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Mike Lowe · 09-07-2020, 04:29 PM

Introduction

Community feedback has helped me tremendously with the MLB The Show sliders, and I'm hoping to help with a slider set for Madden this year too. I'm admittedly not the best Madden player, but I'd say I'm above average on a good day.

This set will work in broadcast view, standard, or any other you'd like to use as any differences have far more to do with your skill and comfort level. Like anything, practice helps.

The goal of this set is to use data collection and analysis to work toward finding a slider set that matches the output of simulated games (and hopefully real life).

Highlights

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Pictured: Just Week 1, but Stafford within 1.0 QBR, 2% completion percentage, and .5 YPA when compared to his 2019 real life stats.

Additional Information

I've done beta testing for OOTP baseball since 2008, as well as testing for Grey Dog Software. I've done similar slider sets for other games here at OS, and I also do a lot of testing and design in my career.

The reason I share that brief bio is to explain my approach in being thorough in my settings and adjustments to provide a realistic and challenging set, even if that means I go 5-11 sometimes (my baseball sliders had my team within 2 games of their real life counterpart).

I'm not a believer in locking in a slider set and never readjusting. Instead, I look for ways to have the game fluctuate along with my gradual improvements, which are inevitable.

I'm not aiming for every game to be some sort of perfect script, and I love seeing results others get from this set as well.

Overview

v2.1 for Next-Gen
Current-Gen are final

*12 minutes quarters
*No defensive switch (or rare)
*No user catch (or rare)
*Simulate weekly training on bronze
*I control a LB or DB
*Will work in full games as well as Play The Moments
*Evaluated and adjusted for added realism and accuracy against simulated CFM games, and hopefully the NFL
*Main menu settings do not interact with CFM settings. Period. Full stop. I have confirmation from the Madden team (and from years of personal experience) that it's nothing but placebo/statistical variance.

League Settings

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Team Settings

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XP Sliders (courtesy of CallMeMcCringleberry)

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Player Skill Next-Gen

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Player Skill Current-Gen Final

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Mike Lowe · 09-07-2020, 04:29 PM

I'll be streaming this franchise on YouTube. You can also follow me on Twitter @MikeLowe47

Same Old Lions Franchise https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...0efnTc9thNJ5Au

Mike Lowe · 09-09-2020, 03:36 PM

1st post has been updated to v1.0.

RufusInPhilly · 09-09-2020, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Lowe


	*Main menu settings do not interact with CFM settings. Period. Full stop. I have confirmation from the Madden team (and from years of personal experience) that it's nothing but hyperbole/statistical variance.

I'll take your word for it ... but boy oh boy, here in OS is convinced you need to set MM's up very specifically before you set things up in CFM.

Mike Lowe · 09-09-2020, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RufusInPhilly


	I'll take your word for it ... but boy oh boy, here in OS is convinced you need to set MM's up very* specifically before you set things up in CFM.*

And some people are convinced the world is flat.

Mike Lowe · 09-09-2020, 08:14 PM

Especially curious to hear how these are playing in broadcast for those of you on board with that movement.

RufusInPhilly · 09-09-2020, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Lowe


	And some people are convinced the world is flat.

Ha ha. Indeed!

Apart from that, I've always played All Pro in previous Maddens and it will probably stay that way, at least for a while, with M21. Do you think these should be tweaked much since it looks like you've set this up for All Madden?

Mike Lowe · 09-09-2020, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RufusInPhilly


	Ha ha. Indeed! Apart from that, I've always played All Pro in previous Maddens and it will probably stay that way, at least for a while, with M21. Do you think these should be tweaked much since it looks like you've set this up for All Madden?

Haven't tested these at all outside of All Madden.

