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NCAA Designers Step Up to the Plate

01:14 PM - July 21, 2008 by RaychelSnr

For what seems like an eternity, EA football gamers have been clamoring for more interaction with the developers of NCAA Football and Madden. This year, those gamers got their wish. Check out how the developers handled the pressure in Erik Westfall's article, NCAA Designers Step Up to the Plate.

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	"In a growing trend around the internet, a number of video game developers and designers are making their presences known on various community forums. EA Sports has done this for a number of years, most notably through Ian Cummings and more recently Phil Frazier. Well we have a newcomer to the arena - Adam Thompson (OMT on the OS forums)."

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# 41 bjf1377 @ 07/22/08 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kwanchangkang


	Dude, You should go back and read all the posts again. Peeps are not PO'd that EA is finally posting. We are all criticizing the way OS staffers and this website are falling over themselves to praise EA like they just invented sliced bread. 2K games has been posting on the boards for years, but I have never EVER seen them get the full treatment EA has gotten these past few months.

That's because no one is going after the 2kSports devs. They come in and they aren't going to face much criticism because their games have been well received. But the moment the EA devs come here, they automatically have a target on their backs. It's like sending a diplomat into a hostile environment: they need more protection than the 2k guys do.

# 42 bjf1377 @ 07/22/08 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by iag04ho


	Article would have made sense if it went a little something like this NCAA Designers Step Up to the Plate....refund customers for defective product.

Well yes, if the game didn't work or damaged the system, then yes it'd be defective. But to you, just because it has bugs like EVERY OTHER SPORTS GAME THAT HAS COME OUT, it is "defective" and you feel entitled because they didn't make a perfect game

# 43 GHUGHES @ 07/22/08 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjake62505


	Video games and exclusive licenses must be a great business to get into, could you imagine selling broken cars, refridgerators, stoves, or girl scout cookies. And telling the customer that you are working on it. When you get them home just hook them up to the internet and you can download a patch, when we get one done. Thank you for your money, oh and don't forget to come back next year and we will sell you another broken item. What? You dont like that, oh we are sorry but we are the only company who has the license to produce that product. Have a nice day, don't forget we have a couple guys on message boards who will answer questions for you.

# 44 cbgatorade0202 @ 07/22/08 09:54 AM

It is definatly pretty hard to agree with this topic. Stepping up to the plate? Don't put the game for sale if your not going to make it right. What i'm not understanding is what about the guys that don't have online play? There big time screwed.

# 45 fishepa @ 07/22/08 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kwanchangkang


	Dude, You should go back and read all the posts again. Peeps are not PO'd that EA is finally posting. We are all criticizing the way OS staffers and this website are falling over themselves to praise EA like they just invented sliced bread. 2K games has been posting on the boards for years, but I have never EVER seen them get the full treatment EA has gotten these past few months. It's been a constant ramp up of EA hype since the SPring. Everytime I log on to the front page, I see another EA puff piece. What the hell happened to OS? So FISHEPA now your calling your customers 'pathetic' and 'obsessed' heh? That's really great and professional. Are you really a staffer or are you a little brother who is on the wrong computer? I have been a member here since '02 and this is the first time that a Mod has blatantly come out and name-called a whole group of members. Since you can't BAN yourself, I'm guessing you'll ban me. Or delete this post.

It IS pathetic and people are OBSESSED. There is a big difference between calling a specific person pathetic and calling their actions pathetic. If you don't understand the difference then I don't know what to tell you.

I think its great that the developers are still here after everyone throws them under the bus. It would be easy for them to just leave and never come back. I have faith they will listen to us and fix what they are able to. No game has ever come out and been perfect before, which is what everyone expects.

# 46 rudyjuly2 @ 07/22/08 10:40 AM

I love the fact that these guys are here AND that they haven't disappeared after the release of the game and some criticism.

# 47 fishepa @ 07/22/08 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rudyjuly2


	I love the fact that these guys are here AND that they haven't disappeared after the release of the game and some criticism.

Me too and I think that was the whole point of the article. Unfortunately you can't please everyone...

# 48 rudyjuly2 @ 07/22/08 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fishepa


	Me too and I think that was the whole point of the article. Unfortunately you can't please everyone...

There are some that can never be pleased. I swear if Jessica Simpson popped out of a birthday cake naked, some of these guys would say "I prefer brunettes".

# 49 muggins @ 07/22/08 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fishepa


	It IS pathetic and people are OBSESSED. There is a big difference between calling a specific person pathetic and calling their actions pathetic. If you don't understand the difference then I don't know what to tell you. I think its great that the developers are still here after everyone throws them under the bus. It would be easy for them to just leave and never come back. I have faith they will listen to us and fix what they are able to. No game has ever come out and been perfect before, which is what everyone expects.

