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Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Cleveland Browns and Pittsburgh Steelers

06:48 AM - August 8, 2011 by Steve_OS

ESPN The Gamer has posted the Madden NFL 12 player ratings for the Cleveland Browns and Pittsburgh Steelers.

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# 21 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 08/08/11 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by angels eclipse7


	Cribbs at 79 is an absolute joke. 23 catches, 293 yards and 1 TD. What about that makes EA think that he is deserves an overall rating of a starting receiver? I would say rate him 65. No higher.

Dude. He is rated as a horrible WR in this game. His catching and route running are both in the 60's I believe. The only thing he's good at in the game is returns and after the catch.

# 22 angels eclipse7 @ 08/08/11 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy


	Dude. He is rated as a horrible WR in this game. His catching and route running are both in the 60's I believe. The only thing he's good at in the game is returns and after the catch.

Still, that rating is supposed to be representative of his overall receiving abilities and you cannot argue that he is the best receiver on the Browns. 79 is not representative of his overall contributions to the team, but is representative of his receiver rating. They can make the dude fast and a great returner without making him a decent receiver.

# 23 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 08/08/11 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by angels eclipse7


	Still, that rating is supposed to be representative of his overall receiving abilities and you cannot argue that he is the best receiver on the Browns. 79 is not representative of his overall contributions to the team, but is representative of his receiver rating. They can make the dude fast and a great returner without making him a decent receiver.

It's representative of his overall abilities as an NFL player. He's one of the best return men in the NFL and is excellent after the catch. However, he just isn't a good WR, as shown by his ratings. If anything, the complaint should be about the formula used to arrive at the overall rating, but Cribbs actual ratings are pretty much right where they should be; his overall is just way too high for a WR.

Edit: And he is not rated as a decent wide receiver at all. The only guy on his team with worse hands at WR is the 53 overall guy. The only guy on the Patriots with better hands is their 52 overall WR. Nobody on the Jets has worse hands. The only guys on the Dolphins with worse hands are a 52 and 48 overall WR. The only guy on the Bills with worse hands is their 60 overall WR. His route running is equally as bad. His spectacular catch is equally as bad. And his catching in traffic is slightly better but still bad. Where in there does it sound like he's a pretty decent WR?

# 24 pittsburgher86 @ 08/08/11 03:35 PM

Mike Wallace= 90 overall
Emmanuel Sanders = about 77 overall
Antonio Brown = Low to mid 70's overall
Rashard Mendenhall = 90 overall
Issac Redman = Low to mid 70's overall
Mewelde Moore left off roster (wrong, he is still on the team)
Baron Batch = High 60's overall
Byron Leftwich is better than Charlie Batch
The O-Line started improving last year and there was no love there.
Bryant McFadden = 80 overall
William Gay = 74 to 77 overall

Oh and Payton Hillis will never be better than Mendenhall EVER.

# 25 at23steelers @ 08/08/11 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kwabalicious


	A few things that jump out at me: Hines Ward is still and 86 (too high), Emmanuel Sanders only a 70. Big Ben 94 throw power and 89 throw accuracy and 94 overall?! Field day! I expected around a 91ish. Wow Timmons is so much better than Farrior, so how is Farrior a 91? I had Farrior at 80-83 range. Stevenson Sylvester is only an 57 overall, I can't wait to see that rise throughout the course of the season. Ike Taylor finally gets recognition for his speed at 95. Keenan Lewis and Crezdon Butler only a 59 and 58 respectively. Hopefully those will rise throughout the course of the season as well.

I understand where you're coming from with your ratings, but Donny is doing what they are currently. Ward, while declining, is still our most dependable WR. A lot of people said Farrior had one of his better years last year. While Sylvester and Sanders will make big leaps this season, they are accurate in terms of where they are now. I respect your ratings Kwab, but they seem to predict what they will be after this season (Sanders and Sylvester breaking out while Farrior and Ward decline) but nothing so far shows why his ratings aren't what they actually should be.

# 26 LambertandHam @ 08/08/11 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by at23steelers


	I understand where you're coming from with your ratings, but Donny is doing what they are currently. Ward, while declining, is still our most dependable WR. A lot of people said Farrior had one of his better years last year. While Sylvester and Sanders will make big leaps this season, they are accurate in terms of where they are now. I respect your ratings Kwab, but they seem to predict what they will be after this season (Sanders and Sylvester breaking out while Farrior and Ward decline) but nothing so far shows why his ratings aren't what they actually should be.

People forget that Farrior puts up 100+ tackle seasons like clockwork.

Sanders has major durability concerns right now with his foot.

# 27 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 08/08/11 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambert&Ham


	People forget that Farrior puts up 100+ tackle seasons like clockwork. Sanders has major durability concerns right now with his foot.

I would still think after last year that Timmons would now be the higher rated of the two, especially when you factor in that he's coming into his prime while Farrior is on the decline.

# 28 LambertandHam @ 08/08/11 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy


	I would still think after last year that Timmons would now be the higher rated of the two, especially when you factor in that he's coming into his prime while Farrior is on the decline.

Farrior is still a constant performer in that defense. Timmons exploded last year, and is Farrior's heir apparent, if not already.

Maybe it's me, but sometimes I look at default Madden ratings and think they might have the "it'll fix itself when they progress" mindset.

