UFC Undisputed 2010 News Post

UFC Undisputed 2010 Requires Code for Online Play (Pastapadre, Destructoid)

11:40 PM - May 19, 2010 by Steve_OS

Pastapadre has posted some interesting news regarding a required code to play UFC Undisputed 2010.

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	"Earlier this week word started leaking out that THQ would be including a unique one-time use code in new copies of UFC 2010 Undisputed. This code provides access to all online play functionality. If a used copy of the game is bought or if the game is rented, one would have to purchase a code through the marketplace."

Destructoid has an official response from THQ.

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	"THQ is delivering a truly unmatched online gaming experience for fans of UFC and across all fighting games in general. The main enhancement of UFC Undisputed 2010�s premium online content is the new �Fight Camp Mode� in which players can assemble ranks of up to 40 people and train together. This is a significant value-add to the game as players can continually improve their skills by training with their friends and bringing teams of MMA specialists together. This multiplayer content for UFC Undisputed 2010 will be available via a one-time code included with the game at purchase. Codes for accessing the content will be available for second-time buyers for an additional $5. Details for acquiring the codes and how this will work will be available via the UFC community site."

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# 21 DaoudS @ 05/20/10 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jukeman


	This the type of crap that makes you want to boycott thing... Im buying the game no doubt but this will open of doors for other companies to try this... As of now, online play is the strong point of many games(not really saying much) while offline play is left untouched, shorthanded, or flawed in AI... Basically if you dont buy "our" game you are shorthanded and F you for not buying... I wonder how much will they charge for the code? anything over $5 is Oh and not only do I have to pay to have access online(MS) I have to pay even more to play online with a rented/used game??? CRAZINESS My Xbox live membership was over almost 2weeks ago, they are still trying to charging a old card with no money on it, but my access to xbox live is still working() and after this post they prolly will cut it off but I am not in a rush to pay them after this news... I know one thing for sure is that there better not be any lag or cheats going on online if they trying to charge second hand buyers...

I thought the same thing a year ago, BUT they will charge your new credit card number - regardless of whether or not you have updated it. If they have something on file, they will charge it. I think they might just guess the expiry date. I would call them and cancel and remove any credit card information from your account.

# 22 Jukeman @ 05/20/10 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkAdrianPI


	REASONS WHY THIS IS HAPPENING: 1. Many gamers are addicted. Look a the tobacco industry. Most people just cannot quit cold turkey because of years of addiction and thus will make any excuse on why the companies should nickle and dime you. WHY? a)The younger you are the more easily manipulated you are. So essentially anyone early 20's and lower will have a harder time quitting and saying no to companies. b) Intelligence plays a big part in this. The higher IQ person is more likely to differentiate right from wrong in the business world and outside. 2)Used games offer price competition. Anyone notice game companies don't compete price wise. It's cohesion but legal because corporates can do what they want. Used games are essentially price competition and logically new games should have lowered their price to compete. The last time their was a price competition in the game industry EA bought the NFL license and ended it.Remember NFL2k series was 20 bucks and Madden started dropping its price to 40 and eventually 30 dollars. 3) When you buy a game should you not have a right to resell it? Like a used car. Like a house. Like a ( fill in the blank) 4) Essentially you cannot trade/lend/borrow games from your friends and family. 5) Game companies are not losing money. Essentially the person who buys the game originally already paid for the online service. He sells the game and simply extends the games life. It is not adding any extra strain on the game companies part. 6) Sports games need to stop the roster updates. Clearly Madden buyers are addicted. The game has made very little improvements and is still behind NFL2k5. That's six years ago. WHAT TO DO? SAY NO STOP PURCHASING AND THEY WILL STOP THIS AND THE DLC BULL CRAP!!

This is BIG many of us are prolly grown and it wont really matter but growing up as a kid, trading my sega games with my friends from school was almost like trading baseball cards...I enjoyed borrowing games from them as well..Not to mention the sleep overs, after school and hanging out on the weekend, playing games that I or they have brought over...

Now if I was 10 years old now, and stayed over a friend's or family member's house, you mean to tell me not only do I have to bring over UFC but I also have to bring my 360 too??? while dude already own one just to take turns(over even play together;LEFT 4 DEAD for ex) trashing people online all night???

even if they tied the codes into the user profiles it still will be a hassle...

# 23 DubTrey1 @ 05/20/10 10:48 AM

So begins the trend.....

# 24 CaptainZombie @ 05/20/10 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by goh


	I can see Sony or Nintendo allowing it but MS shouldn't.

