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NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

03:49 PM - June 9, 2009 by monte8066

Pasta Padre has posted an article entitled, NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path.

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	"Player names and how they are dealt with in EA Sports NCAA Football series has always been a sensitive subject. While there has been discussion over the years to reach agreement with the NCAA to allow names in that has not come to fruition. The last couple versions of NCAA Football have brought about some new community based features such as the EA Locker for roster sharing and Teambuilder. The Sam Keller lawsuit may or may not directly affect what happens with NCAA Football but it does seem to coincide with a move towards a more generic-rostered game. This especially considering the rosters found on Teambuilder that apparently are the final rosters shipping with the game."

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# 81 coogrfan @ 06/10/09 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RaiderKtulu


	I love all the panic over some random speculation. Why don't you wait till something actually happens before claiming the end of civilization and/or the ncaa series?

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Originally Posted by Lava


	But it's not random speculation. If you read the article, pasta said he asked at E3 and was told the TeamBuilder rosters are those that will be in the game.

Read it again.

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	While at E3 I asked whether the rosters from Teambuilder were final and was told that they were...While I attempted to get double-verification that the rosters were final there has been no update on that which further solidifies the likelihood that they are.

PP's article is no different than the speculation we've seen here. Based on the way he phrased his 2nd statement, it also leaves some doubt as to whether he asked the only question that really matters: will the default rosters for the individual teams on the disc be identical to the ones we have already seen on the TB web app?

Pasta may well be proved 100% correct, but it has not yet been confirmed by any outside source that I'm aware of. Until it is, we're all just guessing.

# 82 Ziza9Noles94 @ 06/10/09 11:17 AM

As long as I can download what I need from the EA locker for offline and online dynasty and regular play offline, I'm cool. The sky is not falling.

# 83 Drocks @ 06/10/09 11:20 AM

The issue here is the wording, really. When they say the TeamBuilder rosters are "final".....final to what? Final to the TeamBuilder website? Or final as in this is game rosters in the game. There's just no clarity there, so everything to this point has pretty much been speculation based on this. I really wouldn't be surprised either way to be honest.

# 84 Deathblooms @ 06/10/09 11:48 AM

This really will screw up online gaming(ranked). Im not gonna get too shatty about it though unless they go totally generic and the players don't even come close to representing the real life ones.

# 85 Brandwin @ 06/10/09 11:56 AM

For the first time ever, I will probably pass on NCAA. I won't be able to pick it up on release day, so I will have a few days to see what everyone thinks.

This is truly a sad time in my video gaming life.

# 86 Security Device @ 06/10/09 12:06 PM

Is it just me or do most of the statements here affirm that most people don't understand how a video game is made? Do you really think that EA or any company works on the game 24/7 until it's release date? Does anyone factor in deadlines? I'm just guessing, but maybe the whole Roster "issue" stems from the fact that Rosters may have had to be done a few weeks to a month ago. I mean, there's 120 schools, then anywhere from 50-70 players all with different equipment. Also, has it been confirmed that there is a "team" working on this and not just 1 guy? I may be wrong, but I'm sure it's a little more complicated than plugging in attributes and facemask types. Since games are all code, I think tying in Speed = 89 is not that simple. Also, didn't someone mention in a different thread that the ratings were tweaked to make more important ratings mean more? If so, can we really bash the Roster ratings until we play it and see how it feels?

I just think there is too many people "jumping off the ship" due to a few people's speculation and more people blindly believing it to be an absolute truth.

# 87 rudyjuly2 @ 06/10/09 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dickdalewood


	What do they mean by "generic"? Es: will a team in real life that has a really good running back, have a bad running back and instead a good receiver in NCAA? Will the player ratings, etc just be completely random?

By generic, each team would be completely random. However, that is pure speculation based on the impact of the Keller lawsuit.

I know I read that EA felt that the unnamed rosters really hurts their sales. The roster vault was supposed to make it easier for gamers to get real rosters. I'm sure they would love to be able to cut a deal and put the real names in there. Going generic won't happen unless the Keller lawsuit wins imo.

# 88 rudyjuly2 @ 06/10/09 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dickdalewood


	OK so if the teams are COMPLETELY random, how would they even rank them? Just give the better teams (like Florida for example) better players? That's going to be kinda lame for people who want a Tebow-esque quarterback and get some random pocket passer for the Gators.

I'm not really sure. It's all speculation that I hope is completely false! I don't think anyone wants random teams. I'd hope if they ever went that route they would release a web based roster editor for people to fix rosters online and share them easily (and release it weeks before the game comes out).

# 89 Security Device @ 06/10/09 12:59 PM

I don't understand why this "generic" roster thing is an issue. It's complete SPECULATION. No one from EA has said anything about moving to generic rosters. And no one says generic = random.

I think the rosters are already generic. They just happen to resemble the real players for te most part by coincidence.