09-07-2020, 04:29 PM	#1
Mike Lowe All Star OVR: 18 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,227	Mike Lowe Madden 21 Sliders Introduction Community feedback has helped me tremendously with the MLB The Show sliders, and I'm hoping to help with a slider set for Madden this year too. I'm admittedly not the best Madden player, but I'd say I'm above average on a good day. This set will work in broadcast view, standard, or any other you'd like to use as any differences have far more to do with your skill and comfort level. Like anything, practice helps. The goal of this set is to use data collection and analysis to work toward finding a slider set that matches the output of simulated games (and hopefully real life). Highlights Spoiler Deep Ball https://youtu.be/cf_SaNftZVM Realistic Coverage https://youtu.be/azgC3YOCJ28 QB scramble TD https://youtu.be/GWkQyeoldCg Lots of great slider events happening on this one play https://youtu.be/vqnFF-n4Gzs AI QB throwing legit deep ball https://youtu.be/kYPTK-3p6WU All-Madden goaline stand on 4th down https://youtu.be/Dj32ratV6Bg Even with a 3rd and long on All-Madden, it's now possible to throw guys open without a warped INT https://youtu.be/q7F6MZoASVc Pictured: Just Week 1, but Stafford within 1.0 QBR, 2% completion percentage, and .5 YPA when compared to his 2019 real life stats. Additional Information I've done beta testing for OOTP baseball since 2008, as well as testing for Grey Dog Software. I've done similar slider sets for other games here at OS, and I also do a lot of testing and design in my career. The reason I share that brief bio is to explain my approach in being thorough in my settings and adjustments to provide a realistic and challenging set, even if that means I go 5-11 sometimes (my baseball sliders had my team within 2 games of their real life counterpart). I'm not a believer in locking in a slider set and never readjusting. Instead, I look for ways to have the game fluctuate along with my gradual improvements, which are inevitable. I'm not aiming for every game to be some sort of perfect script, and I love seeing results others get from this set as well. Overview v2.1 for Next-Gen Current-Gen are final 12 minutes quarters No defensive switch (or rare) No user catch (or rare) Simulate weekly training on bronze I control a LB or DB Will work in full games as well as Play The Moments Evaluated and adjusted for added realism and accuracy against simulated CFM games, and hopefully the NFL Main menu settings do not interact with CFM settings. Period. Full stop. I have confirmation from the Madden team (and from years of personal experience) that it's nothing but placebo/statistical variance. League Settings Spoiler Skill Level: All-Madden (just try it) Game Style: Simulation League Type: All (I'm using Financial Mogul Owner) Instant Starter: Off Trade Deadline: On Trade Type: Enable All Coach Firing: On Salary Cap: On Superstar Abilities: On Relocation Settings: Optional (I use a secondary Owner account to move teams if necessary) Injury: On Pre Existing Injury: On Practice Squad Stealing: On Player Progression Frequency: Weekly Career Clock: On Full On-Field Control: On Minimum Roster Size: 53 (teams need 3 QBs for a QB injury to occur) In-Season Player Movement Limit: Unlimited Player OVR Cut Restrictions: No restriction Offseason Player Cut Limit: Unlimited Breakout Scenarios: Off (AI teams don't seem to get them?) Development Trait Regression: On Desired X-Factor Dev Players: 50 Desired Superstar Dev Players: 50 Desired Star Dev Players: 400 Quarter Length: 12 minutes Accelerated Clock: On Minimum Play Clock Time: 20 Season Experience: All manual (or user preference) Tutorial Pop-ups: Off (or else you're forced to scout the first player on draft board) Auto Progress Players: Off, but I only simulate weekly training on bronze since this is what they AI does Fill Roster: Off Team Settings Spoiler Auto Flip Defensive Play Call: On Defensive Ball Hawk: Off Defensive Heat Seeker Assist: Off Defensive Switch Assist: Off Dynamic Play Call: Off Play Call Style: Enhanced Play Call Button Layout: Triangle, Square, Cross Previous Play Information: On (simulates footage review) On Field Visual Feedback: Off (or Optional) On Field Trainer: Off (or Optional) Defensive Pass Coverage Visual Assist: Off (or Optional) Receiver Visual Assist: Off (or Optional) Drive Goals & XP Feedback: Off (or Optional) Franchise Bottom Line Ticker: Scores Only Franchise Gameplan Boost Notification: Off Coaching Tips: Off (or Optional) Pre-Snap