# 29 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 08/08/11 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambert&Ham


	Farrior is still a constant performer in that defense. Timmons exploded last year, and is Farrior's heir apparent, if not already. Maybe it's me, but sometimes I look at default Madden ratings and think they might have the "it'll fix itself when they progress" mindset.

That's true. I just hope that's the case rather than "it'll break itself when they progress" lol. I honestly think the progression will be alright though. Progression is tough to nail in sports games.

# 30 angels eclipse7 @ 08/08/11 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy


	It's representative of his overall abilities as an NFL player. He's one of the best return men in the NFL and is excellent after the catch. However, he just isn't a good WR, as shown by his ratings. If anything, the complaint should be about the formula used to arrive at the overall rating, but Cribbs actual ratings are pretty much right where they should be; his overall is just way too high for a WR. Edit: And he is not rated as a decent wide receiver at all. The only guy on his team with worse hands at WR is the 53 overall guy. The only guy on the Patriots with better hands is their 52 overall WR. Nobody on the Jets has worse hands. The only guys on the Dolphins with worse hands are a 52 and 48 overall WR. The only guy on the Bills with worse hands is their 60 overall WR. His route running is equally as bad. His spectacular catch is equally as bad. And his catching in traffic is slightly better but still bad. Where in there does it sound like he's a pretty decent WR?

It's not a representation of his overall player value... just receiver. Otherwise, if you moved him to lets say quarterback, his rating wouldn't drop because the rating would represent him as an overall NFL player.

I hear you about maybe the formula is just messed up. I just think that a 79 overall rating for Cribbs is rediculous

Edit: I still think his individual catch attributes are too high. The fact that 69 catching is a practice squad guy just shows that they need to stretch the ratings out even more have NFL starting receivers play way ahead of practice squad type of guys or guys like Cribbs. I still feel like Cribbs is a much bigger threat in Madden than in real life at receiver. In a Madden franchise, Cribbs should only be getting 1-2 catches a game, 18 yards a game, and 1 touchdown every year at the most. I find it really unlikely that 79 rated Cribbs is only going to put up those kind of stats in Madden.

# 31 illwill10 @ 08/08/11 06:17 PM

Steelers will make it hard to move the ball on. 6 of the front 7 are 90+ and the other one is 88

# 32 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 08/08/11 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by angels eclipse7


	It's not a representation of his overall player value... just receiver. Otherwise, if you moved him to lets say quarterback, his rating wouldn't drop because the rating would represent him as an overall NFL player. I hear you about maybe the formula is just messed up. I just think that a 79 overall rating for Cribbs is rediculous Edit: I still think his individual catch attributes are too high. The fact that 69 catching is a practice squad guy just shows that they need to stretch the ratings out even more have NFL starting receivers play way ahead of practice squad type of guys or guys like Cribbs. I still feel like Cribbs is a much bigger threat in Madden than in real life at receiver. In a Madden franchise, Cribbs should only be getting 1-2 catches a game, 18 yards a game, and 1 touchdown every year at the most. I find it really unlikely that 79 rated Cribbs is only going to put up those kind of stats in Madden.

So the problem is really about how EA rates players, not about Cribbs' rating. Cribbs' rating is relatively good. You just think the whole rating system is flawed.

# 33 angels eclipse7 @ 08/08/11 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy


	So the problem is really about how EA rates players, not about Cribbs' rating. Cribbs' rating is relatively good. You just think the whole rating system is flawed.

It's not that the whole rating system is flawed as it just needs to be stretched out. But on top of that, having Cribbs rated 79 is like EA saying he is a better receiver than anybody 78- and that just isn't the case.

# 34 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 08/08/11 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by angels eclipse7


	It's not that the whole rating system is flawed as it just needs to be stretched out. But on top of that, having Cribbs rated 79 is like EA saying he is a better receiver than anybody 78- and that just isn't the case.

So then you disagree with the way the overall number is arrived at.

# 35 angels eclipse7 @ 08/08/11 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy


	So then you disagree with the way the overall number is arrived at.

I guess. But I would still just lower Cribbs ratings to make him lower even with the current formula.

# 36 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 08/08/11 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by angels eclipse7


	I guess. But I would still just lower Cribbs ratings to make him lower even with the current formula.

If you were to do that, then his WR skills would be worse than most practice squad players.

# 37 abjsuperstar @ 08/08/11 10:15 PM

wont be playing pitt..

# 38 sydrogerdavid @ 08/08/11 11:50 PM

Where is Mewelde Moore?

What is Baron Batch's blocking ability? (If he, a rookie, can block James Harrison, than he must be good.)

Bronco Legursky should be a 99. hehe

Chris Kemouatu is our second best lineman, better than Flozell Adams, yet on Madden he is worse than Flozell and is a 75.

I do like how the 4 linebackers are all 90+.

# 39 angels eclipse7 @ 08/09/11 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy


	If you were to do that, then his WR skills would be worse than most practice squad players.

IDK about that. Running backs with 65 catching seem to catch the ball most of the time.

# 40 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 08/09/11 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by angels eclipse7


	IDK about that. Running backs with 65 catching seem to catch the ball most of the time.

His catching ability would be worse than most practice squad WRs.

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