# 90 Security Device @ 06/10/09 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MtneerManiac


	And let's not forget the fact that we let them off the hook with that horrific, unprofessional homerism they showed in Florida State last year. Hell, they even did it this year to an extent.

I completely agree with the homerism. It's not hard to pick out who the devs favorite teams are.

# 91 DoubleDeuce @ 06/10/09 01:30 PM

I know about the NCAA rule, but it doesn't make sense. Why can ESPN plaster Tebow's face all over everything and promote their games by saying "WATCH TIM TEBOW PLAY ON ESPN SATURDAY NIGHT AND YOUR LIFE WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE 58% BETTER" but EA can't put Tim Tebow in a video game?

# 92 Hey_Rebby @ 06/10/09 01:30 PM

That's my biggest issue with having to rely on the community to provide the rosters. Is there anyone out there who is truly committed to provided 100% rosters for all teams? I am a fan of Mountain West teams and it seems like little attention was paid to those teams in the past.

Also, there is always going to be a little bit of favoritism in the rosters. They're always be guys that will have favorite teams and say "oh they didn't make the RB fast enough or there defensive line all should be ranked higher."

I used to think, back on the PS1 days, that EA did a pretty good job with rosters. They have fallen hard.

# 93 jeremym480 @ 06/10/09 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackscorpion11


	LOL Cmon Born! Rock up soldier! This is non issue now that we have team builder.. I could care less about "real" roster names, they'll be gone in 2 Dynasty seasons anyway..

WRONG!!! Two seasons?? Most people usually get 3-4 good season's with downloaded rosters. I usually get more than that. Because once I recruit my freshman for year two I see who all did not make it into the game and add them. In year three, I go to Rivals.com and look at our future commitments and add them. Therefore, I can usually get 5 decent years of real players (for my team at least)

Plus, I import my draft classes to Madden because I want to play with what?? you guessed it.... actual real life players!!!
To take the ability to download draft class would completely destroy the NCAA franchise for me and would take something away from Madden, as well, IMO.

So, while most people may not be as hardcore as me, I truly believe that your in the minority on this one.

# 94 jyoung @ 06/10/09 01:50 PM

For all the guys saying that this is going to ruin online, does this game have the same feature as College Hoops 2K8 where it keeps the player names on your roster file loaded even when you enter an online game?

That was just one of the many awesome details that helped make College Hoops such a great experience.

# 95 Hey_Rebby @ 06/10/09 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tito78


	Pasta Padre really needs to do something about his web site. My internet crashes every time I go to it. I done with it.

Me too!

# 96 sinc79 @ 06/10/09 02:29 PM

tonight i'm going to make the university of nothing. our uniforms will be all white with white stripes and white numbers. everyplayer will have the same name and the same rating. our logo will be a white square placed in the center of a white helmet. feel free to download them, i'm actually going to make an entire conference, each team with its own solid color, representing the future of this game.

# 97 KANE699 @ 06/10/09 02:31 PM

Yes im in on this generic teams for all!!!!!!!!!

# 98 Dr Death @ 06/10/09 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sinc79


	tonight i'm going to make the university of nothing. our uniforms will be all white with white stripes and white numbers. everyplayer will have the same name and the same rating. our logo will be a white square placed in the center of a white helmet. feel free to download them, i'm actually going to make an entire conference, each team with its own solid color, representing the future of this game.

In honor of this... and to ensure that your hard work doesn't go to waste, may I request an all silver team? Of the new shades of gray in the color palette, I'll take the middle one. Just normal gray.

I'd like the team based in Gary, Indiana... G-A-R-Y = G-R-A-Y... and they can be called the Gary Grays. No logo required, just a gray helmet. Much appreciated.

# 99 GetYaWeigtUp @ 06/10/09 02:56 PM

This is all so funny! Well EA will definately take a hit financially if these rosters are generic and uneditable. Cuz I know Im for sure done with it, and I've bought every game since Bill Walsh College Football.

I really just dont get it with this company, its like they purposely do things to not satisfy this community. I'm really having a hard time figuring out why these people who work on this game even still have a job. Im sure they could find 10-20 other people across this country who are just as credentialed and certified, and could produce a much better product. We go from 5 blogs on Season Showdown to generic rosters rumors? LOL! Its getting bad for this game and our community.

As someone stated earlier, the Team Builder site is making more and more since by the day! Everytime I post in this forum, I feel like Im gonna go on a 10 page rant, and I could lol! But Im leaving it alone, I'll just shutup and see how this game comes out!

# 100 SchruteFarms @ 06/10/09 02:58 PM

I hope it's not the case, but if it were to be a generic roster the only positive I can see is that it would force them to focus on Dynasty. The online ranked matches, season showdown, and just simple play now games would lose their luster.

Dynasty would have to be the focal point of the game. After 4-5 seasons the rosters become generic anyway, so perhaps we would get a Dynasty mode unlike anything that has come before.

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