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The King of Gameplay and Ruler of the Online Domain

09:05 PM - November 11, 2008 by RaychelSnr

Few sports games last more than a year.

The ones that do live past that expectancy rate (Tecmo Super Bowl, MVP Baseball 2005, NFL 2K5, et al.) survive because they have something unique about them -- something that no other sports game on the market can offer.

Aside from its stellar gameplay, in-depth customization and balanced team-building system, the one thing that has allowed All-Pro Football 2K8 to maintain its position as the game of choice for many die-hard football fans is the strong community that has formed around its online leagues.

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Member Comments

# 21 TheShizNo1 @ 11/12/08 02:00 PM

Where the hell are all you guys at when I'm looking in the lobby?

# 22 jyoung @ 11/12/08 02:19 PM

I can't speak for everyone else, but the reason I'm never in the lobbies is because 2K has separate lobbies for leagues, and league games are all I play these days.

I can't even remember the last time I played a regular lobby game. It's probably been close to a year.

But because the leagues are so active, I still manage to play about three or four games a week, and they are usually all great experiences.

I gave up on lobby games once I realized that most of the lobby players are cheesers and/or poor sports. They stick to the lobbies because none of the leagues will ever accept them.

To find the good games these days, you really need to either be in a league or be playing against some friends.

I think we've reached a point in the game's life-cycle where the leagues may actually be more active than "normal" lobbies because the guys who are still playing the game are in it for the "simulation" football experience, not just to boost the ranking next to their gamertag at any cost necessary.

# 23 Danimal @ 11/12/08 04:17 PM

Shallow single player experience and it also has issues in single player a lot of people fail to discuss. As an online game it is stellar there is nothing that comes close, but not everyone plays online. A fact I think learned by 2K since this game tanked so fast because of the lack of Single player longevity.

I know that's not the popular thing to say in this thread but that's how I feel. I'd rather play 2K5 even though graphically it is really showing it's age.

# 24 RedskinsGM2B @ 11/12/08 04:27 PM

As an owner of 2 copies of 2K5, I have ONE question...How can I get into this league when I get back from buying 2K8, yet again?? In...2 minutes. LOL No, really...

# 25 RogueHominid @ 11/12/08 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedskinsGM2B


	As an owner of 2 copies of 2K5, I have ONE question...How can I get into this league when I get back from buying 2K8, yet again?? In...2 minutes. LOL No, really...

Friend me--Tommy Trojan 42. We can play any time you like.

# 26 cpannkuk @ 11/12/08 04:43 PM

Just purchased at lunch for $9.99 due to the article I read and was wondering other than that unbelievable league I read about that I'm sure never has openings, is there ever any other leagues that open up that would consider a noob like me??

# 27 NFLHITMAN @ 11/12/08 04:54 PM

Here is post I made a while ago. We will always give noobs a shot as long as the go by the Rules of the league. Here is the post........

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zapalac

Quote:

Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zapalac

Trying to find those that prefer outsmarting their opponent rather than running hurry up offense and the same 3 plays with a 5 CAP HB/WR.

I don't care bout W/L record - just want to have an enjoyable game that at the end, even in a LOSS, you know that you just got out smarted with play calling - not BS. Let them go play BLITZ 8O

Let the flames begin

They reside in online leagues where SIM rules are a way of life in the league. Sure you are going to find some unsim players slip through the cracks but for the most part in all the leagues I run it is pretty much the same bunch of SIM players with some newbies sprinkled in. If you want a SIM experience than join one of our leagues.

OK... I'll bite - how do I join?

Simple look for the next thread posting about sign ups. There are plenty of league to choose from but most of them are located at www.2ksports.com in the APF league forums. Here are a few for you to think about.

NFLP ran by FLAxWLESS - This is a progression league that is just like having a franchise mode. Players are graded on there season and if they don't make the bench mark to be in a certain tier than they lose that tier. Example.... If you have the Jaguars and you make Fred Taylor a Gold RB than he has to hit the stats set fourth for a Gold RB or be dropped down to a silver. There are trades, Rookie drafts, FA pickups. Very complex but very much like the franchise mode this game doesn't have.

