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All-Pro Football 2K9 Benched

08:13 PM - March 11, 2008 by eaglesfan27

According to a few reports, there are no plans for a sequel to All-Pro Football 2K8 this year.

@ GameSpot

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	"As for last year's franchise debut of All-Pro Football, it apparently didn't make the cut. When asked about the absence of a football game on the company's release schedule, Take-Two execs said it had been taken off the slate, but they were continuing to weigh their options."

@ FiringSquad

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	"There will not be a new football title from 2K Sports this year (the company released the non-NFL licensed All-Pro Football 2K8 in 2007) but Take Two execs stated they are still looking at perhaps releasing a new football game sometime in the future."

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Member Comments

# 21 Sausage @ 03/12/08 10:35 AM

This is bad news for football fans and many don't even realize it. Now the other game will go back to being a stale, emotionless, and un-fun football game.

I was really looking forward to play APF 2K9, Backbreaker, and a patched NCAA 2009. I am not depressed, but just mad because I believe it would have been a special game.

# 22 BlyGilmore @ 03/12/08 10:57 AM

certainly sad news. I twas expecting to see 2K take one more shot with APF, throw a full franchise into it and see where sales went then.

There's nothing they can do about the license, but not having a franchise in last years game killed them IMO.

# 23 quietcool72 @ 03/12/08 11:30 AM

I guess that leaves us with hope for news on Tecmo Bowl 08, which is due sometime this year.

# 24 spankdatazz22 @ 03/12/08 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by VCdolphin


	I'm not shocked, but certainly disappointed. I was hoping a very customizable APF 2K9 would be given a chance to improve on the 2K8 sales.

My sentiment also. But I disagree w/you regarding the UFL or whatever it is - I doubt that league survives. It seems to have even less behind it than the USFL did, in terms of buzz, coach/player talent, venues, etc.

While I hoped for the best re APF2K9, I figured it was somewhat unlikely they'd release a 2K9. At times last year I campaigned that they shouldn't even attempt to make another game, given the convulsive reaction some in the hardcore community had to the game initially. It's just too much of an uphill battle, it's margin for error too small - with too many varying expectations for the game to be moderately successful. Some want it to be an all-encompassing, fully-customizable game, some want a 32-team/2-conference/4 divisions/4 teams per division gimped copy of the NFL, some want a college game, others a high school game, some even want USFL/XFL/Canadian league games. All while having an ultra-deep franchise mode (with no real-life base to mirror) and a spectacular new graphics engine. Oh and redefine presentation in a sports game, and give us some minigames.

Wow - I didn't mention gameplay. Unlike last gen, it seems gameplay sometimes takes a back seat to a lot of things. Interesting to think back on just how much things changed four years ago (?) when the NFL exclusivity news came out. Then the NCAA, NCAA, EsPN, Arena, and MLB league deals came. I remember thinking at the time we were on the cusp of seeing something truly great with NFL2K6, and they were cut at the knees. Going forward, I guess there's still a chance that an APF game could be released in the off-season; I think anytime between January - June is viable. But at the same time I can see where they'd be better off not dealing with the headache. Unfortunate, because even to this day I see the occasional spectacular play that makes me say "wow" (gonna try to post one later today). I have no doubt that if APF was given the same room to grow in next gen that most sports have, it could have easily carved it's own niche and been successful even with all that was stacked against it. Chances are like NFL2K6, we'll have to wonder "what if..."

# 25 allBthere @ 03/12/08 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimsontide27


	Lol if they were planning on it releasing in October anyways. Game wouldnt sell 50k copies if that was the street date. Majority of all football fans would have already shelled out $120+ for NCAA and Madden by then. Only way AP2K would stand a snowballs chance is to release while the hype is building for the NCAA / Madden games. ( And this doesnt mean release it a day after NCAA ) Release it in early June when everyone is clamoring around for every football tidbit of information that they can get and people wilk buy it. If it sucks, they would just trade it in for NCAA / Madden anyways, but 2k already has made their sale. If October + is what you are suggesting for a release date, then the people in charge of 2k have absolutley no business sense whatsoever.

you can't say that because no one has done that before. preseason anticipation is big, but so is 'during the season excitement'...plus by then most people are already done w/ madden.

I'd buy it in any month!

