02:52 PM - June 4, 2008 by Steve_OS News Post
02:52 PM - June 4, 2008 by Steve_OS
NBA Live 09 Videos
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# 21
jewelz1132 @ 06/04/08 07:01 PM
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As always I'm never worried about the graphics in any of these games. They're alway more than good enough for me.
Most of us here are all looking to see the fixes in the long standing trouble areas of course.
It seems as if all the other EA sports games have improved exponentially in terms of player control and animation quality for their '09 versions. We'll have to see if the basketball games will have the same level of improvements.
Most of us here are all looking to see the fixes in the long standing trouble areas of course.
It seems as if all the other EA sports games have improved exponentially in terms of player control and animation quality for their '09 versions. We'll have to see if the basketball games will have the same level of improvements.
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Hopefully the Madden/NCAA plague will trickle over to the guys over at NBA Live and one of the devs hops on here. I know stephon is already here but it would be nice to cut the middle man out and get direct feedback from one of the guys actually writing code (no offense stephon).
Mike was here a lot when he was with VC, hopefully he finds his way down to the Live board to continue to interact with the OS brethren.
# 24
MessenjahMatt @ 06/04/08 07:32 PM
Something about Live's player models always looks off, I can't quite put my finger on it though. And when you see them in motion it certainly doesn't help.
# 25
stephensonmc @ 06/04/08 07:47 PM
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I don't have to tell you guys that these are super early, but that wouldn't matter anyway. We're all in the same boat here and analyze everything that comes out. That's why I love this!
# 26
jewelz1132 @ 06/04/08 07:49 PM
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# 27
Behindshadows @ 06/04/08 08:12 PM
I waited to see how this thread would turn out and wow! The trolls came out of no where, with instant Live and EA bashing! Please take your ignorance and pointless thoughts to the 2k threads. You don't plan on picking this up, so why bother to comment!
To the peeps who said things look bad, well let me begin by telling you why they don't!
First off a lot of you didn't play Live 08 enough to see a difference. The player models are more toned and body types are different and slimmed up! They were all muscular and buff in the previous Live.
Secondly the lighting in the stadiums are different and better than Live 08, you can even see a couple of people walking down the stairs ala 2k.
Look at the sleeve on Kobe's arm! It looks like a real accessory instead of painted on or animated like 2k and Live 08.
Also looks like they are trying to improve body structures and movement!
So many people are seeking faults in these shots, you forget to see what is improved! I know these photos really aren't outstanding or overly great. But they are showing improvement, that is something I've noticed from the first photo. Gasol's face shows emotion and looks good, from the hair, looks like the hair might actually move in-game.
Garnett's face is still a tad off, but neither 2k or EA got that right yet! Details look better, and the lighting on the court looks better as well.
All I can say is so far so good. Jersey's look odd at some points but it seems they are just trying to get a movement physic for it. For all the cry baby's bitching about it. Its not different than 2k's jersey's and shorts constantly disappearing while moving up and down the court. Jersey movement is a difficult feature to get right for both companies. So be easy on childish criticism.
Its a nice start from the few shots shown. Keep up the good work guys, and I look forward to more! Thanks for sharing this so far!
P.S. EA Gasol looks good, but get rid of the pointed noses, almost 88% of everyone had pointed noses, thats wrong. A lot of players have round tip noses, not though devilish noses! Fix that and we good!
To the peeps who said things look bad, well let me begin by telling you why they don't!
First off a lot of you didn't play Live 08 enough to see a difference. The player models are more toned and body types are different and slimmed up! They were all muscular and buff in the previous Live.
Secondly the lighting in the stadiums are different and better than Live 08, you can even see a couple of people walking down the stairs ala 2k.
Look at the sleeve on Kobe's arm! It looks like a real accessory instead of painted on or animated like 2k and Live 08.
Also looks like they are trying to improve body structures and movement!
So many people are seeking faults in these shots, you forget to see what is improved! I know these photos really aren't outstanding or overly great. But they are showing improvement, that is something I've noticed from the first photo. Gasol's face shows emotion and looks good, from the hair, looks like the hair might actually move in-game.
