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NBA 2K12 Should Get Redunkulous (IGN)

03:19 PM - February 20, 2011 by wrestlinggod1

IGN has posted an interesting article on how to implement NBA All-Star weekend, into NBA 2K12. More specifically, the dunk contest.

What about you? Have any ideas?

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	"The challenge is finding a way to enable gamers to tap into the creativity seen in the dunk contest. My suggestion: Turn the dunk contest into a strategy game. Rather than controlling the player during the dunk contest, instead have gamers plan out the dunk in detail. You set where the player starts, how they receive the ball, the path to the basket, whatever combination of dunks to pull off. Add a teammate? Sure. Place them on the court and select how they interact (there really are only a few ways they can be involved, right?). Provide a large selection of props � let the fans tell 2K in advance what they want in the game � and give them the ability to place and use them as needed. You are the choreographer. Every dunker has a rating and every dunk design has a difficulty level, which increases as you add in more complexity to the slam. As the difficulty rating rises towards equaling the dunker's rating, the chances for success diminish. The safer the dunk, the more likely the execution will be perfect. But safe doesn't win dunk contests. Can you find the balance between the right level of difficulty and your dunker's prowess?"

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# 21 Freak123 @ 02/21/11 01:39 AM

Yeah, NBA Live 10 had the dunk contest and 3-point shootout, and I really want each in NBA 2K11 as I find myself wanting to participate in the All-Star activities as All-Star Weekend progresses in real life. Would be fun to see it as described by the OP, I would rather choreograph than actually do it as I always find myself sucking at dunk contests no matter how much I practice.

# 22 manustyle90 @ 02/21/11 10:20 AM

you all want 2k to focus only on gameplay but if I remember well you were very excited about the new jordan challenge stuff right? do you think it would be that hard to move 2 (already made) game modes from the useless blacktop mode to the association?

# 23 kareem434 @ 02/21/11 11:43 AM

There was some kind of dunk creator in one game cant remember which one but they coul do that for sure and that would improve the dunk contest. they need to bring the 3 point contest in two and even the shooting stars that would be fluff but nice.

TO IMPROVE GREATLY WOULD BE TO SWITCH UP VENUES AND JERSEYS DURING YOUR CAREER SO ITS NOT ALWAYS THE SAME ALL STAR GAME

# 24 youvalss @ 02/21/11 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kareem434


	There was some kind of dunk creator in one game cant remember which one but they coul do that for sure and that would improve the dunk contest. they need to bring the 3 point contest in two and even the shooting stars that would be fluff but nice. TO IMPROVE GREATLY WOULD BE TO SWITCH UP VENUES AND JERSEYS DURING YOUR CAREER SO ITS NOT ALWAYS THE SAME ALL STAR GAME

I remember there was a dunk creator in NBA Shootout, but it was TERRIBLE!

# 25 CX1329 @ 02/21/11 05:22 PM

I seriously don't understand all the "gameplay first" comments. Would any of you expect a 2K game without Association, Season, NBA Today, My Player and all the other modes that we've come to appreciate? Features are an important part of a video game, and they can work on gameplay realism concomitantly. Realism and game modes aren't two mutually exclusive things, much in the same way that graphics and gameplay aren't mutually exclusive either. Actually, the people in charge of the graphics aren't even the same people who design the gameplay.

Geez, people are acting as if the addition of a simple dunk contest would turn the game into NBA Jam or something.

The mode is already there, even, it just needs to be enhanced. They could recycle many animations and just change the way the mode is played.

# 26 VDusen04 @ 02/21/11 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CX1329


	I seriously don't understand all the "gameplay first" comments. Would any of you expect a 2K game without Association, Season, NBA Today, My Player and all the other modes that we've come to appreciate? Features are an important part of a video game, and they can work on gameplay realism concomitantly. Realism and game modes aren't two mutually exclusive things, much in the same way that graphics and gameplay aren't mutually exclusive either. Actually, the people in charge of the graphics aren't even the same people who design the gameplay. Geez, people are acting as if the addition of a simple dunk contest would turn the game into NBA Jam or something. The mode is already there, even, it just needs to be enhanced. They could recycle many animations and just change the way the mode is played.

Well said. I fully support an improvement to the dunk contest in 2K11. I used to play 2K's dunk contest until it became unplayable. 2K11's forced split screen, one minute-thirty second race is a disaster (with no practice mode to boot). To be fair, I have to assume the Dunk Contest being shrunk down the way it was in 2K11 was a necessary means to create space on the disk, but I don't know this for sure.

