"When you boot up NBA 2K11 the first time, he is there to greet you. His Airness emerging from the tunnel, "Sirius" by the Alan Parsons Project (Bulls introduction theme song) playing at the Chicago Stadium, and the PA announcer introducing the players to an audience that I was now a part of despite being behind a TV screen. It was Jordan, it was June 1991, and it was Magic all over again.
This phenomenal intro was a great way to start off the NBA 2K11 experience, and it also set the tone for what the game has to offer this year.
This opening sequence capsulized the fact that the developers at 2K Sports team were up to the challenges that came with using one of the most popular sports figures in history as a cover athlete for their top franchise.
Meeting the expectations that come with creating an authentic Jordan experience would have been enough, but 2K Sports didn't stop there. NBA 2K11 dared to go even beyond that and put together the most compelling basketball video game to date. Just like MJ had done throughout his career, NBA 2K11 sought out greatness."
Read More - NBA 2K11 ReviewWritten By: TD St. Matthew-Daniel
The Show 2009 was ground breaking no question and 2010 was just polished up more in the presentation on the field department
NHL 2011 is almost perfection
Those 2 games are in the same echelon of NBA2K11 and certainly deserve the same accolades.
And if you have never played these games inside and out you can't just push them aside and say NBA2K11 is better.
Demo's? Impressions? That is not truly playing the game and I would never feel anyones opinion to be credible unless they played the game, all the modes, and really gave it a true test drive.
I think the review was fair and at the end of the day it's simply one man's opinion. 9 or 9.5, I don't see a big difference. Giving this game a 10 would mean that it's perfect and it's not. NBA 2K11 does many things well, but one thing that still annoys me is the problem of getting stuck in animations. It's not as bad as last year but it's still there to some degree.
I have to agree that there is no way you can possibly rate a game based on a demo. I will say that NBA 2K11 is the best sports game that I have ever played but I CANNOT call it the greatest sportsgame of all time because I have never played the full versions of NHL 11 and the MLB The Show.
Again thanks for proving my point. Your problem isn't so much 2k's score it's Maddens score. Which means you are complaining about Madden in the wrong thread. Which the same handful of people continuously do then claim to be victims when called on it.
Complaining about Maddens score in a nba2k review thread makes what kind of sense if you are not trying to further the same old tired agenda.
As far as your poorly thought out notion that people who don't agree with me I call out as agenda drivers. Agree with me about what exactly??
You are so fixed on the word madden its eating your brain. Maddens score is used as a reference. I could have said Halo and my point would still be made. Halo gets high scores as a fps. It does not have any kind of cover system like gears of war or Kane and Lynch or mafia 2. It does not have a environment destruction engine like Red faction or kane and lynch or mafia 2. From that perspective its behind the times, but it has a large following and the game ain't garbage so it still gets high scores. The other games may bring more to the table game play wise, but wont get those scores or equal scores through they have a better feature set.
Where in this thread does anyone complain about Madden getting a 9 ? The point trying to be made is, if Madden gets a 9 with the features it released with, How can NBA2k11 with what it has done also get a 9 ? If Madden had the feature set 2K11 has and 2K11 had released with Madden like feature set, I would still ask the same question. How does 2k11 get the same rating as Madden.
So thank YOU for proving my point. You the one with the "agenda." Who are you ? The leader of the Madden defense Squad ?
You got a real bad habit of taking someones post and presenting YOUR interpretation of it as the posters. If your reading comprehension is distorted because the word madden touches you so, maybe you need to put us "agenda" posters on ignore. You can't handle it man.
I think the review was fair and at the end of the day it's simply one man's opinion. 9 or 9.5, I don't see a big difference. Giving this game a 10 would mean that it's perfect and it's not. NBA 2K11 does many things well, but one thing that still annoys me is the problem of getting stuck in animations. It's not as bad as last year but it's still there to some degree.
I have to agree that there is no way you can possibly rate a game based on a demo. I will say that NBA 2K11 is the best sports game that I have ever played but I CANNOT call it the greatest sportsgame of all time because I have never played the full versions of NHL 11 and the MLB The Show.