Why do you see Sony and N allowing this, but not MS? I hope this is not another pot shot at Sony or that we already pay for XBL as excuses.

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Originally Posted by Acedeck


	I'm sure Sony and MS don't mind because they claim they are "offering bonus content" with the promotional code. We all know they aren't offering anything different than they would've done before. waves Bye Gamestop. It was nice while it lasted.

Unless Gamestop lowers their used prices on brand new games from the $54.99 that they charge, I think they will be hurt by this a bit for those that like to play online.

# 25 sb24 @ 05/20/10 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CreatineKasey


	People better complain about this too. There was a 500 post thread hating on EA for doing this exact thing. I'm waiting....

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Originally Posted by ufgators253


	This right here. If there isn't outrage against this then there goes the credibility of a lot of people in that thread.

Well you guys cant stop right now. The fact this thread was posted late last night and by 10 am already has 30 posts of people complaining should tell the outrage is all the same. The huge difference, Madden usually has close to 100 viewing at a time while this forum has maybe 5, unless an event is going on that people are commenting about. (Or when the game is about to be released)

There is no chance the thread will be as long as the madden forum one. Most guys here wont get into the pointless back and forth name calling that clutters alot of madden threads.

# 26 Jukeman @ 05/20/10 12:40 PM

Pretty much.. the used games and rented games are accounted for, as of now, who ever is in charge of making this decision is just being greedy and up the sales to the maximum...

We better get a better all around product...

UFC 2011 AI (THQ SVR AI sux too) better be a hugh upgrade..

# 27 allBthere @ 05/20/10 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Azamien


	It's not about used games offering price competition. It's about the fact that the game publishers make $0.00 on used games. Surely I'm not the only person who thinks it's not out-of-line for companies to want to get paid for copies of their games that get sold. Businesses exist to make money, and the cost of making A-AAA titles is rising more and more. The alternative to DLC/online codes/whatever would be for the big companies to demand that chains like Gamestop stop dealing in used games, or start demanding a cut of the sales. The former would be a huge disaster for Gamestop, and the latter would be a huge disaster for anyone who wants to buy used games since the price of them would rise to make up for the loss of profit by the stores. The answer is simple: if you want the features included only in new copies, but don't want to pay full release price, wait until the price drops.

so what? If I sold my new IMAC, apple wouldn't get a penny. They earned the money for that merchandise already.

UFC 2009 didn't have the biggest budget ever or anything. They also sold over 4million copies - they are doing fine. The only companies doing this are EA and now THQ - which tells me they want more money not because their sales are sluggish, but because they are shizzy with money, waste it, make bad decisions and want the consumers to pay for it.

There shouldn't be an alternative, it's should just be part of the cost of operating their business! And if there absolutely had to be some kind of alternative - don't put it on the consumers, all they know is they paid for the game and now they have to pay again online?!? It's confusing and insulting. If anything Gamestop could pay the publisher a $5 "re-stocking fee" ...but in the end it's all BS and should remain, as I said, part of the overhead operating a business. To play online as it is I need the internet hooked up ($35-70 a month), I need a console (MS/sony new console cost), I need xbl (for 360), and I need to buy the game ($60) ...I'm already paying to play online with all these prerequisites. Since many games have advertising in them (additional revenue), when I'm hosting online games, maybe I should charge the publisher's for my ad-space, since I'm providing the bandwidth! Anyway you cut it, this is total BS and disrespectful to consumers.

And finally, the answer is simple. MS and Sony need to say "you want to publish games on our consoles? Stop insulting and frustrating our user base."

edit: oh and one final thought...you want to reduce your used game market? Make games worth keeping... CoD4 can still fetch you $25 or more used. THAT is staying power.

# 28 Azamien @ 05/20/10 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkAdrianPI


	SO I buy a game for $60 and sell it to a friend, so I am in the wrong? Makes no sense. Your logic is flawed. Not sure how old you are, business exist to make money. You understand that they should make better products right...? It's like blaming the consumer for not wanting the recycled crap with roster updates.

When did I say that buying or selling used games is wrong? I didn't. I simply said that publishers finding ways to encourage buying the games new rather than used isn't bad.

As for the "they should make better products", it's your logic that's flawed. If the game isn't up to the standard that customers desire, why are they buying the game used? Why are they spending any money on it at all? "They should make better products" has nothing to do with whether or not publishers should encourage customers to buy new copies instead of used.

If a game isn't worth my money, I don't buy it. It's pretty simple. If the game is worth my money, I'd rather that at least part of the money I spend goes to the people who made the game worth buying, rather than buying a used copy where all of the money goes to Gamestop.