NFL 2K8 ran by amid/tjspeaks - This league is the most lenient on player tiers but is very strict on playing all 16 games of your season. You pick any NFL team that is available and you can use anyone on that team anywhere you would want them to be. If you want to make a backup QB on that team your Gold QB than you can. Gold players are limited to 3 attributes only even if you have unlocked the 5 attribute golds.

CFL ran by Brownster14 - This is a College football league with all the trimmings. Preseason polls, Heisman Award along with all other awards, Post season rankings to determine who gets into the Bowl games. This is your college football game in a pro game. Very fun league.

Dynasty Legends ran by NFLHITMAN - This is a draft league with the legends the game came with along with the legends they didn't come with using my CAP list. You will get a an email letting you know what spot you landed in the draft. the draft is serpentine draft order where the 1st guy in a round would be last in the next round. You can draft a Lawrence Taylor, Jim Brown or the players this game came with. We are currently in season 9 with season 10 coming soon. All the legends in my CAP list all have predetermined attributes listed for them along with there height, weight, college, B-Day. If you draft a Lawrence Taylor than you would have to make him the height, weight, and attributes that was listed for him in my CAP list.

DOOMS DAY DEFENSE ran by NFLHITMAN - This league is based on the Defensive side of the ball. You have to have 6 players as defensive players and all your Gold and Silver tier players have to be Defensive players. You can have more than 6 on defense but you must have at least 6. You can use any player the game came with or players from my CAP list. If you like defense than this league is for you.

Americas Game ran by NFLHITMAN - This league is based solely on any team that has made it to the Superbowl. They didn't have to win but they had to play in the Big Game. This is where you will see the 1965 Green Bay Packers play the 1995 Dallas Cowboys. You use the legends that came with the game than you create the rest of the pl,ayers you need to complete the Superbowl team you are using. Inspired by NFL Network's on going show Americas Game.

All the league are Simulation leagues with strict rules for SIM play. If your someone who will use every trick in the book to win than these leagues won't work for you. If your someone who wants a NFL type of feel than these leagues are for you. Here are the links to those threads to each league along with my league rules and CAP list for you to look at.

SIM rules link -- http://online.2ksports.com/league/ne...l=32555&n=1915

CAP list link -- http://online.2ksports.com/league/ne...l=32555&n=1915

NFL 2K8 link -- http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191868

NFLP link -- http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192641

Americas Game link -- http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186512

DDD link -- http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191460

Dynasty Legends link -- http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185631

CFL link -- http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/mo...ewtopic&t=2460

If you are interested in joining one of these SIM league than send a message to the admin's of those leagues or post in those thread your Feedback and Gamertag so we can send you a message for the next opening.

My 360 Gamertag is NFLHITMAN so send me a friends request with a message fo what you want and I will look forward to adding you to my leagues when an opening or a new season is coming.

# 28 NFLHITMAN @ 11/12/08 04:58 PM

I am currently taking sign ups for Americas Game II. Here is my post over at 2Ksports.

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/ne...APF2K8&l=34585

NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

Birdman1702 - 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs:

G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus
G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip
S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence
S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle
B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk
B: John Lynch FS - Footsteps
B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage
B: Mike Alstott RB - Power
B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver

Bowdown - Dallas Cowboys 93

G: HB Emmit Smith
G: Michael Irving- see hitman list
S: QB Aikman - Pocket presense, Leadership
S: OLB D Ewdards - Quick Feet, Ball Hawk
S: CB Kevin Smith- Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
B: TE Novacek - Possession WR
B: SS D Woodson - Coverage
B: WR Alvin Harper
B: CB Larry Brown - Ball Hawk
B: FS Bill Gates- Ball Hawk
B: ILB K Norton

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Strength Bonus, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers:

G: Willy Wood FS

G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops)
S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet)
S: QB Bart Starr
S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed)
B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches)
B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands)
B: Don Chandler K (power)
B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk)
B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed)
B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1991 Buffalo Bills:

