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NCAA Football 08 vs. 09 Video Comparison

04:30 PM - May 20, 2008 by Solidice

EA Sports have uploaded a video comparison of NCAA Football 08 and 09.

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# 41 jdrhammer @ 05/20/08 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram209


	Boy I sure hate to be the one who brings REALITY to this love fest! Um how about instead of convoy blocking how bout a real QB pocket or here is a great idea actual oline/dline interaction. Once again this is EA throwing "fluff" at us and people loving it, we really are sheep. Not one of those cool new things will do anything to gameplay. Im sorry but like I said EA putting a new coat of paint on a crap engine, instead of fixing the core problem. Hey I coulb be wrong and the game could be great, but going on Ea track record I'm going to guess once again all hype no substance

I'm not fully sold either. These are necessary improvements, but nothing earth-shattering. The convoy blocking looks cool and I'm glad they added it, but I hope they fixed blocking in general. From the trenches out to downfield blocking, it sucked as hard as ever in 08.

I really like the changes but I noticed USC wearing white cleats on the sidelines, which is absurd. Plus, USC is one of the best programs going, if not the best, and they've worn white laces the last several years. EA doesn't notice. Same goes with Texas wearing white spikes on the road with the all-whites.

Some people are too naive and would buy anything EA put on the shelf regardless.

# 42 Gamecock @ 05/20/08 08:18 PM

Good video..and what exactly is this new running system? Is turbo and what not going to be the same, but just a more improved and much more fluid juking system with the right analog?

Loved the BC mascot celebration.

# 43 SteelerSpartan @ 05/20/08 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Solidice


	they didn't show the linemen because the focus was on the QB animation while in the pocket, which is why it was labeled "Improved QB Pocket Animation"

Dude you could see a lot more of the Line play in the 08 part, then when they switch to show 09....the player curiously drops back further and gets the line out of the shot

# 44 J-Unit40 @ 05/20/08 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelerSpartan


	Dude you could see a lot more of the Line play in the 08 part, then when they switch to show 09....the player curiously drops back further and gets the line out of the shot

Marketing at its finest.

I still love the video though. I think I've played it 4 times already.

# 45 Solidice @ 05/20/08 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelerSpartan


	Dude you could see a lot more of the Line play in the 08 part, then when they switch to show 09....the player curiously drops back further and gets the line out of the shot

I'm not saying that the line protection is better, same, or worse. they weren't showing the video to show the line play, they were trying to show how the QB looks in the pocket, not the pocket it self.

# 46 J-Unit40 @ 05/20/08 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Solidice


	I'm not saying that the line protection is better, same, or worse. they weren't showing the video to show the line play, they were trying to show how the QB looks in the pocket, not the pocket it self.

Very true. It did say QB animation, didn't it? I can't get over how improved the player models are.

# 47 LBzrule @ 05/20/08 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spankdatazz22


	Nice video. I liked the pre-snap defensive movement if only because it looked cool. Player models are extremely well done. Favorite addition is still the analog running. Coupled with NCAA last gen's momentum would make for an extremely enjoyable running game. Negatives would be the seeming lock-on blocking; the QB anim that was shown still looked unnatural; and still not much in the way of players interacting. But it was a nice hype video

I'm not so sure the pre-snap defensive movement is new. They draw a comparison between 08 and 09. Notice in 08 the guys are barely moving. They point here and there, a DT may look back at a linebacker but that's it. Now notice with the 09 they have the linebackers and the Safeties move. But my issue is, you could get the linebackers and Safeties to move the exact same way in 08 if you used the show blitz feature pre snap. They would move to the same exact spots. So the only distinction I see here is that for the 08 portion of the clip they just didn't use show blitz and in 09 they did give or take a few animations with the Safety on the left of the screen backing out.

# 48 Village Idiot @ 05/20/08 08:49 PM

I commented on it before: what's with the grass in '09? It looks like there's chalk all over it. The convoy blocking thing is cool, but notice how quick they cut away from the shot? That's because after dude gets in the endzone, they probably go into robot mode and start looking for the huddle instead of jumping all over the guy. They almost make up for it, but all the celebrations thereafter are only with one other teammate. Better than none, but it's still pretty shady. It's the 2009 version of the game and we still aren't seeing three and four guys push each other around after a play? We have to get excited about two guys interacting? Stuff in the "analog controlled movements" section is pretty sweet. No comment on the mascot celebrations.

# 49 SageInfinite @ 05/20/08 08:50 PM

I just hope they got rid of the computer qbs throwing strikes off their back foot when I get pressure. I want to see the passes become super inaccurate if they throw off their back foot. Also they should rarely attempt this. I'd like the QB's throw with their feet planted and if I bring pressure either throw the pass away, take the sack, or force a bad throw.

# 50 TeeDogg @ 05/20/08 09:36 PM

nice vids, i just hope EA has advanced gang tackleing , player interactions, and gotten rid of the scripted interceptions and i may actualy be prepared to enjoy EA footbal this year.

# 51 Gamecock @ 05/20/08 09:44 PM

scripted interceptions?

# 52 ODogg @ 05/20/08 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram209


	And your right it will never be 2k

for some of us that is a good thing...(I liked certain elements of 2k football games but never liked the overall game better than EA's).

That video really pumped me up as it's little things like in that video that go a long way towards making the game just worlds better...

# 53 TeeDogg @ 05/20/08 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamecock


	scripted interceptions?

yeah they were much more prominent in madden than NCAA but they were there. i was always one that when i threw a pick, i would anylise the replay to see where i made a bad read. EA was notorious for the ball warping into a defenders hands. sometimes leaving the qb's hand then taking an odd angle to the defender.