# 26 allBthere @ 03/12/08 12:43 PM

I own 2k8, but to be honest I'm anticipating Backbreaker more than any football title this year.

# 27 marshallfever @ 03/12/08 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by allBthere


	I own 2k8, but to be honest I'm anticipating Backbreaker more than any football title this year.

I'm with you here

# 28 Valdarez @ 03/12/08 01:29 PM

This is from the APF2K8 forums at 2K Sports - http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164912

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Originally Posted by Blue-Lightning


	As many of you know, Take Two Interactive has stated that All Pro Football 2K9 is not slated for release within their official release schedule at this time. You also know that Take Two Interactive has stated that this does not necessarily mean All Pro Football 2K9 has been cancelled, only that Take Two Interactive is weighing its options as far as whether to release the product. So, to reiterate the point in the most simple way possible: All Pro Football 2K9 is not cancelled. All Pro Football 2K9 may not be released, but that has yet to be decided. Thank you,

# 29 M3 Leagues @ 03/12/08 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DocHolliday


	BTW. Valderez, where the hell were u getting your information? You really had my hopes up and now they are dashed.

LOL ... I couldn't take the site too seriously ... evidently, it is just a couple of guys trying to build a name on the web. When I first read the whole .. possible interviews with people at 2K yadadada.. and just having no real credible sources to back it up, I knew then it was nothing more than a plug. Not too difficult to rationalize.

# 30 Valdarez @ 03/12/08 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Leagues


	LOL ... I couldn't take the site too seriously ... evidently, it is just a couple of guys trying to build a name on the web. When I first read the whole .. possible interviews with people at 2K yadadada.. and just having no real credible sources to back it up, I knew then it was nothing more than a plug. Not too difficult to rationalize.

You should read the entire thread before you launch a baseless attack against someone.

# 31 M3 Leagues @ 03/12/08 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Valdarez


	You should read this entire thread before you launch a baseless attack against someone.

Sorry, my bad ... I don't know what came over me.

"What I find interesting is how people around the Internet want to turn a blind eye to the harsh reality that Take-Two is inevitably bound to close or sell -- as if it's always going to be around. Whether most want to admit it or not, the clock is ticking and at the end of this nightmare will be EA standing. The actual thought of this happening, truly sickens me."

# 32 Valdarez @ 03/12/08 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Leagues


	Sorry, my bad ... I don't know what came over me. "What I find interesting is how people around the Internet want to turn a blind eye to the harsh reality that Take-Two is inevitably bound to close or sell -- as if it's always going to be around. Whether most want to admit it or not, the clock is ticking and at the end of this nightmare will be EA standing. The actual thought of this happening, truly sickens me."

And that has nothing to do with your attack now does it?

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Originally Posted by Valdarez


	That's weird, I just talked with the 2K Sports Community Manager yesterday.

With regards to APF2K9 - This is from the APF2K8 forums at 2K Sports - http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164912

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue-Lightning


	As many of you know, Take Two Interactive has stated that All Pro Football 2K9 is not slated for release within their official release schedule at this time. You also know that Take Two Interactive has stated that this does not necessarily mean All Pro Football 2K9 has been canceled, only that Take Two Interactive is weighing its options as far as whether to release the product. So, to reiterate the point in the most simple way possible: All Pro Football 2K9 is not canceled. All Pro Football 2K9 may not be released, but that has yet to be decided. Thank you,

# 33 VCdolphin @ 03/12/08 02:32 PM

Mark Cuban is the biggest name associated with the UFL at the moment, but they seem to have a solid plan on how to build a league. A $25-30 million salary cap, so the players will get decent money, even by NFL standards, and each owner has to put up the money to keep the team running for 3 years.

Will it work? The odds are, I'd guess, about 50-50 the UFL lasts for more than 3 years, but they ARE learning from the mistakes of the USFL and XFL (among others).

It's not hard to see the opportunity for 2K Sports that the UFL would bring. They'll NEVER see the NFL license again, but a UFL game lets them create a Franchise mode that everyone understands (tell me how you do that with NFL legends) and they could allow you to expand the UFL league to NFL-like numbers of teams (just leave the create-a-team mode in from APF).

Being able to release a new game EVERY year is very important too, as you spread out development costs. I bet it would cost less to get a UFL license for the first few years than it did to sign all the legends.