They're here because they screwed up and they know it. I wish my clients rationalized stuff as much as some of you dudes do

# 50 fishepa @ 07/22/08 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PlyrzNumber1


	The People come to OS for objective opinions about sports games. When peoples threads get locked, or comments get deleted when somebody has something critical to say about NCAA '09, it erodes the credibility of the site and brand.

Again, people can do this, but it must be done in a mature manner, and that is the problem with 80% of the people.

# 51 bkrich83 @ 07/22/08 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by fishepa


	Again, people can do this, but it must be done in a mature manner, and that is the problem with 80% of the people.

Unfortunately I think that's a point that you will never get across to certain people. They'd rather toss silly insults and run with conspiracy theories. It's what happens when people think they are completely anonymous.

# 52 fistofrage @ 07/22/08 11:54 AM

Bottom line, I could care less if the developers interact with us or not. I know they read our posts, and I really don't care what they have to say other than the clear game flaws will be fixed or not be fixed. Its been like this for years, they get loads of free beta testing and research and choose whether or not to use it to improve the game.

In fact I'd rather have them say nothing at all than tell us to stop with the "knee-jerk" reactions and that we unanimously are happy with the game. Thats just silly. Its like they are trying to brainwash us into thinking we like the game.

Its the same as me trying to feed my daughter cauliflower the other night. I don't really know how to make it, it tastes pretty bad, but I kept telling my 2 year old that she liked Cauliflower. She took a few bites, didn't like it, but decided she was hungry enough to eat it. What else can you do when there are no options?

# 53 Pared @ 07/22/08 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fistofrage


	Its the same as me trying to feed my daughter cauliflower the other night. I don't really know how to make it, it tastes pretty bad, but I kept telling my 2 year old that she liked Cauliflower. She took a few bites, didn't like it, but decided she was hungry enough to eat it. What else can you do when there are no options?

You have the exclusive cauliflower license?

# 54 Beantown @ 07/22/08 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	You have the exclusive cauliflower license?

Pretty obvious the point was the only thing on her plate to eat was cauliflower.

# 55 KG @ 07/22/08 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jmass222


	idn what everyone is crying about the above issues dont seem like that big of a deal except for maybe the kick and punt returns and the roster and online dynasty stuff. the only thing im worried about is losiing ur perfectly fine wired connection to the ****ing servers and having a 7 - 10 record when you should be 15 and 2 rahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

The first one is a gameplay issue which I can deal with. I know that no game is perfect and I can expect there to be flaws in every game. Hyped features that aren't working or causing crashes/lost data is not cool at all. I know the OD issue isn't a problem with the actual game, its the servers but still. When you plan for releasing something that heavily relies on servers it's hard to anticipate all the issues that will occur but to have one of your main features crap out is unacceptable.

# 56 ewto16 @ 07/22/08 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bkrich83


	Unfortunately I think that's a point that you will never get across to certain people. They'd rather toss silly insults and run with conspiracy theories. It's what happens when people think they are completely anonymous.

I'd be more than happy to tell the EA testers, developers, producers, and anyone else from EA Tiburon that would be willing to listen face to face that their game is released without going through enough testing and that is a total shame that the people that pay $60 for their game find bugs that should be found in testing at EA. It is absurd that some of these issues exist.

More than happy to do so. Have them PM me for my info.

# 57 mikec0427 @ 07/22/08 01:12 PM

i have grown tired of ea releasing substandard products that should be labeled defective. it is ridiculous that a brand new game could have so many problems associated with it. all you will ever hear is "we will get a patch out" or "we will put it in next year"...lets wait and see what problems madden will have.

# 58 OMT @ 07/22/08 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rudyjuly2


	I love the fact that these guys are here AND that they haven't disappeared after the release of the game and some criticism.

You should see the private messages I get sent!

# 59 Chibi @ 07/22/08 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fishepa


	LOL. It's a no win situation no matter what the hell anyone does.

OS is terrible for letting NCAA and Madden devs interact with the community, apparently.

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	People come to OS for objective opinions about sports games. When peoples threads get locked, or comments get deleted when somebody has something critical to say about NCAA '09, it erodes the credibility of the site and brand.

Threads aren't getting locked for negativity. They're getting locked for being the fifteenth thread about the exact same topic over the course of one day.

I know that threads like "EA IS CRAP I HATE EA WHY YOU DID RELEASING BAD THING" are very informative, but I think you'll find that threads already exist for discussion of said subject.

# 60 DiddyGotGrillz @ 07/22/08 05:51 PM

It is sad that I read all of those quotes as they were being posted....I have been watching these threads non-stop for the past week!

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