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Old 08-26-2021, 05:38 PM   #1
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CPU using relievers too long.

Does anyone have a solution for this? Does every relievers' stamina have to be lowered? I feel like I play so many games where a starter is taken out in the 4th or 5th (even if its not a blowout) and then the relieve pitches 2 innings at least every time, sometimes 3 innings. This just isn't realistic at all. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 08-27-2021, 09:40 AM   #2
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Does anyone have a solution for this? Does every relievers' stamina have to be lowered? I feel like I play so many games where a starter is taken out in the 4th or 5th (even if its not a blowout) and then the relieve pitches 2 innings at least every time, sometimes 3 innings. This just isn't realistic at all. Any help would be appreciated.

I haven't played enough to endorse myself but others here have said that bullben usage is improved by setting both stamina sliders to 8 and the manager hook slider to 4.

Another thing some people do is have a manager hook setting for the starter and then change to 10 for the rest of the game when the CPU pulls the starter.
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Does anyone have a solution for this? Does every relievers' stamina have to be lowered? I feel like I play so many games where a starter is taken out in the 4th or 5th (even if its not a blowout) and then the relieve pitches 2 innings at least every time, sometimes 3 innings. This just isn't realistic at all. Any help would be appreciated.
Don't touch stamina sliders (editing them is a huge mistake if you want player ratings to be respected). Instead, lower manager hook to 4.

That will keep SPs in a bit longer, adds dynamicism to CPU managerial decisions (they will be more apt to stick with a guy a bit longer - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't). In most cases, it stretches SPs out a couple more innings and allows the AI to use their bullpen far more effectively.
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Don't touch stamina sliders (editing them is a huge mistake if you want player ratings to be respected). Instead, lower manager hook to 4.

That will keep SPs in a bit longer, adds dynamicism to CPU managerial decisions (they will be more apt to stick with a guy a bit longer - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't). In most cases, it stretches SPs out a couple more innings and allows the AI to use their bullpen far more effectively.
The slider set I use had manager hook at 4, but I felt that starters were being left in too long. Thus, I moved it back to 5. HOWEVER, it is an interesting point that it may help the issue of relievers being left in too long. I really wish they would have a separate hook setting for starters and relievers, a la OOTP. I think that would give us the best of both worlds.

There's also the issue of relievers being used three or four days in a row far too frequently. I'd love to hear ideas on how to fix THAT.
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We use manager hook at 2 for SP, then raise to 10 once RP comes in. Works perfectly!

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We use manager hook at 2 for SP, then raise to 10 once RP comes in. Works perfectly!

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Having to do that every game seems very tedious. It shouldn't have to be that way. And further, that kind of agrees with my point of having a different slider for starters vs. relievers.
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Having to do that every game seems very tedious. It shouldn't have to be that way. And further, that kind of agrees with my point of having a different slider for starters vs. relievers.

I agree, I don’t like having to change sliders in the middle of the game every game. I like it to just set as is. Separate hook sliders for starters and relievers is a must! We don’t really need the stamina in the sliders as pitchers already have stamina attributes hooked to them, so just replace the sliders with hooks for starters and relievers. Problem solved!


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I agree, I don’t like having to change sliders in the middle of the game every game. I like it to just set as is. Separate hook sliders for starters and relievers is a must! We don’t really need the stamina in the sliders as pitchers already have stamina attributes hooked to them, so just replace the sliders with hooks for starters and relievers. Problem solved!


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The problem with removing stamina sliders all together, at least in my experience, is that starters don't last all that long on the default stamina setting.

I know this is all falling on deaf ears. The developers wouldn't change this unless it impacted their money making modes.
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