I will say that if VC is doing some work on a 2K9 game, that is encouraging, even if we don't see it this year. They may try a 09 release, and see how that goes, before calling it a day on APF football. I think you could argue that by then the number of nextgen consoles sold will be in the 30-40 million range, and thus better odds of bigger sales for a niche type football game.

# 34 StormJH1 @ 03/12/08 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by totalownership


	One beautiful thing about this game , at least for online players, is the roster never gets outdated. I think this is going to be one of those cult games. 5 years from now when Madden still sucks some kid who is 12 years old now will be 17 talking about "Hey guys remember that game where you could play as OJ and it played real well? Better than this Madden 2014 garbage. Do they still make that game?". That's when we can gouge him for $$$ LMAO

I suppose I shouldn't trample on your optimism, but everything about this game was "dated" the day it was released. That's why a grand total of 200,000 (or whatever it was) bought it at retail.

I hope you're able to find someone willing to play this game 5 years from now, but I highly doubt it. My conversation, however, would go something like this:

"Hey, do you remember when 2k tried that All-Pro Football game, and you'd score a touchdown with Barry Sanders, and instead of handing the ball to the ref like in real life, he started doing the Dirty Bird and talking trash? Man, that game SUCKED! And it didn't even have franchise or anything. Too bad GameStop doesn't accept it as a trade-in anymore because there isn't much of a profit margin to be had buying used games for $.50 that they can't sell for a dollar."

...and (hopefully)...

"Man, I'm so glad that Finn's editor version 9.1 came out so Puja could do his NFL 2k14 rosters for us. Especially now that Madden re-upped their exclusive deal with the NFL until 2019. Now, if only we can find a way to transfer Original XBox saves over to an XBox 720..."

# 35 allBthere @ 03/12/08 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by metallicatz


	The UFL (or whatever it's called) will be history just as quick as the XFL was. Nobody wants to watch a football league in which Eric Crouch is one of the top draft picks, nor does anybody want to play a game full of NFL wash-outs, has-beens, and never were's. Not to mention that the "league" only has 6 teams if i'm not mistaken. The league has already been postponed due to financial support. I doubt it will even get of the ground. The UFL is the last thing that could possibly save APF. A "Winning Eleven-style" game would've been the much better option, and still would be IMHO if the game were to actually still somehow get the green light. But don't hold your breath.

THE UFL; , how do I watch it when it comes out? Is it in bed with a specific network? When is the first game supposed to be (in nfl offseason? - that would be great)
I'd sopcast this sucker if it does take off.

# 36 aenggeorge @ 03/12/08 04:05 PM

VALDEZ SS DEAD ON GUYS LETS JUST WAIT AMD SEE WHAT 2K DOES!!! these guys it looks is workin their butts ftr this 2k9 game!!!

# 37 Falkon @ 03/12/08 04:37 PM

Let's try to look at it this way. This game can easily be played for as long as we want it to be. There aren't any roster updates or serious changes they can't just make an update for. If they really want to, they can just release a pack with a ton of legends or a pack w/ FPF and Franchise and such. The only reason NFL games don't follow up with games from 07 in 08 is because they wouldn't sell their new game if they just put out roster updates for last years. 2k doesn't have to worry about this with APF. Thus, the game can be timeless if 2k makes it that way.

# 38 aenggeorge @ 03/12/08 04:50 PM

is a wiat and see procss now!

# 39 Behindshadows @ 03/12/08 05:26 PM

I'm not mad or disappointed. Again I've said many times, if you can't do it right don't do it at all.

I'm sure APF 2k8 had a lot of limitations for a reason! And if they couldn't do what they wanted to with 2k9 I'm sure it would be a waste of development dollars.

With the exiting of CH series, I knew this would come too. Sorry a lot of you kept your hopes up. But it was a business decision I didn't see Take Two moving forward with a sequel.

2k football will be scarse again. for another 5 years. I guess we will see NFL 2K14 on the Xbox Next and PS4.

# 40 Goffs @ 03/12/08 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Behindshadows2


	2k football will be scarse again. for another 5 years. I guess we will see NFL 2K14 on the Xbox Next and PS4.

eh 2k sports will be loooong gone by that time...its going to be EA's world by that time...

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