G: Thurman Thomas RB
G: James Lofton WR
S: Jim Kelly QB - Quick Release, Laser Arm
S: Andre Reed WR
S: Darryl Talley OLB - Ball Hawk, Speed Burner
B: Pete Metzelaars TE
B: Shane Conlan ILB - Strength Bonus
B: Cornelius Bennett OLB - Wrap up Tackler
B: Nate Odomes CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Mark kelso FS/SS - Leadership Bonus
B: Kirby Jackson CB - Closing Speed

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders:

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

turtl83 2004 Philadelphia Eagles:

G: Donovan McNabb QB (Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?)
G: Terrell Owens WR (Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster)
S: Brian Westbrook RB (Soft Hands,BAB)
S: Jevon Kearse DE (Pass Rush,Rip)
S: Brian Dawkins FS (Big Hit,Leadership)
B: Jeremiah Trotter ILB (Closing Speed)
B: Lito Sheppard CB (Coverage Bonus)
B: Michael Lewis SS (Run Coverage)
B: Dhani Jones OLB (Run Coverage)
B: Todd Pinkston WR ( Quick Feet )<-- He was a horrible WR so only attribute I would give him is quick feet.
B: Sheldon Brown CB (Wrap up tackler)

2006 Colts - The Overachiever

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Magic Feet, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Cato June (Run Coverage)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Spin)

Benedictine - 2003 Panthers team:

G: Stephen Davis RB ( Secure Ball Bonus, Quick Feet, Strength Bonus, Power, Break Away Burst )
G: Deon Grant SS ( Ball Hawk, Closing Speed, Footsteps, Cover Bonus, Quick Feet )

S: Jake Delhomme QB ( Leadership Bonus, Rocket arm )
S: Mike Rucker DE ( Quick Feet, Strength Bonus )
S: Steve Smith WR ( Acrobatic Catch, Speed Burner )

B: Muhsin Muhammid WR ( Acrobatic Catch )
B: Rick Manning JR CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Reggie Howard CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: WIll Witherspoon OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Kris Jenkins DT ( Pass Rush Bonus )
B: Mike Minter FS ( Speed Burner )

El Greazy - 1968 NY Jets:

G | Namath (QB) | Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch
G | Sauer (WR) | 1st team All Pro + Pro Bowl + better stats than Maynard that year (CAP: possession receiver build)

S | Maynard (WR) | in game
S | Snell (RB) | in game
S | Phillbin (DE) | CAP pass rush build

B | Elliott (DT) | CAP Pass rush build
B | Atkinson (LB)
B | Sample (CB)
B | Beverly (CB)
B | Hudson (S)
B | Baird (S)

Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

# 29 bobbysco13 @ 11/12/08 07:50 PM

1999-2000 Warner/Faulk led Rams...........Building my roster tonight!!! gamertag is bobschofield13

# 30 texbuk84 @ 11/12/08 11:03 PM

how do i get into the league

# 31 NFLHITMAN @ 11/12/08 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbysco13


	1999-2000 Warner/Faulk led Rams...........Building my roster tonight!!! gamertag is bobschofield13

Sweet! Post your team using the guidelines above. I need to see how you guys make your team and the attributes you are giving them. As you see above there are plenty of teams and most of there teams and attributes are posted.

# 32 NFLHITMAN @ 11/12/08 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwil5050


	how do i get into the league

Select a team not used so far. It has to be a team that either made it the Superbowl or the Championship Games before the Superbowl was invented. Post your players and the attributes you are going to give them.

Make sure you take a look at league rules also so we are all on the same page.

# 33 NFLHITMAN @ 11/12/08 11:52 PM

Here is our APF 2K8 Anthem. Check it out

http://www.myspace.com/2kgridironleague

# 34 Mezy 456 @ 11/13/08 01:52 AM

I think maybe it's time I joined a league....

