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Joystiq has posted their hands-on preview of Madden NFL 10.

It's a pretty standard article, with two interesting tidbits.

1.) They mention that Madden 10 plays EXACTLY like past iterations, just with Pro-Tak. As a site that doesn't really specialize in sports gaming, I'll take that with a grain of salt. It's still worrisome.

2.) They mention that there will be an "enhanced franchise mode" and a new presentation mode called "The Emotion of the NFL". I haven't heard anything about either of these, so it is interesting.

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# 21 CreatineKasey @ 05/18/09 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by roadman
That's basically what I said in a post prior to this one you quoted, but that one goes ignored.

It slices both ways.

Yep, not directed at you. I'll acknowledge it now. My post was geared more towards the posting attitude on this forum overall, not singularly targeted at this thread alone.
 
# 22 demon_deacon @ 05/18/09 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Derrville
Thats all? Only them?
Seems like a lot keep their cards close to their chest here. I would tend to agree though - a lot of places don't know what they're talking about when it comes to sports games (see: the show.)
 
# 23 Bgamer90 @ 05/18/09 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Brnto4life
But that's why speculating is fun.

As for franchise, what have we heard? All I remember being talked about was the Inside EA Blog that simply went through updates to logic and whatnot. That doesn't strike me as "enhanced". I guess I'm just imagining some new features to franchise...
Oh I see.

Now there's going to be much more news about franchise but it has been known for a while that it was going to be "enhanced".

Anyways, in terms of the new presentation mode, it's entitled "The Emotion of the NFL." The name in itself is pretty general so I don't really know what it could be.

Since it seems like it focuses on the emotions players feel during the game I can see it being first person and maybe having stadium noise play a factor in the gameplay.

But yeah just a guess lol... it's really hard to say what it's about when all we were given is the name of the mode.
 
# 24 PantherBeast_OS @ 05/18/09 06:45 PM
Joystick is a waste of a site. People on that site is dogin this year madden. LOL these people just don't relize how good madden 10 is going to be.
 
# 25 roadman @ 05/18/09 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CreatineKasey
Yep, not directed at you. I'll acknowledge it now. My post was geared more towards the posting attitude on this forum overall, not singularly targeted at this thread alone.

I'll still say, though, that it still slices both ways. There is no middle ground.

There are the ones that are still stung by the license and the not up to par NG past Maddens vs people that have hope for Madden 10.

It just won't be one way or the other until Madden 10 is universally approved.

I just don't feel Joystick dug in deep enough to give a fair report, that's my issue.
 
# 26 demon_deacon @ 05/18/09 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pantherbeast
Joystick is a waste of a site. People on that site is dogin this year madden. LOL these people just don't relize how good madden 10 is going to be.
I agree with the first part; playing the devil's advocate, however, we don't know how good (or bad) madden will end up being. I wouldn't put it atop a pedestal quite yet.
 
# 27 kmart2180 @ 05/18/09 06:50 PM
Nobody but myself. No matter who or how someone rewiews a game it does not matter to me because the final say / review will be my own once I play the game. Why do so many people rely on other people's opinion's is beyond me. I will know how the game plays when I play the game and its as simple as that.

If you dont want to buy the game but want to review it. Well then rent it.

Everybody has there own opinion on what they want and how it plays. So how can you take anyone's word on it but your own is how I feel. Although it is nice to hear all the things the OS "8" have liked/ disliked about the game and would trust their words 1st to any site out there. But you should not have to rely on there words alone to help you make up your mind. Buy or rent it (again simple). The game may be better to you than to(joeblow) Or it might be worst to u than to (joeblow).
 
# 28 cedwebb @ 05/18/09 06:52 PM
Well guys there is really no need to getcha pannies all in a bunch. We all have heard that anyone who has gotten their hands on this game besides the CD guys has only played this game on the lowest levels. We also know that on the lowest levels the game speeds are extremely different. We also know that there has been reviews from other sites saying that they were able to just run backward and launch the ball on the lower levels. We also know that this game isn't done yet. Just saying!

What I really want to know is what the heck is "the emotion of the NFL"? that has got me really curious, cant wait till E3.
 
# 29 CreatineKasey @ 05/18/09 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kmart2180
Nobody but myself. No matter who or how someone rewiews a game it does not matter to me because the final say / review will be my own once I play the game. Why do so many people rely on other people's opinion's is beyond me. I will know how the game plays when I play the game and its as simple as that.

If you dont want to buy the game but want to review it. Well then rent it.

Everybody has there own opinion on what they want and how it plays. So how can you take anyone's word on it but your own is how I feel. Although it is nice to hear all the things the OS "8" have liked/ disliked about the game and would trust their words 1st to any site out there. But you should not have to rely on there words alone to help you make up your mind. Buy or rent it (again simple). The game may be better to you than to(joeblow) Or it might be worst to u than to (joeblow).

Good point. We are the ones who actually have to like it right?! I mean if I love the game but 90% of people hate it does that really matter? I weight my optimism based on the opinions of individuals who I imagine are somewhat like-minded to me and are looking for the same thing in the game that I am. So for me I read closely people who really got into gameplay, but basically ignore opinions on cleat colors and other non-gameplay aspects. Again this is just for me.
 
# 30 roadman @ 05/18/09 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Derrville
theres alot of Jerks here man.
Don't feel that was warranted, man.
 
# 31 PlatooN @ 05/18/09 07:02 PM
this ain't about what site is dependable for sports gaming news. I want to hear more about this "Enhanced Franchise" and the "presentation mode"...sounds intriguing...kind of a tease tho..WAT DOES IT ALL MEAN!?!?!?!
 
