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# 21 MizzouRah @ 08/23/09 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by baa7


	I laughed too when I saw that particular word, but he has a point nonetheless. It's pretty bad when they don't bother to change a single thing with the presentation from one year to the next. And given it's been four years with what amounts to the identical presentation, I think it's more than fair to say they are slacking off in that area of the game's development, big time.

I agree baa.. if they had 2k's intros, arenas, and goal horns.. wow... but they seem to have focused on game play the last few years and I can only hope next year it's presentation.. ala Madden.

# 22 MizzouRah @ 08/23/09 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Eddie1967


	For a long time I always thought EA's game looked better and maybe it did in the past but like you said that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. EA's graphic look like they took a step back this year.

I don't see it.. at least not in the demo. In fact, the camera seems lower to the ice and I can see more detail.

# 23 MizzouRah @ 08/23/09 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Eddie1967


	Great post. I'm still playing the EA demo because the game play is good. I'm trying my hardest to give this game a "fair" chance this year.

Well it doesn't seem like it.

Nothing wrong with liking parts of both games...

# 24 MizzouRah @ 08/23/09 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottdau


	It wont happen 2k always has better Animation and presentation it is what they are known for. EA needs to learn how to make Arenas look different before they take that crown. They are all cut from the same cookie cutter. I think both games are going to be solid gameplay if that happens then EA is threw.

Animation is NOT better in 2k.. sorry... arenas.. yes I'll give you that!

# 25 savoie2006 @ 08/23/09 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RealmK


	I'll just come out and say it, EA adds 2k like intro's, arena's, and gets the goal horns correct, NHL2k is done, kaput, finished.

In your mind at least.

# 26 Eddie1967 @ 08/23/09 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RealmK


	I'll just come out and say it, EA adds 2k like intro's, arena's, and gets the goal horns correct, NHL2k is done, kaput, finished.

And since you feel that way (which is what I thought all along) does that mean no more endless bashing under the guise of wanting the game to be better? People have been clogging up the madden forums doing the same exact thing. You admitted that you want the series to be done and I'm glad you said that. I will keep that quote for future reference.

Back on topic, you said "once" EA adds all of those things? Well how many years does it take to even get started. I mean the series is going on what 17 18 years? Gamers like yourself don't like those things so why would they waste money on it now?

# 27 Jamin23 @ 08/23/09 12:32 PM

Having authentic arenas really does bring a game alive and 2k does a great job at that. EA's arenas in not just nhl, but nba live just feel plain and not really different along with the atmosphere. 2K arenas really make you feel like you are watching a real game with the authentic arenas and the sound effects in the arenas. EA has added the arena atmosphere in nba live and I think they should focus on it for NHL next year because the gameplay is there.

# 28 Flyermania @ 08/23/09 12:42 PM

2k just needs to improve their sales...period. You can have the prettiest areans and the best gameplay in the world, but without a solid customer base it really doesn't matter.

# 29 Keirik @ 08/23/09 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie1967


	Sales numbers? blah blah blah. Doesn't mean a thing to someone who doesn't like their product.

then why are you bringing up EA in the first place in the thread ?

# 30 Eddie1967 @ 08/23/09 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Keirik


	then why are you bringing up EA in the first place in the thread ?

I was comparing the one thing that keeps me from fully embracing EA which is their lack of presentation. I think it's a fair comparison. My point is just to mention how I feel about that, and that the sales numbers and 12 awards means nothing to me if the presentation isn't up to par.

# 31 Eddie1967 @ 08/23/09 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyermania


	2k just needs to improve their sales...period. You can have the prettiest areans and the best gameplay in the world, but without a solid customer base it really doesn't matter.

I agree. If that doesn't happen this year, then I'm not sure what else they can do. We haven't played the game yet but it looks as if they put a lot of time and effort into making many improvements in 2k10, so I would expect more people to give it a try this year.

# 32 Keirik @ 08/23/09 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottdau


	I truly believe if you make a great game, people will come. Basically I am saying "If you build it they will come."

unfortunately, not if the company doesn't go out of their way to show people how good of a product they have.

# 33 Eddie1967 @ 08/23/09 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Keirik


	unfortunately, not if the company doesn't go out of their way to show people how good of a product they have.

But how much more can they do. What would you suggest, and I ask this in all seriousness. You honestly think a few months earlier is going to sell people? It won't because those people will not give 2k a chance either way. Between EA and 2K there are those who dislike the other game for some reason or another and won't give it a chance. That's what I see anyway. All they have to do is rent it and find out for themselves. I know money is tight for some but what does it take to rent a game to see if you like it.

# 34 Ridgeberg @ 08/23/09 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie1967


	But how much more can they do. What would you suggest, and I ask this in all seriousness. You honestly think a few months earlier is going to sell people? It won't because those people will not give 2k a chance either way. Between EA and 2K there are those who dislike the other game for some reason or another and won't give it a chance. That's what I see anyway. All they have to do is rent it and find out for themselves. I know money is tight for some but what does it take to give a game a chance through renting.