As far as Baseball games...The Show is the Gold standard IMO. I played MVP 2005 till I went Next Gen and bought The Show 2009. I have never looked back. Just amazing. It captures the most important aspect of video baseball games for me in the pitcher/batter dual. Just incredible. NHL 2011 is a hockey fans dream but what is more impressive is how great it is as just a stand alone game for the casual fan (me). I love this game and I am by no means a hockey expert/die hard. But it plays amazing, is a load of fun and very deep and immersive like both The Show and NBA2K11
My all-time great rankings (and I have played and own all the games we are talking about)
1) MLB The Show 2009
2) NBA 2K11
3) NHL 2011
4) NFL2K5
5) Ch2K2008
6) NCAA 2011
7) FIFA 2009 (never got 2010, 2011 yet)
9) Madden 2005
10) Madden 2011 (yes it is really good offline if you can make it right with sliders, gameplans, and controlling all 32 teams)
I think that 2K11 is great couse Basketball in my opinion is one of the hardest sport to simulate. So it's a 9's ....9.0 or 9.5 as you prefer....
But I'd like to see a little less contact/ force field between players. In other words they just need to work on collisions: If a quick SG/PG goes full speed in transition defenders will have hard time stopping them like in CH 2k8. Many times SG like Wade are stopped by defenders too easily. This is the only problem that I complain about 2K11 gameplay. Also control can be improved even more....but great improvement over 2k10 ^_^... maybe with a patch.....
Aside from this I would rate "The Show" a little higher than 2K11 becouse of athmosphere and authencity that brings. Also Pro Evolution 2011 is outstanding from this point of view, really impressive. 2K is improved but I thibk it's a step down in respect to Show or PES.
But 2k franchise has an huge potential maybe the greatest of all....I can't really imagine what they will bring us with PS4/XBOX 720 hardware....
A great review for the best sports game of all time,at least till nfl 2k13 comes out that is.
NFL 2K is very much needed. Madden is being allowed to slide with no competitor in its market. We're forced to be consumers in a SELLER's market, when it comes to professional football games. If there was a competing product, (NFL 2K, of course), we as the gamer would be able to choose from two products that we developed with the competing product in mind. This would produce a Better product for us, the consumer. That, my friends, would be a BUYER's market... and that's where we wanna be. For the record, NFL 2K on these NewGen consoles would go H.A.M!!!
I totally have to agree with Blackrome and RimFro.... the controls on 2k11 get extremely frustrating. I love the game overall, but just cant understand how every player in the game is like a mini "Dennis Rodman" on D every time I want to drive in the lane, they magnitize right in front of my.
I agree about the momentum and the controls not being precise. But, surely you guys can't compare HS ball to the NBA. The lanes should close much quicker. You understand if they change the things you guys are talking about the game would just turn into a cheese fest again. It's a sim game, we finally have a legitimate sim product and people are still complaining. Trust me we don't want the inverse again.
I agree about the momentum and the controls not being precise. But, surely you guys can't compare HS ball to the NBA. The lanes should close much quicker. You understand if they change the things you guys are talking about the game would just turn into a cheese fest again. It's a sim game, we finally have a legitimate sim product and people are still complaining. Trust me we don't want the inverse again.
YES!!!! We finally do have a sim game and I am so petrified they will patch something and turn into the dunk PIP fest that has plauged all basketball games...and I mean all of them.
Please 2K do not patch the defense and keep this game tight and challenging. The only thing I see are visual aid glitches and according to some Association bugs...do not tune the gameplay....we can do that with the sliders.
This game rocks...don't give in to the culture shocked dunkfest arcade players. They have their own mode...it's called casual.
Please.
In fact I will make sure I do not DL any patch until I see clear evidence that it did not amp up the offense.
The game is bliss. Thank you again 2K for a wonderful early X-mas present.
The Show 2009 was ground breaking no question and 2010 was just polished up more in the presentation on the field department
NHL 2011 is almost perfection
Those 2 games are in the same echelon of NBA2K11 and certainly deserve the same accolades.
And if you have never played these games inside and out you can't just push them aside and say NBA2K11 is better.
