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Madden's Forgettable Five Over Seventy-Five

12:38 PM - November 23, 2011 by RaychelSnr

While there are plenty of overlooked players rated under 75 who can be studs in Madden 12, there are just as many duds rated over 75.

These are the guys who you think should be solid contributors on your team, but who end up dragging your cyber squad down.

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# 21 Reys @ 11/25/11 01:58 PM

Dang, why all the hate for the Buccs?

# 22 thegregwitul @ 11/25/11 08:29 PM

Blount is a monster in Madden. For what he's rated (and he is underrated for sure), he can carry the load for any team.

# 23 havokeff @ 11/25/11 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JaySmooov


	I agree with everything you mentioned, EXCEPT for the Fitz opinion. For you to criticize the guy for "not knowing football" you've seemed to miss on this point.

I missed no point.
I understand fully what Fitzgerald can do as a receiver.

However, unless you are arguing that the author of this article has a different definition of Deep Threat, than pretty much every knowledgeable football fan, then you are just babbling for no apparent reason.

I mean, I even said he is in the mold of Rice and CHRIS CARTER, who you go on to mention in your next paragraph. Please read and take a deep breath next time, before you think someone is insulting your favorite receiver.

And just to rebuttal here a bit.

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	QBs don't just chuck it and pray;

Dante Cullpepper with Randy Moss.

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	part of the reason Randy Moss had that 23 TD season was because Tom Brady is an extraordinary deep ball passer.

Really? How have those deep passes been working out since that year, after Randy lost a very noticeable few steps, and hasn't been on the team?

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	Aaron Rodgers is having the year he's having because of his ability to throw it to SPOTS downfield to allow the WRs to go get them.

This has nothing to do with your point as most of Rogers throws are to the back shoulder, and not up high for the receivers to have to go up and get, and are shorter throws that the receivers take the distance. You are getting into a totally different argument about passing control in the game, or the lack thereof.

# 24 Bellsprout @ 11/25/11 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by oneamongthefence


	For me it James Jones. Doesn't really have any particular skill set worth keeping for. Not really fast. Doesn't really have an deep ball skills. His route running is meh. On a receiving corps of very talented recievers, he's the weakest link. IMO

Sounds like real life. Who says Madden isn't sim?

# 25 TheShizNo1 @ 11/25/11 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HurtfulScroll1234


	Since when does football knowledge have anything to do with Madden? The writer is reflecting that in the article. I agree with everything but Blount. Have any of you played with the Williamses or Barber and Merinam? They suckk. Players rated over 75 should be able to do multiple things, not just okay zone, catch s pasx and fall down or rush the passed. That's the point they are rated too highly for their skill set, thus overrated.

Matter of fact, I use the Bucs in an online Franchise. None of those players suck when used correctly.

WR Mike Williams: I hardly every send him on any deep routes. Unless I see press by a weak corner. I'll send him deep seeing if he can beat it. Usually slants, drags, outs. He's a fade machine also.

HB Blount: keep him inside the tackles and he's positive yards every carry and falls forward.

CB Ronder Barber: his MCV and Spd rating tell you all you need to know. I kept him in short zones. When I did that, I had success w/ him.

Knowing how these attributes translate to the game is the key.

# 26 HurtfulScroll1234 @ 11/26/11 04:01 AM

Yeah. I don't know what this guy was thinking even mentioning Blount ... but the Williamses are accurate. I've played enough with the Bucs that I drew tired of Williams dropping passes left and right. I haven't played much with Seattle, but they seem like the same. And Barber ... you can't play Cover 2 the whole game. My buddy just takes advantage of Barber wah to much when I have to come outta the cover 2. I'm gonna try moving Barber to FS like the writer suggests. C'mon man, though, Blount?

# 27 Pretentious Username @ 11/26/11 10:01 AM

I had a franchise using Seattle, and Mike Williams was the only bright spot offensively. Sidney Rice seemed to get injured at some point in every game, and with Williams in the slot I was at least able to keep the games competitive.

# 28 TheShizNo1 @ 11/26/11 11:07 AM

I've had more trouble w/ Benn that Williams w/ the Bucs.

As far as Ronde Barber, of course you don't stay in cover 2. Cover 3 cloud, flip him or the play so he's in the short zone. Cover 6, same thing. Any zone blitz usually has a corner in a short zone. All about knowing your team.

