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Kotaku's Owen Good sat down with Mark Little, Senior Producer of MLB 2K12, as they discuss some of the new tools in this years game. Owen also gives his thoughts on whether we will see another 2K Sports baseball game.

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In last year's game, we weren't getting enough of the hit types we usually see in baseball," Little, the game's senior producer, tells me. The designers wanted to introduce more of these kinds of outcomes—early swings on outside pitches that actually pull the ball, inside-out swings and the like—but wanted to be sure they happened with the appropriate frequency. So Little and his lead engineer built this tool, which simulates the outcomes in bulk and helps them refine the game's physics.

Little clicks a button and, with a whooshing sound effect, the screen becomes a spray of arcs, like a fireworks finale caught in mid-explosion. A pitch outside still strongly goes to the opposite field, but with the better contact rating, more go to the center of the diamond and some even to left field.

"We were unhappy with the dice roll," Little says, using the term for the background calculation the game made in determining where and how hard the ball would be hit.

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# 21 DetroitStyle @ 02/17/12 03:35 PM
Honestly, regardless of their improvements I would never spend $60 on this game. You compare the show to the MLB2K in terms of cost-benefit and clearly the show has more content. That's why I think it's perfectly acceptable to spend half price ($29.99) to get MLB 2K on PC.
 
# 22 dolemint @ 02/17/12 06:54 PM
The ultimate irony is if 2K12 is a great, glitch free product with room to grow and the series being cancelled due to exclusivity.

Irony being that the 2K series effectively ended the quality MVP series and we (Xbox users) were stuck with substandard products for so long.

I'd like to see exclusivity end but for the 2K baseball series to continue. It sometimes takes a couple years for developers to get baseball games right, so I'd like a choice between a steady but potentially buggy 2k13 or MVP 13 (or whoever else).

2K gets a lot right, they just seem to fail at play-testing their product for glitches. Competition could make them take their product more seriously, and even a bug-free phoned-in roster update could potentially be better than a new product just starting out.
 
# 23 Pared @ 02/18/12 10:40 AM
What bothers me about this is if you have to claim you're not "phoning it in" then there is a perception that is not necessarily positive about this game.

That speaks volumes to me.
 
# 24 dolemint @ 02/18/12 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Pared
What bothers me about this is if you have to claim you're not "phoning it in" then there is a perception that is not necessarily positive about this game.

That speaks volumes to me.
2K didn't say "We're not phoning it in this year!" The JOURNALIST did, theorizing that as a possibility due to the exclusivity running out and the series losing money. The journalist was perfectly fine in mentioning this, regardless of the series' quality.

But yes, past entries have been phoned in IMO. :-) But I can't see a company blatantly saying that!
 
# 25 Pared @ 02/18/12 11:46 AM
Oh I know that - I'm just saying how often do people have to answer that question when marketing a game?

It has been a topic of conversation and wonder around here as well. That's not usually a good sign. That's all I'm saying.
 
# 26 m1ke_nyc @ 02/18/12 05:41 PM
I hope they continue to make a game, the more the better, just not being the exclusive title on 360.
 
# 27 bigfnjoe96 @ 02/18/12 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bosnian19
are you talking about 2k? im guessing your high when you play it..
I suggest laying off the personal attacks. It could be taken a reason for being banned

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# 28 DetroitStyle @ 02/18/12 09:57 PM
I may be wrong, but I hate how the term "losing money" is thrown around by these companies, when in fact, they're technically making a profit. For example, if they had 25 million in revenue last year for the game and then 15 million this year they'll come out and say they made a 10 million loss which is bogus. They made a 10 million profit, just not as much as last year. Either way the bottom line is showing a net profit. If the bottom line was really a 30 million loss each year than 2K would quite literally be out of business. Make sense?
 