# 29 eeyor @ 05/20/10 12:53 PM

I really don't understand why people are complaining in such a manner about this online activation thing. Guys are really thinking that all people are that dump? Do you really think that you will be the one paying more? Why? I don't get it. This is simple economics.

Supply and Demand is what governs the used game market. People will buy a game used if and only if he thinks that the value he gets from playing the game matches the amount in $ he is willing to pay for it. Now lets have a closer look at this. Given that the consumer is informed about that a game requires online activation if bought second hand (he needs to be made aware of either by the retail stuff selling the used game or by a note on the backcover of the game) he will only buy the used game, if it satisfies the criteria of being in his/her price range:

Price of used game + 5-10$ for online activation = actual Price for the used game

If the consumer is willing to pay this price he can buy the game, if not, he will not make the purchase.
However the market will regulate itself. The used game price will be discounted by the amount of costs from the online activation. That is common known theory in economics. So a game that now costs 49$ used will then become 44$ or 39$ in order for the retailer to make the sale. Again simple economics.

So in the end, its not the consumer paying more, its just a redistribution of who gets the money out of a used game transaction. You will not pay more. Why would you? It is your choice.
In the end the selfregulation of the used game market could be for the better for us customers. If the market discounts used games by the amount of the online activation people who do not want to play online will pay even less than it they would pay now.

# 30 TracerBullet @ 05/20/10 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nextgengamer


	These companies will continue to dig deeper into the consumer pockets. If you agree with them then you must also agree with this argument, when you buy a used car there should be a fee of $3000.00 so the car manufacturer can be compensated and get their piece of the pie in the used car market. My internet company QWEST tried to charge a dollar fee to pay my bill online, which has always been free before. Can you believe that i had to pay to pay my bill. It didn't last long customer were furious, everyone complained and many canceled their service, its the principle not the dollar amount. WE HAVE TO MAKE A STAND.

Car comapanies get money from used cars form the parts you buy when it breaks down later on. Most people still go through the dealers to get there parts so they are making money off of the used cars being brought.

# 31 bkfount @ 05/20/10 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ufgators253


	Car comapanies get money from used cars form the parts you buy when it breaks down later on. Most people still go through the dealers to get there parts so they are making money off of the used cars being brought.

game companies can also make money from used sales. Every copy that gets passed along used expands the market for DLC. Many people actually buy new games by trading or selling their old games. Picking up a game used for cheap can also lead to interest in a future sequel purchase.

# 32 Luck911 @ 05/20/10 09:10 PM

I have no problem in supporting the company that makes the game than gamestop and user games dealers.When you buy a game from Used dealers you are not supporting the game company.That is reality ,this small incentive to buy game new to avoid this stuff.

With that said Game industry is opening a can of worms it does not want to open.If i am going to pay for Online access that said Online access better be working near perfection.Disconnecting,Lags and cheap tactics better be eliminated quickly.

# 33 Azamien @ 05/20/10 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bkfount


	Every copy that gets passed along used expands the market for DLC.

No it doesn't. The first owner no longer has it, so there's still the same number of possible DLC customers. One copy = one DLC buyer.

# 34 eeyor @ 05/21/10 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkAdrianPI


	FAIL!!! Are you insane? One copy multiple DLC buyers. Example: I own LEFT4Dead I buy the DLC, I sell L4D to my friend he also buys the DLC....one game two DLC's purchases.

OMG Mark, this logic is soooooooooooo flawed! Why in gods name would someone that is really looking out for the money with a certain game, buying DLC for that game...? are you serious? If I am going to pick up a used game I mostly do not buy DLC.
You need to incentivize me for buying DLC. If I buy a game new and always are the first to get new stuff, thats the people buying DLC, not the people buying the game 3-6 month after release after a huge price drop in the used game.

# 35 bkfount @ 05/21/10 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Azamien


	No it doesn't. The first owner no longer has it, so there's still the same number of possible DLC customers. One copy = one DLC buyer.

I bought fallout 3 and all the dlc, when I was done, I sold it. Entirely possible the next owner may want to do the same, especially since he got it for so cheap.

# 36 Azamien @ 05/21/10 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bkfount


	I bought fallout 3 and all the dlc, when I was done, I sold it. Entirely possible the next owner may want to do the same, especially since he got it for so cheap.

Yeah, I was thinking "future DLC", not DLC that was already released. My bad.

# 37 Jukeman @ 06/02/10 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by goh


	It's pretty disturbing that if you go to top downloads that THIS is the top one. Are people not aware of the code? There can't be that* many used copies already?*

yeah it is, unless the free downloads count..

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