However, I don't really care for the idea of turning the Dunk Contest into a strategy mode. I physically want to be able to execute sweet contest dunks. I want to do this in an NBA arena, in front of a crowd holding score placards, a judges table, a camera guy hovering behind me for the chase angle, wearing a jersey of my choice (or my warmup jacket), with the ability to recreate nearly every NBA dunk contest dunk in history alongside new, unperformed ideas (between both legs). Further, I want my dunker to have a two-foot takeoff and one-foot takeoff rating, so I can carve out which potential dunks to attempt based on who's dunking (ex: Jason Richardson won't be attempting any free throw line dunks for me). I also want height and length to play a role, so I am rewarded for not attemting to have Brandon Jennings dunk three basketballs at once.

That's all I'm looking for.

# 27 Westside Poseidon @ 02/22/11 12:02 PM

"Gameplay first" people are the same ones who will turn around and complain about Madden's lack of features and lame presentation.

# 28 AnArtofWar @ 02/22/11 01:19 PM

I love the idea, it would definitely add more to association for that bit of time you are in the all star week...but there are much, much more important things that need to be fixed/added before then.

Association drafting/trading AI still needs to be fixed- to keep it short I want to see busts and such in the draft and see a blockbuster trade every once and a while, all the trades are always small and insignificant and sometimes are head scratchers. Maybe also have a chance for a player to "bust" or breakout on a new team in a trade, like Carter busting and Rashard Lewis breaking out.

My Player is frustrating and needs tuning, I want an offline mode so I can use sliders and the way a player just breaks into the starting line up is annoying as well. I want to see the player work up to the starting line up, not get out of the draft, play one game and end up in the starting line up with a 54 overall and dominate.

Then all of the other stuff can be considered in my mind...I would love to see more in the all star break, especially something so different from the usual play; especially if you are playing an 82 game season in assoc.

# 29 rjb2585 @ 02/22/11 02:47 PM

There are definitely a lot of other things that should be worked on first but if they decide to throw this in there they have to be innovative with it. No button smashing or combinations to pull off dunks. Controls need to feel more natural like they do in the game. Something along the lines of the triggers for L, R, or 2 foot takeoffs with the left stick controlling the body for 180s 360s. Then the right stick controls what you do with the ball using LB and RB as modifiers. I don't know exactly how it would work but controls and scoring are the 2 things they'll need to make it successful.

# 30 nry20 @ 02/22/11 03:11 PM

I see a lot of "They can fix stuff and add new stuff" posts.

No, they can't. I can go through my friends list at any given time and see a minimum of 6 people searching for a match, that's right, just searching, not finding. I can see at least 9 that have 99ovrall legit myplayers that are unable to join pickup games because it freezes on "Joining Game". I can see countless stupid animations, warping, and uncapped illegit players on online mode.

They haven't fixed any of these things since last year, I'm guessing they copy+pasted the code, put in patches they didn't release last year, then called it good.

Instead of adding a mode that you're going to use for 10 minutes and never use again, how about we fix the current gameplay? Thanks.

# 31 wrestlinggod1 @ 02/22/11 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nry20


	I see a lot of "They can fix stuff and add new stuff" posts. No, they can't. I can go through my friends list at any given time and see a minimum of 6 people searching for a match, that's right, just searching, not finding. I can see at least 9 that have 99ovrall legit myplayers that are unable to join pickup games because it freezes on "Joining Game". I can see countless stupid animations, warping, and uncapped illegit players on online mode. They haven't fixed any of these things since last year, I'm guessing they copy+pasted the code, put in patches they didn't release last year, then called it good. Instead of adding a mode that you're going to use for 10 minutes and never use again, how about we fix the current gameplay? Thanks.

Ignorant people like you just need to hush. You guys DO know that there are different departments working on the game? Sheeeesssshhh

# 32 CX1329 @ 02/22/11 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wrestlinggod1


	Ignorant people like you just need to hush. You guys DO know that there are different departments working on the game? Sheeeesssshhh

Precisely. People don't seem to be aware that there are a multitude of people working on the game at any given time, and that they're spread among many departments. 2KXX isn't some obscure indie game that's produced by some dude in his free time.

# 33 VDusen04 @ 02/22/11 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CX1329


	2KXX isn't some obscure indie game that's produced by some dude in his free time.

I'm picturing a gnome working vigorously inside of a tree.

2K Headquarters

# 34 HotSauce3 @ 02/22/11 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gbombbay


	noooooooooo. Dumb idea. This is a perfect example of people with their knee jerk reactions, after seeing something. Just stop, focus on the game like you been doing. My player mode still needs work, 5 on 5 can still get better. Graphics can even get better. Because im sorry MLB The Show sets the standards as far as sports games go right now, and its not even close. and im not even a baseball fan like that. So thats saying something. How often are/would you play a dunk contest any way. You should use your resources on what you will be playing and seeing the most.

you don't know real basketball, they're trying to make 2k better. by adding all-star weekend in the game makes the game more exciting and give us a reasin to buy it,i would also like to have live roster updates for myplayer and association mode.