# 29 SoxFan01605 @ 02/18/12 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by M_F_Z
why would 2K Sports/VC continue to make a game that they admitted makes them lose around 30 million dollars per year ?

don't you guys think that if they didn't have to make MLB 2K12 ( they currently have to since they obtained the exclusive license contract ), they wouldn't ? since they're losing money on it and they said they're not into pursuing losses
They said that the game causes them to lose money now. Keep in mind though, that's including the license. If they could make the game without the exclusive license, it's a different story.

I'm not saying they'll decide to make one or not (it might still seem like a losing proposition to them), but the "not into pursuing losses" comment was in regard to renewing the license, not making the game at all.

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Originally Posted by DetroitStyle
I may be wrong, but I hate how the term "losing money" is thrown around by these companies, when in fact, they're technically making a profit. For example, if they had 25 million in revenue last year for the game and then 15 million this year they'll come out and say they made a 10 million loss which is bogus. They made a 10 million profit, just not as much as last year. Either way the bottom line is showing a net profit. If the bottom line was really a 30 million loss each year than 2K would quite literally be out of business. Make sense?

When they talk about losing money, they are talking about on the specific project and how it impacts projected earnings. You can lose money on a specific aspect and still come up in the black overall...it doesn't make the loss of money on that project any more palatable (unless the difference is gigantic) and it doesn't mean that you are not losing money that could be adding to your overall margin.
 
# 30 jr86 @ 02/19/12 05:05 AM
IF there is no exclusive agreement going forward then there is no reason why this series won't continue.
Even if EA were to enter and bring back the MVP series, history dictates that it normally takes a couple of years to iron out bugs and problems before the game becomes good(unless EA have been secretly developing for the last few years waiting for exclusivity to end and hit the ground running...but i would imagine this is highly unlikely).
So for 350 owners as much as gamers would love to see the MVP series back if it is not up to spec then i think most would continue to buy 2k and the next few years could actually be their most profitable yet.
 
# 31 jr86 @ 02/19/12 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bosnian19
thats not a personal attack...
How is calling someone 'high' when they choose to play a particular game NOT a personal attack....
 
# 32 jr86 @ 02/19/12 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bosnian19
did i insult his relgion race family? no
thats a personal attack
Well if you think calling someone a drug user isn't a personal attack then i don't know what to say.......
 
# 33 CMH @ 02/19/12 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bosnian19
you take it the wrong way and go all serious on it
How about we stop talking about it and just move on?

If you don't like the game, don't visit the forum and make snide comments to members who do like the game.
 
# 34 lnin0 @ 02/19/12 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SportsGamingBlake
im a 360 owner, so i cant buy the other game... i enjoy this series though and i dont even want the other game. but i wouldnt mind a 2k13. honestly, with the gap EA would have between baseball games, i really dont think that an mvp 13 would be any better.

just my personal opinion.
Yeah. I don't think another publisher would take up the MLB mantle for 2013. If 2K is out then I wouldn't expect to see anything until the next generation of console launch. I am sure there would be some interest in doing arcade junk with the MLB license but nobody is going to get serious with it until next gen, if ever.

I don't blame 2K - I blame the MLB for watching their sport die and not trying to do a damn thing to save it.
 
# 35 dolemint @ 02/19/12 10:01 PM
Sports games are complicated to program so I doubt any publisher would be able to step up and create a quality product for 2013... Especially since no publisher seems to have any idea if they'll even be able to make one.

If someone else scoops up the exclusive contract, us players could end up facing the same situation (a publisher who can't get the fundamentals right).

I'd like to see 2K continue with MLB 2K13 but without exclusivity. Without the high cost of that deal, it would make sense for them to continue. To put it bluntly, they could just roster update with minimal effort and still achieve profit with no competition.

Plus, the 2K series does do a lot right. The games just need polish and need to be bug free on release day. If they actually had play tested thoroughly, I would have been happy with 2K11. So, I'd hate to lose the series because of the same scenario that made us lose the MVP series in the first place.
 

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