Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

[fideco]

Hello everyone
Last night I wanted to take in hand two previous versions of Fifa and check the defensive movements of the CM to support the defense. I was amazed, comparing them with the movements of the bad 21, where they stop in midfield whatever the sliders used. The problem is huge and with appropriate sliders can only be limited by drastically lowering the length of the defense, but not solved.
In this regard, I'm afraid (and not just me) that in Fifa 22 (as in the very bad 21) the midfielders, from what few I've seen from the official videos (but it's enough for an experienced eye), do not return back in an incisive and massive way to support the defensive line: it is still favored the logic Fut of 1 Versus 1, so the attackers constantly dominate the defense (6 vs 4)

These videos refer to a previous version of Fifa and show instead a solid participation of the cm to the defensive support: in the first video the opponent CM chases my attacker, pulls him, brakes him and allows an easy intervention of the right fullback ... so the last quarter in the meantime has been properly covered by the four defenders.
All the central and lateral Cm have returned and crowd the last area of the field.
This is to say that Fifa was excellent in the defensive phase OFFLINE: it was easy to continue along the path taken, but the pressure of the people Fut that fills EA cash has obviously had the better.



In the second video the goal of the cpu comes from a brilliant defensive move always with the support of the CM and it is a nice counterattack play.Note that all the CMs are back to protect the defense.



We just have to wait for the final version of Fifa 22: personally on the specific problem described i'm not absolutely confident.
It remains to be seen whether in the ratio bad/benefits NG, the benefits far outweigh the first (I refer only to the gameplay)
See you soon

P.S Sliders used in Videos: Professional by fideco Fifa 18

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Any optimism about this being fixed in FIFA 22 is just blind optimism because it's not supported by the gameplay we've seen to this point. The CM issue is present in any footage of that part of the field that's been released for the new game. They have two months to fix it, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Rmiok222]

Quote: Originally Posted by PhillyPhanatic14

Any optimism about this being fixed in FIFA 22 is just blind optimism because it's not supported by the gameplay we've seen to this point. The CM issue is present in any footage of that part of the field that's been released for the new game. They have two months to fix it, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

That’s the thing, I don’t think it’s “broke” so I don’t see them fixing it. This is sadly exactly how they want it to play.


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[jrnlgrn]

I think it was a deep dive or one of the videos where they mention something about defensive awareness rating "continuing" to play a big part in middle defensive behavior. I believe a game changer last year said the devs said it was on purpose and that people just needed players with better defensive attributes.

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[fideco]

I'm not confident about this issue being addressed in Fifa 22.

This is yet another benefit granted to the Fut world that wants less and less interference from the cpu playing their moves, emphasizing the logic of 1 versus 1.
The fallout on the 21 offline gameplay has been very bad and has surprised the offline people:
for the first time the player attacks in a position of unfair advantage on the cpu (6 versus 4) according to a precise choice of programming by the Dev Team.
Obviously the criticism is symmetrical when the cpu attacks.
It's a lost battle: as I said I fear that Fifa 22 will not deviate from this policy that matches logic of marketing and CASH.

[JayD]

In a video by one of the devs they stated that the reason why they had FIFA 21 AI not tracking back is that it resulted in too many defensive clusters preventing higher scoring games.

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Quote: Originally Posted by JayD

In a video by one of the devs they stated that the reason why they had FIFA 21 AI not tracking back is that it resulted in too many defensive clusters preventing higher scoring games.

That's disheartening. If the devs don't want to create a football game that plays realistically then they're the wrong people to be making the game. Creating bad player awareness on purpose is just insane.

[dubcity]

Quote: Originally Posted by JayD

In a video by one of the devs they stated that the reason why they had FIFA 21 AI not tracking back is that it resulted in too many defensive clusters preventing higher scoring games.

Exactly. There are FIFA games in the past 10 years that have been more simulation, with a more realistic defensive midfield, but that's not what the devs or online players want. FIFA 14 on 360/PS3 played pretty slow like that, for example. FIFA 21 is one of the all-time worst when it comes to speed and unrealistic gameplay.