# 35 gbombbay @ 02/22/11 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HotSauce3


	you don't know real basketball, they're trying to make 2k better. by adding all-star weekend in the game makes the game more exciting and give us a reasin to buy it,i would also like to have live roster updates for myplayer and association mode.

You directing something negative towards me off top lets me know you don't know basketball. I myself have been a fan my whole life. Which is why i know there is still things wrong with game-play that can be fixed first, like player logic in certain game situations. Like i said before MLB The Show sets the standard... Listen im one that plays 2k11 all day so im not tryna say its terrible "cause its not". But before we start doing things like that, lets focus on basketball games not all star weekend. which they have been doing obviously. So they kinda prove my point. they want to make a complete 5 on 5 sim before all the extra stuff that "children" like you want in a game. Im all for implementing a better All Star Weekend in the game like, 3 pt, Slam Dunk. But i rather all hands be on deck for creating the best 5 on 5 sim that they can, including presentation. Then you can afford to make tweeks to game play and focus more on the extra things. ie yes back to that game again, MLB The Show.

# 36 Westside Poseidon @ 02/23/11 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gbombbay


	You directing something negative towards me off top lets me know you don't know basketball. I myself have been a fan my whole life. Which is why i know there is still things wrong with game-play that can be fixed first, like player logic in certain game situations. Like i said before MLB The Show sets the standard... Listen im one that plays 2k11 all day so im not tryna say its terrible "cause its not". But before we start doing things like that, lets focus on basketball games not all star weekend. which they have been doing obviously. So they kinda prove my point. they want to make a complete 5 on 5 sim before all the extra stuff that "children" like you want in a game. Im all for implementing a better All Star Weekend in the game like, 3 pt, Slam Dunk. But i rather all hands be on deck for creating the best 5 on 5 sim that they can, including presentation. Then you can afford to make tweeks to game play and focus more on the extra things. ie yes back to that game again, MLB The Show.

So because he said something negative about you, he doesn't know basketball?

Gameplay and presentation will NEVER be "perfect" on any sports game, on this generation, or maybe ever. It is IMPOSSIBLE to make a game that does exactly everything you see when you watch an actual game. There's way too many variables to consider. Once we get to a certain point, we'll be complaining that birds don't accidentally fly in front of fastballs every once in a while in MLB The Show.

Just because we want fun, interesting features in a VIDEO GAME, that makes us children? Gee, sorry mister, I'll just let you go back to listening to "All Things Considered" and reading your latest Policy Review issue. My apologies, I'm sorry I'm not a serious gamer like you.

# 37 Ike04 @ 03/02/11 11:54 AM

the dunk contest needs to be much better. i personally haven't liked the way all star weekend has been represented in the black top mode in 2k for the past 2 years. i love the game, but they need to copy nba live 05 with the all star weekend. They could even include the skills challenge event with the real areans, judges, and more realistic dunks. they should keep the blacktop version as an alternative though, but for sim-heads like me i would like to see all star weekend portrayed as it is in real life.

# 38 Ike04 @ 03/02/11 12:02 PM

my player also needs to be tuned a lot. I dont know why but on hall of fame and superstar the cpu shoots and extremely high percentage with players from anywhere on the floor. Also, the amount of POST MOVE SHOTS THE CPU MAKES! this is a huge problem. How often are you playing my player, or any game against the cpu, and they throw the ball into their post player and he does a fadeway off glass or from the baseline? this needs to be fixed immediately. Not every post player is kobe or jordan so they should not be able to pull off these moves and have success with them consistently. Also, fix the post defense. as it is now, we only have the option to contest a shot or go for an (canned-animation) steal while defending in the post. Use a jostling system like fifa or like nba elite tried to implement.

# 39 I_am_Beast @ 03/11/11 12:51 PM

i would like to see 2k put more options into the my player mode such as more than one interview question,more endorsements, even something like a gatorade commerical or something where you try and improve your game over the off season, cause the my player mode can get boring just playing game after game give the players something to look foward or throw a twist in every now and again or even something like in fifa where you can play for the usa team in fiba or the olympics, also i think they should have something where you start in the ncaa tourney or nit tourney and you can earn a better draft status before you compete in the draft combine

# 40 Mooshi @ 03/27/11 03:37 PM

Bad idea. The dunk contest is a dieing spectacle in the NBA and is just a front for product placement. Why not focus on making My Player mode for 2k12 the best career mode ever. The game itself was fine besides the fact that I rarely saw a charge foul being called and the cpu can read passes way to easily on the hall of fame difficulty setting. If I wanted to buy a game that was redunkulous I would buy NBA jam. So don't improve the dunk contest and focus on other staple game modes and overall gameplay.

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