 AM

Are you guys f'n kidding me or you all are just all rich with no cares in the world already???

If all I have to do for a million dollars is switch a lineup IN A DAMN V-I-D-E-O G-A-M-E contest (might I add the rules don't say can't do this) then I'll do it EVERYTIME! I almost cant even believe this is a discussion amongst people who arent millionaires and have familes to take care.

"Spirit of an UNWRITTEN video game rule" vs. being awared $1,000,000 (if you just picked option one then ur the person Im laughing at as I write this)

WOW.

# 32 Yeats @ 07/06/12 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Bec


	Are you guys f'n kidding me or you all are just all rich with no cares in the world already??? If all I have to do for a million dollars is switch a lineup IN A DAMN V-I-D-E-O G-A-M-E contest (might I add the rules don't say can't do this) then I'll do it EVERYTIME! I almost cant even believe this is a discussion amongst people who arent millionaires and have familes to take care. "Spirit of an UNWRITTEN video game rule" vs. being awared $1,000,000 (if you just picked option one then Im ur the person Im laughing at as I write this) WOW.

Nice, you sign up just to troll?

EDIT: Just noticed you got another thread closed after you were warned about calling people babies. Seems like I was correct.

# 33 Rob Bec @ 07/06/12 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeats


	Nice, you sign up just to troll? EDIT: Just noticed you got another thread closed after you were warned about calling people babies. Seems like I was correct.

Really? You considered my post on this contest matter trolling? Wow. You're super sensitive man.

Anyways, I feel like I just added perspective to the conversation by saying:
Not breaking an UNWRITTEN VIDEO GAME RULE vs. Being awarded $1,000,000 doesnt take one second of thought from me on which one I'm going with. And it shouldn't take any thought from any non multi-millionaire with a family to feed.

# 34 PS3rocks09 @ 07/25/12 08:59 PM

only 2k would do this

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