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# 81 Old Mr T @ 06/24/10 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by canes21
I keep rewatching it and I am just going to say you are not going to be able to change my opinion. Revis was playing a flat zone it looked like and stayed in his zone. Then once the ball was thrown, he took a whole second to get turned around, then another whole second to run and jump. Thats enough time to me. It may not have looked as pretty as possible, but that doesn't mean its unrealistic.

If the ball wasn't a duck and Revis was sprinting full speed and then turned and made the catch, then I would be a bit upset. But when the pass is just wobbling through the air at a slow pace, its okay. Also, I have seen people talk about Revis' jump. Whats so unrealistic about it. It appears to me he is maybe 3 feet off the ground at the max. I'd say more lik 30 inches. Thats not really a lot for a NFL player to jump from a running start. I'd say 99% of college DB's can get 30+ inches on their vertical and thats taken from a standstill.
I agree with you.

It's Maddens so you've got to ignore the ugly physics to a degree. In relation to the throw, the outcome is fine with me.
 
# 82 PVarck31 @ 06/24/10 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SincerelYourz
no, revis does not run a 4.0/40...especially while running at an angle...with pads on...
Take it easy there. I was under the assumption he was talking about game speed in general.
 
# 83 Skyboxer @ 06/24/10 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by canes21


Thank you for letting me know who I am and who I am not.
I was saying you're were not seeing things....
 
# 84 shh @ 06/24/10 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TreyIM2
Agreed. I LIKE the right analog kicking. Feels more "realistic" and fits more into present day sports gaming. I hope there is an option to go back to analog.
People actually complained about the kicking being too complicated ?? Ea changed it... Back to 10 year's..
 
# 85 SincerelYourz @ 06/25/10 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by pjv31_OS
Take it easy there. I was under the assumption he was talking about game speed in general.
i'm easy.
 
# 86 canes21 @ 06/25/10 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyboxer
I was saying you're were not seeing things....
lol oops
 
# 87 Critical Kills @ 06/25/10 01:02 PM
Yeah, I agree tehBomBthreat - now if it was a bullet pass and he did that i'd be right there with the complainers but that was a hanging ball, of course I can see Revis doing just what he did in that clip...
 
# 88 bxgoods @ 06/25/10 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tehBomBthreat
First off all... You guys are crazii -_-

Second The ball was a drifter.. Revis left his man went to the ball. What's wrong with that? You guys are sounding crazy about momentum, Revis is athletic, he can do that -_-
I don't think they've seen Revis play on a week to week basis.
 
# 89 RaiderKtulu @ 06/25/10 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tehBomBthreat
First off all... You guys are crazii -_-

Second The ball was a drifter.. Revis left his man went to the ball. What's wrong with that?
Nothing's wrong with it, in theory.

The problem is the way it looked when it happened. If people want to claim that they want a realistic football game, then you can't accept "close enough" for a result. Oh it was realistic for a video game... NO, it wasn't. It looked fracking wrong. Period.

Like I said earlier in the thread, if Revis was strafing when the ball came out, it wouldn't be worth complaining about. But he wasn't.

Not to mention how stupid it looked for the RB to just stand there at the 5 and look into the backfield while Revis is going after this wounded duck pass. They were running the same direction when the ball came out, why didn't the RB go after it too?
 
# 90 canes21 @ 06/25/10 01:32 PM
The RB hd his head clearly away from all the action. Revis's head did not look completely turned away from the QB.
 
# 91 BezO @ 06/25/10 03:02 PM
The folks that don't see a problem with the play, do you not have a problem with the lack of change of direction animation? You don't want to see him gather, plant, lean, explode then jump?
 
# 92 Skyboxer @ 06/25/10 03:45 PM
There was change of direction. Rev is was barely even moving to his left. Don't see how that means there needs to be a huge body lean.

He also, from what my eyes seen jumped off his right leg and made a catch. Again the ball was barely moving and was just fluttering in air. Why did it need some sore of highlight reel INT move?

At this point I think it's just picking to pick. So that's it for me in this thread.
 
# 93 JayD @ 06/25/10 03:57 PM
There are a lot of empty seats.
 
# 94 K_GUN @ 06/25/10 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BezO
The folks that don't see a problem with the play, do you not have a problem with the lack of change of direction animation? You don't want to see him gather, plant, lean, explode then jump?
not in a video game....because that's a mighty long, beautiful animation that won't let me take control until its over
 
# 95 Critical Kills @ 06/25/10 04:20 PM
LMAO, that comment caught me off guard...
 
# 96 monkeybutlerz @ 06/25/10 04:37 PM
Revis is good, but he's not good enough to defy the laws of physics. You can't change directions like that without losing some manner of speed. For him to get back to the ball he would have to decelerate, plant, turn, re-accelerate and make the catch, or at least take a wider trajectory if it's a mere turn.

I'm a Madden fan too, but that certainly wasn't the depiction of realism some are making it out to be. I understand it's a video game and it won't be perfect and that's fine, but to argue that we see THAT every sunday is flat out BS.
 
# 97 BezO @ 06/25/10 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by K_GUN
not in a video game....because that's a mighty long, beautiful animation that won't let me take control until its over
It's 3 different animations. Gather. Plant. Lean. 4... I forgot the shorter steps while accelerating.

And Madden allows you to break any animation. As long is I transition to another realistic animation, I'm cool.

I think Madden's uber control kills the timing of football. I also think controlling the game would be easier if the movement was more realistic.
 
# 98 canes21 @ 06/25/10 05:01 PM
Revis does not need to chop his feet to turn around and catch that pass. When he was just strafing and not really going fast at all, turning around in two steps is easy. Heck, most pro athletes can turn around in a couple steps when sprinting. I play football as a DB/WR and the Revis play does not look unrealistic or anything like a superstar play. I probably won't play football in college and I would have been able to make the same interception and taken it for 6.
 
# 99 BezO @ 06/25/10 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by canes21
Revis does not need to chop his feet to turn around and catch that pass. When he was just strafing and not really going fast at all, turning around in two steps is easy.
I'll have to take another look, but I remember him in a running animation, not straffing. Even jogging, you can't spin on a foot and turn in the opposite direction without breaking stride. I'm not saying chop his feet. Gather & plant. When moving with any type of speed, athletes brace themselves in some way before planting and changing direction.

And you also don't hit full stride right after changing direction. There are some choppier steps when accelerating.

This stuff takes time. More time than Revis took.
 
# 100 canes21 @ 06/25/10 05:29 PM
He took two steps and jumped, thats not hard at all. And he did get low when changing direction, or was in a crouched type position anyways. Its not like he was sprinting and turned and then jumped 4 feet for the pick. He was going pretty steadily, turned and jumped 2 feet in the air for the pick.
 


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