# 35 NFLHITMAN @ 11/13/08 10:08 PM

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/ne...APF2K8&l=34585

NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

DTRAIN53 - 1994 San Francisco 49ers:

G: Jerry Rice
G: CB Deion Sanders (Speed Burner, Return Specialist, Quick Feet, Coverage Bonus, Ball Hawk)
S: QB Steve Young (Srambler, Laser Arm)
S: Brent Jones
S: FS Merton Hanks (Ball Hawk, ???)
B: Ken Norton Jr.
B: Gary Plummer
B: RB Ricky Waters (Soft Hands)
B: CB Eric Davis (Quick Feet)
B: S Tim McDonald (Coverage?)
B: John Taylor

Birdman1702 - 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs:

G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus
G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip
S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence
S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle
B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk
B: John Lynch FS - Footsteps
B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage
B: Mike Alstott RB - Power
B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver

Bowdown - Dallas Cowboys 93

G: HB Emmit Smith
G: Michael Irving
S: QB Aikman - Pocket presense, Leadership
S: OLB D Ewdards - Quick Feet, Ball Hawk
S: CB Kevin Smith- Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
B: TE Novacek - Possession WR
B: SS D Woodson - Coverage
B: WR Alvin Harper
B: CB Larry Brown - Ball Hawk
B: FS Bill Gates- Ball Hawk
B: ILB K Norton

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Strength Bonus, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers:

G: Willy Wood FS
G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops)
S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet)
S: QB Bart Starr
S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed)
B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches)
B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands)
B: Don Chandler K (power)
B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk)
B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed)
B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1990 NY Giants:

G: Lawrence Taylor OLB
G: Everson Walls CB
S: Mark Bavarro TE - Bull Dozer, Tough in the Middle
S: Ottis Anderson RB
S: Erik Howard DT - Strength Bonus, Rip
B: Jeff Hostetler QB
B: Pepper Johnson ILB
B: Carl Banks OLB
B: Dave Megget RB
B: Leonard Marshall DE
B: William Richards G/T - Bull Dozer

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders:

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

turtl83 2004 Philadelphia Eagles:

G: Donovan McNabb QB (Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?)
G: Terrell Owens WR (Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster)
S: Brian Westbrook RB (Soft Hands,BAB)
S: Jevon Kearse DE (Pass Rush,Rip)
S: Brian Dawkins FS (Big Hit,Leadership)
B: Jeremiah Trotter ILB (Closing Speed)
B: Lito Sheppard CB (Coverage Bonus)
B: Michael Lewis SS (Run Coverage)
B: Dhani Jones OLB (Run Coverage)
B: Todd Pinkston WR ( Quick Feet )<-- He was a horrible WR so only attribute I would give him is quick feet.
B: Sheldon Brown CB (Wrap up tackler)

2006 Colts - The Overachiever

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Magic Feet, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Cato June (Run Coverage)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Spin)

Benedictine - 2003 Panthers team:

G: Stephen Davis RB ( Secure Ball Bonus, Quick Feet, Strength Bonus, Power, Break Away Burst )
G: Deon Grant SS ( Ball Hawk, Closing Speed, Footsteps, Cover Bonus, Quick Feet )

S: Jake Delhomme QB ( Leadership Bonus, Rocket arm )
S: Mike Rucker DE ( Quick Feet, Strength Bonus )
S: Steve Smith WR ( Acrobatic Catch, Speed Burner )

B: Muhsin Muhammid WR ( Acrobatic Catch )
B: Rick Manning JR CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Reggie Howard CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: WIll Witherspoon OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Kris Jenkins DT ( Pass Rush Bonus )
B: Mike Minter FS ( Speed Burner )

El Greazy - 1968 NY Jets:

G | Namath (QB) | Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch
G | Sauer (WR) | 1st team All Pro + Pro Bowl + better stats than Maynard that year (CAP: possession receiver build)

S | Maynard (WR) | in game
S | Snell (RB) | in game
S | Phillbin (DE) | CAP pass rush build

B | Elliott (DT) | CAP Pass rush build
B | Atkinson (LB)
B | Sample (CB)
B | Beverly (CB)
B | Hudson (S)
B | Baird (S)