# 32 trufootball @ 05/18/09 07:22 PM
they didn't seem like they were too impressed with the game...
 
# 33 Netherscourge @ 05/18/09 07:24 PM
Well, they are approaching the game from a skeptical point of view - many people are still skeptical about the game's "fun factor" - me included.

I respect that.

There has been a lot of fanboyism lately and it's refreshing to see the other side of things.

I look at everything equally - to simply dismiss this because it doesn't kiss the developer's asses is rather naive.
 
# 34 SageInfinite @ 05/18/09 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Brnto4life
After playing NBA 2K9 recently for the first time, I'm PRAYING that this "Emotions of the Game" presentation mode will come close to matching that.

I was blown away by how much it felt like I was watching a real NBA broadcast while I was playing 2K9. The pre-game, overlays, commentary, and replays all felt broadcast-ready and it really sucks you into the game. Hopefully the football dev teams at EA Sports are moving in that direction.
Yea I'd love to get a football version of NBA 2K9's presentation as far as camera work and replays are concerned. I think they should end quarters network style like NBA 2k9 does.
 
# 35 Hova57 @ 05/18/09 07:35 PM
we r lucky to be on a site that is so interested in sports games. we know more than the average sport gamer cause they dont know operation sports is always referred as "os" so some dont know about this site
 
# 36 Netherscourge @ 05/18/09 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Brnto4life
After playing NBA 2K9 recently for the first time, I'm PRAYING that this "Emotions of the Game" presentation mode will come close to matching that.

I was blown away by how much it felt like I was watching a real NBA broadcast while I was playing 2K9. The pre-game, overlays, commentary, and replays all felt broadcast-ready and it really sucks you into the game. Hopefully the football dev teams at EA Sports are moving in that direction.


I hope so too - but it seems like it's not going to get there yet. I mean, they're still dragging their feet about extra camera angles... The fact that they had to post a thread with a Poll asking our opinions means they dont' really feel like working on it for some strange reason... as if the poll was to try and justify NOT wanting to work on it.

But they do the easy stuff like cleat colors for the freaks who make noise about it.

How can you have "Emotion of the NFL" if you don't have a TV-style Broadcast camera as an option?

I don't know... hopefully, E3 will reveal everything and some surprises. At this point, I'm 100 % focused on presentation and I don't even care about game modes or anymore gameplay gimmicks. Gameplay can get boring too if it's not spiced up with solid presentation.
 
# 37 NYyankz225 @ 05/18/09 07:44 PM
I think it's funny that some people are questioning why we don't trust places like IGN for noticing the improvements that were made.

In case you don't remember, these are the same places that gave past Maddens 8's and 9's. Games that most of us would say have significant faults. Yet now, because they are saying something somewhat negative, we should all believe that their opinions are valid? I think it's just that some people like Derrville want to go against the grain. You can bet if IGN or this site had given Madden 10 a glowing preview we would be hearing about how past reviews were so inflated and they can't be trusted. Yet now we should listen because they have a few negative (and inaccurate according to the CD guys) things to say.

Fact is EVERYBODY is "biased" on both sides of the fence. That's life. You just have to sort out the subjective comments that are made and make your own decision based on the objective information there is.
 
# 38 Bgamer90 @ 05/18/09 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Netherscourge

I look at everything equally - to simply dismiss this because it doesn't kiss the developer's asses is rather naive.
None of the previews have "kissed developers".

Just because this wasn't positive isn't the reason many are talking bad about it (well at least it's true for me). It was the manner in which the things were being said and also the things themselves that were being said such as "they aren't doing nothing new to the gameplay " which is practically a lie (even if you don't like the gameplay, to say that they aren't doing anything to it is just wrong...).

Tie that in with nothing that in depth and a bunch of EA "money hungry cash cow" talk, the preview overall was just pretty bad in my opinion and again, not because it wasn't positive, but because of the way it was handled.
 
# 39 TheWatcher @ 05/18/09 07:46 PM
The magazines say silly stuff every year about Madden. A number of them praised Madden 08 as "the one"... the generation-defining Madden. a couple huge mags gave that game a 9.0. I just saw a recent article where some reviewers from the big mags were putting Madden 08 on it's all-time Madden great's list... But Madden 08 was flaming garbage as it was a broken mess with weak graphics... I can't even respect a reviewers view on football games after they've put that piece of junk in high esteem.

My point is that the magazines for the most part have very casual players reviewing these football games. They don't look for all the little nuances nor do they care. They don't care about the stuff we care about. So it's not a stretch to fathom that they wouldn't pick up on the difference in feel between 09 and 10... well, I think something would have to be wrong with a person's nervous system to not pick up on it, but given the mags track records on Madden reviews I can still believe they'd miss it. But when I tell you they're wrong, they're so dead wrong... they've become dust blown away in the wind; that's how dead wrong they are about this. If it weren't for their track records, I'd actually be stunned at hearing them say this. The only way they could be right is if EA completely changed everything about how the players moved, gamespeed, etc. since we left, and I sincerely doubt that happened.

Bottom line, when you get the game you'll see that it does feel different and does not play the same just in terms of feel alone... and it's tweakable to your liking. And nothing influenced me to feel that way, lol. I can tell the difference between a game that defied the laws of physics on every down (Madden 09) to one with weight and momentum playing a factor (Madden 10) and if didn't I would've said so. I spent all Winter talking about this and it was at the top of my agenda for Community Day.

I have nothing to lose by being truthful and nothing to gain by pretending. It is what it is and you'll see August 14th.
 
# 40 Bgamer90 @ 05/18/09 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by grunt
Gaming sites are finally developing the courage to criticize Madden but they are doing the criticism 5 years too late. Finally Madden is heading in the right direction and the critics are bringing heat. Where were these same critics when Madden was really bad but they were still giving the game the mandatory high review scores.
Yeah.

Strange isn't it?
 


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