Menu: On Player Names: Pre-Snap Only Camera Toggle: On Passing Cam: On Offense Camera Settings: Any (I'm using Broadcast) Defense Camera Settings: Any (I'm using Broadcast) XP Sliders (courtesy of CallMeMcCringleberry) Spoiler Quarterbacks: 77 Halfbacks: 111 Tight Ends: 117 Wide Receivers: 89 Fullbacks: 114 Tackles: 120 Guards: 120 Centers: 122 Defensive Ends: 102 Defensive Tackles: 105 Middle Linebackers: 80 Outside Linebackers: 81 Cornerbacks: 115 Free Safeties: 120 Strong Safeties: 120 Kickers: 124 Punters: 124 Player Skill Next-Gen Spoiler Note: Numbers in parentheses are most recent + or - change to updated number being shown. QB Accuracy: 50 Pass Blocking: 50 WR Catching: 56 Run Blocking: 39 (-3) Fumbles: 50 Pass Defense Reaction Time: 95 Interceptions: 36 Pass Coverage: 85 Tackling: 63 CPU Skill QB Accuracy: 9 Pass Blocking: 10 WR Catching: 45 Run Blocking: 30 Fumbles: 50 Pass Defense Reaction Time: 10 Interceptions: 15 Pass Coverage: 40 Tackling: 45 Special Teams FG Power: 49 FG Accuracy: 40 Punt Power: 60 Punt Accuracy: 35 Kickoff Power: 53 (use arc when kicking to avoid too many touchbacks. The AI needs it here so you don't always lead the league in KRs) Game Options Injuries: 40-44 (suggested range for played games. Can go as high as 50 for simmed games) Fatigue: 54 Min Player Speed Threshold: 70 Penalties Note: Don't overly focus on which penalty is being called, but instead the number of penalties and yards being accurate. Offsides: 99 False Start: 99 Holding: 99 Face Mask: 99 Defensive Pass Interface: 99 Offensive Pass Interface: On Kick Catch Interference: On Illegal Block In The Back: 52 Intentional Grounding: On Roughing Passer: 50 Roughing Kicker: On Running Into The Kicker: On Auto-Subs Default work fine, so long as you're utilizing specialists in places. Player Skill Current-Gen Final Spoiler Note: Numbers in parentheses are most recent + or - change to updated number being shown. QB Accuracy: 50 Pass Blocking: 50 WR Catching: 56 Run Blocking: 48 Fumbles: 52 Pass Defense Reaction Time: 95 Interceptions: 36 Pass Coverage: 85 Tackling: 63 CPU Skill QB Accuracy: 5 Pass Blocking: 10 WR Catching: 45 Run Blocking: 25 Fumbles: 40 Pass Defense Reaction Time: 10 Interceptions: 15 Pass Coverage: 38 Tackling: 45 Special Teams FG Power: 49 FG Accuracy: 40 Punt Power: 60 Punt Accuracy: 35 Kickoff Power: 53 (use arc when kicking to avoid too many touchbacks. The AI needs it here so you don't always lead the league in KRs) Game Options Injuries: 40-44 (suggested range for played games. Can go as high as 50 for simmed games) Fatigue: 54 Min Player Speed Threshold: 70 Penalties Note: Don't overly focus on which penalty is being called, but instead the number of penalties and yards being accurate. Offsides: 99 False Start: 99 Holding: 99 Face Mask: 99 Defensive Pass Interface: 99 Offensive Pass Interface: On Kick Catch Interference: On Illegal Block In The Back: 52 Intentional Grounding: On Roughing Passer: 49 Roughing Kicker: On Running Into The Kicker: On Auto-Subs Default work fine, so long as you're utilizing specialists in places. rockit, ImXeno, reecli and 13 others like this. __________________ Franchise. Sliders. $0 spent on microtransactions. @MikeLowe47 \| YouTube \| Discord Last edited by Mike Lowe; 12-28-2020 at 02:20 PM.

09-07-2020, 04:29 PM	#2
Mike Lowe All Star OVR: 18 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,227	Re: Mike Lowe Madden 21 Sliders I'll be streaming this franchise on YouTube. You can also follow me on Twitter @MikeLowe47 Same Old Lions Franchise https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...0efnTc9thNJ5Au Rmiok222 likes this. __________________ Franchise. Sliders. $0 spent on microtransactions. @MikeLowe47 \| YouTube \| Discord Last edited by Mike Lowe; 09-18-2020 at 02:28 PM.

09-09-2020, 03:36 PM	#3
Mike Lowe All Star OVR: 18 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,227	Re: Mike Lowe Madden 21 Sliders 1st post has been updated to v1.0. Rmiok222 likes this. __________________ Franchise. Sliders. $0 spent on microtransactions. @MikeLowe47 \| YouTube \| Discord Last edited by Mike Lowe; 09-12-2020 at 02:44 PM.

09-09-2020, 08:14 PM	#6
Mike Lowe All Star OVR: 18 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,227	Re: Mike Lowe Madden 21 Sliders Especially curious to hear how these are playing in broadcast for those of you on board with that movement. __________________ Franchise. Sliders. $0 spent on microtransactions. @MikeLowe47 \| YouTube \| Discord

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