# 54 Ram209 @ 05/20/08 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	for some of us that is a good thing...(I liked certain elements of 2k football games but never liked the overall game better than EA's).

Thats fine we all have our likes and dislikes, but there are somethings that no one can argue, Oline/Dline interaction is still better in 2ks 5 year old game, gang tackling and tackling in general is lacking in EA's game on a 100x more powerful system. It just blows my mind how they think that adding "convoy blocking" adds to realism. No matter how you slice it this is EA 101, add worthless features that sugar coat the real problems. And once again the majority is eating it up.

And another thing that I dont get is Football is a copy cat sport, take what the other game did better and its not opinion that its better its a FACT and try to copy it on a 100x better system, I just don't get it!

# 55 ODogg @ 05/20/08 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram209


	Thats fine we all have our likes and dislikes, but there are somethings that no one can argue, Oline/Dline interaction is still better in 2ks 5 year old game, gang tackling and tackling in general is lacking in EA's game on a 100x more powerful system.

Oh I 100% agree that all those things were done a lot better in 2k. I just didn't like the overall game better.

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Originally Posted by Ram209


	It just blows my mind how they think that adding "convoy blocking" adds to realism.

Adding these sorts of details that make the game play more like real life is adding realism. It's just not adding an aspect of realism to what you place importance on.

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Originally Posted by Ram209


	No matter how you slice it this is EA 101, add worthless features that sugar coat the real problems. And once again the majority is eating it up.

Again, you have to realize that what you state isn't fact, it's your opinion. These features may be worthless to you but for others they go a good deal towards making us feel more immersed in the game, thus increasing our enjoyment. Why wouldn't seeing features that you know will increase your enjoyment make you "eat that up"?

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Originally Posted by Ram209


	And another thing that I dont get is Football is a copy cat sport, take what the other game did better and its not opinion that its better its a FACT and try to copy it on a 100x better system, I just don't get it!

I don't understand what you're saying here. What is a fact? That 2K was a better game on a lesser system? That's not fact, again that's simply your opinion.

# 56 Sausage @ 05/20/08 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DLaren


	In the '08 clip, the QB was bouncing up & down while standing in the "pocket". In the '09 clip, the QB was shifting his legs instead of bouncing in-place. The emphasis was on his footwork.

I also saw the QB have a better side orientation on his drop back. The was better, but I hope different QBs have different releases.

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Originally Posted by Ram209


	Boy I sure hate to be the one who brings REALITY to this love fest! Um how about instead of convoy blocking how bout a real QB pocket or here is a great idea actual oline/dline interaction. Once again this is EA throwing "fluff" at us and people loving it, we really are sheep. Not one of those cool new things will do anything to gameplay. Im sorry but like I said EA putting a new coat of paint on a crap engine, instead of fixing the core problem. Hey I coulb be wrong and the game could be great, but going on Ea track record I'm going to guess once again all hype no substance

I agree, they are wonderful at these kinds of videos. Same time last year we were on the boards were drooling the same way. A week after release so sad that we accidentally misplaced our money in EA/Tiburons pocket again. Maybe this year we can wait for OS's review or rent first.

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Originally Posted by rudyjuly2


	You are right. I think most would agree that the cpu QB AI was the biggest problem with last year's game. There were other issues but that was the biggest. Not just the tremendous amount of interceptions but also the fact they never went deep. Both were really terrible but I don't think we will find out if they are fixed at the community event. That usually features human vs. human play. There is very little vs. cpu games that go on. I can only hope that we hear more detailed impressions on that in the future by people who get beta or early copies.

I hope they play several games against the A.I. as well. If we all post this for those websites that are attending, this may happen.

My conclusion:
The vid was a great commercial for us who look and expect the little touches of football. There are still plenty of questions to be answered and presentation to be added.

# 57 SteelerSpartan @ 05/20/08 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram209


	Thats fine we all have our likes and dislikes, but there are somethings that no one can argue, Oline/Dline interaction is still better in 2ks 5 year old game, gang tackling and tackling in general is lacking in EA's game on a 100x more powerful system. It just blows my mind how they think that adding "convoy blocking" adds to realism. No matter how you slice it this is EA 101, add worthless features that sugar coat the real problems. And once again the majority is eating it up. And another thing that I dont get is Football is a copy cat sport, take what the other game did better and its not opinion that its better its a FACT and try to copy it on a 100x better system, I just don't get it!

its about the $$$ man and how far they can push down their costs while maximizing their profits.(And EA is more adamant about that then most companies, don't anybody even try to argue it)

Anyways I don't want to turn this into a complete negativity thread so I'll say, that again Im really impressed by the models this year

# 58 jyoung @ 05/20/08 10:50 PM

All that needs to be said here:

If the improvements were so great, why isn't there any actual footage from live plays?

Answer:

Because EA's doing the same thing they do every year--trying to hide a moldy piece of bread by spraying it with a fresh layer of whipped cream.

# 59 Ram209 @ 05/20/08 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	I don't understand what you're saying here. What is a fact? That 2K was a better game on a lesser system? That's not fact, again that's simply your* opinion.*

No I guess I should have clarified, the aspects in 2ks game that are better, tackling, line interaction etc... Some things like I said no matter which game play you prefer 2k game did better and still does better and its been 4-5 years. Take the best of both games and combine them. And there are alot of things in EA's game that are better. Just combine the two they have a better system and the resources to do it.

# 60 coogrfan @ 05/20/08 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wEEman33


	All that needs to be said here: If the improvements were so great, why isn't there any actual footage from live plays? Answer: Because EA's doing the same thing they do every year--trying to hide a moldy piece of bread by spraying it with a fresh layer of whipped cream.

All that really needs to be said here: if you don't like it, don't buy it.

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