Demo's? Impressions? That is not truly playing the game and I would never feel anyones opinion to be credible unless they played the game, all the modes, and really gave it a true test drive.
You don't review games based on demos.
That's nuts.
100% right on all accounts. Based on a demo. Lol. Opof course he's the same guy whi gave 2k a free pass for their baseball effort.
You are so fixed on the word madden its eating your brain. Maddens score is used as a reference. I could have said Halo and my point would still be made. Halo gets high scores as a fps. It does not have any kind of cover system like gears of war or Kane and Lynch or mafia 2. It does not have a environment destruction engine like Red faction or kane and lynch or mafia 2. From that perspective its behind the times, but it has a large following and the game ain't garbage so it still gets high scores. The other games may bring more to the table game play wise, but wont get those scores or equal scores through they have a better feature set.
Where in this thread does anyone complain about Madden getting a 9 ? The point trying to be made is, if Madden gets a 9 with the features it released with, How can NBA2k11 with what it has done also get a 9 ? If Madden had the feature set 2K11 has and 2K11 had released with Madden like feature set, I would still ask the same question. How does 2k11 get the same rating as Madden.
So thank YOU for proving my point. You the one with the "agenda." Who are you ? The leader of the Madden defense Squad ?
You got a real bad habit of taking someones post and presenting YOUR interpretation of it as the posters. If your reading comprehension is distorted because the word madden touches you so, maybe you need to put us "agenda" posters on ignore. You can't handle it man.
How exactly did I defend Madden? Its painfully obvious what I posted was beyond your skill level. You simply don't know any better. It's also painfully obvious I hit close to home hence your need to so vehemently deny your agenda.
It's quite obvious the main complaint from you and your fellow militia leaders is the Madden score. Wrong thread ton discuss that.
Not to mention comparing scores of different games based on different sports by different reviewers 3 months apart makes no sense. Other than to complain for the sake of complaining.
As far as Baseball games...The Show is the Gold standard IMO. I played MVP 2005 till I went Next Gen and bought The Show 2009. I have never looked back. Just amazing. It captures the most important aspect of video baseball games for me in the pitcher/batter dual. Just incredible. NHL 2011 is a hockey fans dream but what is more impressive is how great it is as just a stand alone game for the casual fan (me). I love this game and I am by no means a hockey expert/die hard. But it plays amazing, is a load of fun and very deep and immersive like both The Show and NBA2K11
My all-time great rankings (and I have played and own all the games we are talking about)
1) MLB The Show 2009
2) NBA 2K11
3) NHL 2011
4) NFL2K5
5) Ch2K2008
6) NCAA 2011
7) FIFA 2009 (never got 2010, 2011 yet)
9) Madden 2005
10) Madden 2011 (yes it is really good offline if you can make it right with sliders, gameplans, and controlling all 32 teams)
It's clearly become my favorite basketball game bypassing ch2k8. To me it's a top 5 sports game all time. But I can see no way you could say it's quality clearly separated itself from the Show. IMO like others have said it's still behind the Show but they are definitely in the same ballpark.
I think my list goes something like this.
1. MLB The Show '10
2. Espn 2k5
3. NBA 2k11
4. NCAA 2011
5. NCAA 2004
Agreed. Even though it's not a deal breaker like it was in 2K9 and 2K10. I have to admit, the controls are much more improved than in recent years, but it's nowhere near as fluid as it was in CH 2K8. Depsite what has been touted, there are still sluggish controls and hanging animations. Also, there are nagging issues like players constantly picking up their dribbles during contact, inconceivable steals by the AI, and out-of-control pass attempts when your intended pass recipient is caught up in some hanging animation after getting bumped (FRUSTRATING). Even with these issues, it's still one of the better basketball titles I've ever played - and I've been playing bball games since Jordan vs Bird (on the Tiger handheld, no less). I just hope that 2K can resolve some of the issues that are present through a patch, then maybe we just may have one of, if not the best sports game ever.