Aquick Assasin - 1999 STL. Rams:

Gold
HB- Marshall Faulk- Quick Feet, Cut Back, Soft Hands, Finesse, Clutch
QB- Kurt Warner- Quick Release, Laser Arm, Leadership Bonus, Pocket Presence, Clutch

Silver
WR- Torry Holt- Deep Threat, Break Away Burst
WR-Isaac Bruce- Soft Hands, Tough in the Middle
CB- Dexter McCleo- Ball Hawk, Coverage Bonus (8 ints)

Bronze
WR- Az-Zahir Hakim- Speed Burner (Punt Returner)
WR- Ricky Proehl- Clutch
DE- Kevin Carter (10 sacks)- Rip Move
DE- Grant Wistrom (11 sacks)- Club
LB- Landon Fletcher- Leadership Bonus
CB- Todd Lygh- Ball Hawk

Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

# 36 NFLHITMAN @ 11/13/08 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbysco13


	1999-2000 Warner/Faulk led Rams...........Building my roster tonight!!! gamertag is bobschofield13

Looks like someone beat you to the punch. You can take the 2000 Rams who lost to the Patriots. You just have to be in the big game not win it.

# 37 NFLHITMAN @ 11/14/08 04:12 AM

Here is a nice highlight reels of APF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQJLkaSKUf8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ7nGm5KyVU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePnxQ92SSFo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFkqIHfsPx4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMSmWH0yzlQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT54MX820Ks