Garnett's face is still a tad off, but neither 2k or EA got that right yet! Details look better, and the lighting on the court looks better as well.
All I can say is so far so good. Jersey's look odd at some points but it seems they are just trying to get a movement physic for it. For all the cry baby's bitching about it. Its not different than 2k's jersey's and shorts constantly disappearing while moving up and down the court. Jersey movement is a difficult feature to get right for both companies. So be easy on childish criticism.
Its a nice start from the few shots shown. Keep up the good work guys, and I look forward to more! Thanks for sharing this so far!
P.S. EA Gasol looks good, but get rid of the pointed noses, almost 88% of everyone had pointed noses, thats wrong. A lot of players have round tip noses, not though devilish noses! Fix that and we good!
# 29
bigeastbumrush @ 06/04/08 08:46 PM
Players look exactly like '08
Arena lighting is vastly improved
EDIT: Also looks like we'll be able to change sneakers this year.
None of that matters much as the player animations in '08 were as stiff as a corpse.
Arena lighting is vastly improved
EDIT: Also looks like we'll be able to change sneakers this year.
None of that matters much as the player animations in '08 were as stiff as a corpse.
The bottom line is if live 09 makes the improvements in animation from 08 to 09 like madden did then live is on the right track back to the top. I'm gonna buy it regardless. I enjoyed 08 but it did have things that begged the s@#t out of me. If they can fix those things with the animations i'll be happy. I can't see ea taking steps back from 08 so i know this year will be enen better. Alot of people bash ea games but they are really opening their ear to the community, so im sure those bugs will be addressed. I grew up on live from back in the genesis days so i'm still amped at the progress the game has made the last 15 years. Can't wait for some videos showing the improved animations
Thing is, we know the game will look good. So these screens aren't much help right now. Thing is, we need t osee the game in motion. How well the players move and interact with defenders, how the bodies collide and bump inside. How the ball interacts with players hands and the rim.
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I don't even play Live and that bugs the heck out of me. They come in here just to post the same o' nonsense. "Live Sucks", "Live looks like crap. Look at Gasol's eyelashes. They all ****ed up.", "Live is pure garbage", "2K is gonna kill Live."
Who cares? It's so damn childish. What kind of response are they looking to get? What are you really looking to get out of their posts? Do they feel better now that they bashed Live?
I just don't get where all the hatred and criticism comes from. It's really lame.
I'm done now...The screenshots look great as they always do. I'm curious to how much improvement they'll have from this point up until the game's release since they already look this good. And like everyone else said, I would like to see some videos.
Looking at the trolling in this thread and some in the Madden section, I am kind of disappointed that the mods do not clean it up a bit more. Anyway, the pictures look impressive as always, but I am waiting for the gameplay videos to see if the series has take another step forward. I hope it has.
# 34
Da Birthday Boy @ 06/04/08 10:16 PM
You realize how early of a build it is, and there are no 2K9 screenshots, and even if they didn't improve from last year, 2K9 will NEVER be able to compete with graphics in LIVE so no on here should be talking.
Wow one would think for first images, EA would at least put their BEST photos up, but these zoomed in players faces look horrific for (2009). I am not a EA basher, I just want a good game, I know they released these as the Lakers and Celtics are playing, but show me the MONEY! 
# 36
SageInfinite @ 06/04/08 10:45 PM
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Im sure the graphics will be improved because both games dont give us final graphics shots in early releases, but Ill buy the game if they fix the physics and animations.
If it's just the same recycled trash where you spend countless hours trying to make it play decent then im passing on it another year.
I dont get why EA has to be so corporate and not personally interact with the fans that buy the games beyond the NBA Live ESPN tournament fanboys.
If it's just the same recycled trash where you spend countless hours trying to make it play decent then im passing on it another year.
I dont get why EA has to be so corporate and not personally interact with the fans that buy the games beyond the NBA Live ESPN tournament fanboys.
Judging by the screenshots, the game is still obviously very early. I can nitpick all day, but there's no point in doing that with months left in the development.
I hope they have improved the animations and the way players move. That's one of my biggest gripes with Live - the players move unrealistically.
I hope they have improved the animations and the way players move. That's one of my biggest gripes with Live - the players move unrealistically.
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