This is one of my favorite additions to 2k11- the physicality. It has been missing for a while and it is a big part of the NBA game in general. We are talking about 10 grown men on the court ranging anywhere between sizes of 6'1" to 7'2"+ all trying to execute gameplans. Guys are colliding and bumping into each other routinely over the course of a game. The NBA is certainly not as brutal as the 80's and 90's but plenty of on ball and off ball contact takes place on almost every possession. Forcing ball handlers to pick up their dribble with good D is a welcome addition imo. Who knows what the game would be like if they took this out with a patch(Dunk city USA). Getting to the paint untouched is about reading the defense, creating space, and getting the d out of position allowing u to get where u want. All these principles apply in 2k11 as well..
This is one of my favorite additions to 2k11- the physicality. It has been missing for a while and it is a big part of the NBA game in general. We are talking about 10 grown men on the court ranging anywhere between sizes of 6'1" to 7'2"+ all trying to execute gameplans. Guys are colliding and bumping into each other routinely over the course of a game. The NBA is certainly not as brutal as the 80's and 90's but plenty of on ball and off ball contact takes place on almost every possession. Forcing ball handlers to pick up their dribble with good D is a welcome addition imo. Who knows what the game would be like if they took this out with a patch(Dunk city USA). Getting to the paint untouched is about reading the defense, creating space, and getting the d out of position allowing u to get where u want. All these principles apply in 2k11 as well..
Great review OS..
I don't have any problems with the contact, nor do I have a problem with players picking up their dribble during contact. I feel it's a welcomed feature that makes the game a lot less run-and-gun and somewhat more authentic. And I never wished that 2K would implement a patch that removes the feature. What I do have a problem with is the frequency of players picking up their dribble, which is more times than is should be happening. In a real life game, you don't see players picking up their dribble after every other time contact is initiated. Another problem I have with this is one game where I was playing as the Knicks with Amar'e Stoudemire against the Suns, and had what I thought was an advantageous mismatch with Steve Nash during a defensive switch. As I was backing him down, somehow my player stumbled and I lost control of the ball which caused me to pick up my dribble. Huh!!? With time running down on the shot clock, I had to settle for a fadeaway jumper - against Steve Nash, no less.
Again, I like the contact. There are just times like this example where it can get just plain ridiculous.
I don't have any problems with the contact, nor do I have a problem with players picking up their dribble during contact. I feel it's a welcomed feature that makes the game a lot less run-and-gun and somewhat more authentic. And I never wished that 2K would implement a patch that removes the feature. What I do have a problem with is the frequency of players picking up their dribble, which is more times than is should be happening. In a real life game, you don't see players picking up their dribble after every other time contact is initiated. Another problem I have with this is one game where I was playing as the Knicks with Amar'e Stoudemire against the Suns, and had what I thought was an advantageous mismatch with Steve Nash during a defensive switch. As I was backing him down, somehow my player stumbled and I lost control of the ball which caused me to pick up my dribble. Huh!!? With time running down on the shot clock, I had to settle for a fadeaway jumper - against Steve Nash, no less.
Again, I like the contact. There are just times like this example where it can get just plain ridiculous.
Ok. I got you DaReapa. When you initially described them as "nagging issues" and then I saw the word patch in your post I got worried. I see your issue with Amare though, just curious if you were trying to do a spin move,etc. to a certain direction and Nash beat you to the spot forcing you to lose dribble?
I see your issue with Amare though, just curious if you were trying to do a spin move,etc. to a certain direction and Nash beat you to the spot forcing you to lose dribble?
Nah. Nothing fancy or out of the ordinary. I figured that since it was just Steve Nash guarding me, a simple back-down would suffice. Boy was I wrong. Even after picking up my dribble, I figured that I was close enough to attempt a leaner, but the game's overbearing animation and all it's infinite wisdom decided it was best that I do a fade-away jumper instead. Splendid. /s
You have to at least say /rant if you go on a diatribe like that.
Thank you Chase B, I have tried to tell people that 2k10 plays a better game of basketball and i get laughed at. I have yet to get a charge or be called for offensive charging in the game and I am unable to walk the ball up court with my point guard. I never fell like I have complete control over my player because I am forced into a canned animation. Great review by a true gamer