# 38 Rocky @ 11/14/08 12:22 PM

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	I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game! Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him. Banned attributes for your CAPs Branching Tackles Workhorse Route God Signal Stealer Cadence You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player. If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player. When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight. http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm Link to league rules........... http://online.2ksports.com/league/ne...APF2K8&l=34585 NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys: G: Roger Staubach QB G: Randy White DT S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE S: Drew Pearson WR S: Billy Joe Dupree TE B: Charlie Waters SS B: Harvey Martin DE B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch ) B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader ) B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner ) B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk ) DTRAIN53 - 1994 San Francisco 49ers: G: Jerry Rice G: CB Deion Sanders (Speed Burner, Return Specialist, Quick Feet, Coverage Bonus, Ball Hawk) S: QB Steve Young (Srambler, Laser Arm) S: Brent Jones S: FS Merton Hanks (Ball Hawk, ???) B: Ken Norton Jr. B: Gary Plummer B: RB Ricky Waters (Soft Hands) B: CB Eric Davis (Quick Feet) B: S Tim McDonald (Coverage?) B: John Taylor Birdman1702 - 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs: G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk B: John Lynch FS - Footsteps B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage B: Mike Alstott RB - Power B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver Bowdown - Dallas Cowboys 93 G: HB Emmit Smith G: Michael Irving S: QB Aikman - Pocket presense, Leadership S: OLB D Ewdards - Quick Feet, Ball Hawk S: CB Kevin Smith- Closing Speed, Ball Hawk B: TE Novacek - Possession WR B: SS D Woodson - Coverage B: WR Alvin Harper B: CB Larry Brown - Ball Hawk B: FS Bill Gates- Ball Hawk B: ILB K Norton NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears: G: Mike Singletary ILB G: Walter Payton RB S: Dan Hampton DT S: Richard Dent DE - Strength Bonus, Club S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk B: Otis Wilson OLB B: William Perry DT B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm B: Willie Gault WR tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers: G: Willy Wood FS G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops) S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet) S: QB Bart Starr S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed) B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches) B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands) B: Don Chandler K (power) B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk) B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed) B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus) twosilk32811 - 1990 NY Giants: G: Lawrence Taylor OLB G: Everson Walls CB S: Mark Bavarro TE - Bull Dozer, Tough in the Middle S: Ottis Anderson RB S: Erik Howard DT - Strength Bonus, Rip B: Jeff Hostetler QB B: Pepper Johnson ILB B: Carl Banks OLB B: Dave Megget RB B: Leonard Marshall DE B: William Richards G/T - Bull Dozer FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders: G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception ) G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands ) S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands ) S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver ) S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus ) B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches ) B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus ) B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk ) B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage ) B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus ) B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed ) turtl83 2004 Philadelphia Eagles: G: Donovan McNabb QB (Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?) G: Terrell Owens WR (Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster) S: Brian Westbrook RB (Soft Hands,BAB) S: Jevon Kearse DE (Pass Rush,Rip) S: Brian Dawkins FS (Big Hit,Leadership) B: Jeremiah Trotter ILB (Closing Speed) B: Lito Sheppard CB (Coverage Bonus) B: Michael Lewis SS (Run Coverage) B: Dhani Jones OLB (Run Coverage) B: Todd Pinkston WR ( Quick Feet )<-- He was a horrible WR so only attribute I would give him is quick feet. B: Sheldon Brown CB (Wrap up tackler) 2006 Colts - The Overachiever QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm) WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Magic Feet, Quick Feet,) SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet) WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches) DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin) HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse) TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst) OLB - Cato June (Run Coverage) CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet) CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master) DE - Robert Mathis(Spin) Benedictine - 2003 Panthers team: G: Stephen Davis RB ( Secure Ball Bonus, Quick Feet, Strength Bonus, Power, Break Away Burst ) G: Deon Grant SS ( Ball Hawk, Closing Speed, Footsteps, Cover Bonus, Quick Feet ) S: Jake Delhomme QB ( Leadership Bonus, Rocket arm ) S: Mike Rucker DE ( Quick Feet, Strength Bonus ) S: Steve Smith WR ( Acrobatic Catch, Speed Burner ) B: Muhsin Muhammid WR ( Acrobatic Catch ) B: Rick Manning JR CB ( Coverage Bonus ) B: Reggie Howard CB ( Coverage Bonus ) B: WIll Witherspoon OLB ( Coverage Bonus ) B: Kris Jenkins DT ( Pass Rush Bonus ) B: Mike Minter FS ( Speed Burner ) El Greazy - 1968 NY Jets: G \| Namath (QB) \| Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch G \| Sauer (WR) \| 1st team All Pro + Pro Bowl + better stats than Maynard that year (CAP: possession receiver build) S \| Maynard (WR) \| in game S \| Snell (RB) \| in game S \| Phillbin (DE) \| CAP pass rush build B \| Elliott (DT) \| CAP Pass rush build B \| Atkinson (LB) B \| Sample (CB) B \| Beverly (CB) B \| Hudson (S) B \| Baird (S) Aquick Assasin - 1999 STL. Rams: Gold HB- Marshall Faulk- Quick Feet, Cut Back, Soft Hands, Finesse, Clutch QB- Kurt Warner- Quick Release, Laser Arm, Leadership Bonus, Pocket Presence, Clutch Silver WR- Torry Holt- Deep Threat, Break Away Burst WR-Isaac Bruce- Soft Hands, Tough in the Middle CB- Dexter McCleo- Ball Hawk, Coverage Bonus (8 ints) Bronze WR- Az-Zahir Hakim- Speed Burner (Punt Returner) WR- Ricky Proehl- Clutch DE- Kevin Carter (10 sacks)- Rip Move DE- Grant Wistrom (11 sacks)- Club LB- Landon Fletcher- Leadership Bonus CB- Todd Lygh- Ball Hawk Some Americas Game videos........... http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

This sounds pretty sweet. Let me get those '91 Skins.

# 39 RedskinsGM2B @ 11/14/08 07:37 PM

Better YET, I'd like to enter the 82-83 'Skins. Riggo BABY! Darrell Green!

# 40 NFLHITMAN @ 11/14/08 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky


	This sounds pretty sweet. Let me get those '91 Skins.

OK no problem. This will be starting this Saturday so if your going to join I need your team posted with the tiers and attributes of the players you will make ASAP. I also need your 360 gamertag.

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