# 29 KBLover @ 11/26/11 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheShizNo1


	I've had more trouble w/ Benn that Williams w/ the Bucs.

Same here. Benn struggles for me. He works better in the slot since I drafted a better #2 guy to go with Williams.

Williams is still my go to guy (and actually earned that role and offensive playmaker) for me after the year it was basically him and Blount as my offense.

# 30 MrKasoogi @ 11/26/11 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DerkontheOS


	Wow..... We have to start making people take an english test before that are allowed to post here.

Credibility=Lost
Sorry, but make sure to not exemplify what you are insulting when you insult something.

# 31 Az2k12 @ 11/27/11 09:57 PM

Mike Williams and LeGarette Blount both progress to 90+ over like 2 seasons. Mike just drops a few balls his first year and Blount is slow. Bad list

# 32 Juggernaut55 @ 11/27/11 10:22 PM

1st, Lagerrette Blount dominates on madden, you just have to use him right...and thats running to the right behind Trueblood (90+ RBK) and Davin Joseph (95 RBK) also putting Benn on that side helps a lot because he's one of the top Run Blocking WR's....Joseph and Trueblood always get their man and usually get up into the second level and once its just the Safety Blount goes ape ish all over them

# 33 oneamongthefence @ 11/27/11 11:38 PM

Maybe Bob Sanders. I don't know how he is since he's injured All THE TIME.

# 34 bfindeisen @ 11/29/11 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by havokeff


	Reading this list, it looks like Master Chief Syndrom creeping in. "Why can't I make that throw?! I should be able to make that throw!!!" The ratings in Madden, like or dislike, force you to play up to them. Reggie Bush is a perimeter runner. His tackle breaking is low, his BCV is low, his carrying is low. Therefore, he shouldn't be running between the tackles trying to find holes against guys with 80-99 tackling. He needs to be outside running in open space where BCV isn't as important an tacklers are in the 50-79 range and he has less chance of fumbling. This article IMO reflect the general lack of knowing football that 90% of players have. "Ronde Barber gets beat deep and in man to man". No crap Sherlock. He is a Cover Two corner, but it sounds like the writer of this has no idea what that means. "Shawn Merriman can only rush the passer." Yeah... AND? That is what Shawn Merriman has always been. A Pass rush specialist. He is 90% of the time the blitzing LB in a 3-4. If the author understood defenses, he would understand THAT. "Kolb can't pass deep. Larry Fitzgerald needs a deep passer." WHAT?! Fitz is an AMAZING reciever, but he is not a "deep threat" receiver. He is like Jerry Rice and Chris Carter. He catches short to medium passes and takes them the distance. Yes, he can catch the occasional deep ball, but it is not his game. "Mike Williams is slow and not elusive." POSSESSION RECEIVER. Does this author realize that not every receiver in the NFL is DeSean Jackson? This article is pathetic and illustrates the contradicting personality of the majority of the Madden "Community" and the fact that when presented WITH realism, they can't handle it because they don't understand football. "I WANT REALISM. I WANT THE NFL ON MY XBOX!!" "OMG!!! RONDE BARBER CAN'T MAN UP ON ANDRE JOHNSON!! HE SUCKS!! HOW IS HE AN 85?!?!" El oh el.

What havokeff said exactly! Please learn the game of football.

# 35 bfindeisen @ 11/29/11 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HurtfulScroll1234


	Since when does football knowledge have anything to do with Madden? The writer is reflecting that in the article. I agree with everything but Blount. Have any of you played with the Williamses or Barber and Merinam? They suckk. Players rated over 75 should be able to do multiple things, not just okay zone, catch s pasx and fall down or rush the passed. That's the point they are rated too highly for their skill set, thus overrated.

Ugh. This guy seems like the epitome of what ruins Madden for me...

# 36 mpbaseball22 @ 11/29/11 05:05 PM

Hes not saying there not good in the NFL hes just saying they dont play up to there overall

# 37 DahBigBadWolf @ 12/29/11 03:38 AM

But I thought ratings didn't matter in madden, just the speed?

# 38 over9000yards @ 12/29/11 02:29 PM

The Law Firm and LeGarrette Blount are so underated for running backs that it's rediculous. IMO, both should be 85-89 ovr.

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