You may be right, but it couldn't hurt right? I think one of the reasons that EA Sports has seen a resurgence (at least among the "sim" faithful on this board) can partly be attributed to their recent move towards transparency and engaging the consumer. You could almost call it grassroots and I would imagine that more and more companies will begin to incorporate this type of business model. 2K would be wise to engage the community on a deeper level and make them "feel apart" of development, I think EA has done this and their biggest fans have developed a great loyalty to their products. When EA offers a "behind the scenes" view and encourages their producers to interact with the community, people might begin to question why the other company isn't. People might begin to mistrust the company and wonder what they are hiding. Especially, when the company (2K in this example) has had difficulty with maintenance of their games (rosters, patches, game modes that don't always work right or deliver what they promise).

So that was a long-winded way of saying that, yes, there is more that 2K could be doing and I would expect that it absolutely could help their sales.

# 35 Eddie1967 @ 08/23/09 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ridgeberg


	You may be right, but it couldn't hurt right? I think one of the reasons that EA Sports has seen a resurgence (at least among the "sim" faithful on this board) can partly be attributed to their recent move towards transparency and engaging the consumer. You could almost call it grassroots and I would imagine that more and more companies will begin to incorporate this type of business model. 2K would be wise to engage the community on a deeper level and make them "feel apart" of development, I think EA has done this and their biggest fans have developed a great loyalty to their products. When EA offers a "behind the scenes" view and encourages their producers to interact with the community, people might begin to question why the other company isn't. People might begin to mistrust the company and wonder what they are hiding. Especially, when the company (2K in this example) has had difficulty with maintenance of their games (rosters, patches, game modes that don't always work right or deliver what they promise). So that was a long-winded way of saying that, yes, there is more that 2K could be doing and I would expect that it absolutely could help their sales.

Great post, and yes it can't hurt. I agree with the maintenance of their games, first and foremost they must address issues through patches. I'm the biggest 2k fan there is(didn't know that did you?) and it was a terrible idea not to patch the free agency issue in franchise mode last year.

# 36 Flyermania @ 08/23/09 03:09 PM

2k used to be involved heavily with the gaming community. 2k also used to crank up the marketing machine a lot earlier with "Top Shelf Tuesdays", etc. For some reason they stopped doing these things, and also let the same game-crippling bugs stay in the series year after year. And to top it all off, they cut back on post release support like rosters, much-needed patches, etc. The graphics on next-gen looked a lot like last-gen, and instead of overhauling the game engine they tried a band-aid approach and tried to milk it 2-3 years past what it should have. Add this all together and the cutomer looked for the first life boat off the Titanic.

2k needs a solid game release. They already missed the marketing boat yet again for 2k10, but they need to concentrate on supporting the game post-release. Every game will have issues, so they need to address them when they arise. EA has grabbed the casual fans and the reviewers using the same formula that got 2k to the top.

Embrace the community, market the game early and effectively, finally fix the bugs, and give post-release support. I really feel this year could go a long way to determining if this series stays afloat or finally sinks. The sales numbers will tell the story.

# 37 Flyermania @ 08/23/09 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottdau


	Word of mouth is the best publicly. Also the internet and youtube is another. If it is a great game then they will sell it!

2k will never be able to top EA as far as word of mouth goes. Look at all of the examples of game store employees recommending one over the other. 2k needs to market the game a heckuva lot better...plain and simple.

# 38 Ridgeberg @ 08/23/09 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottdau


	Sure, but if 2k goes the sim route, they will find their sales. EA will always sell more that is just how it is. Kids over 5 know EA. EA is like Disneyland every one knows them and every ones buys them.

Scott, this is what you wrote in post #17 in this thread...

"Not really but EA is going for gameplay first. Which is OK, but if they want to get more people they should go for presentation first. I have a feeling that more kids and adults would buy the game. People want a game that they can pick up and play and look good too. I am not saying all people. But in all honesty to you think the majority of video gamers want real sim or do you think that i still a minority? On here that is a majority, but in the World what do you guys think?"

I'm not really understanding your logic here.

# 39 MizzouRah @ 08/23/09 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottdau


	Disagree. The way the puck come off the stick in EA is weird. Not all the time just on some certain animations. Can't explain it, so we will just agree to disagree. I am talking moslty about NHL2K9 and NHL09. NHL10 looks like they ironed out some of those ugly ones. The puck thing is still there though.

I'm talking strictly player animations.. you could be right about the puck.

# 40 MizzouRah @ 08/23/09 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottdau


	Oh OK. I am talking about the slapshot, wrister, and so on. They look smoother too me.

I'm with you Scott.

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