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Old 10-06-2019, 07:36 PM   #1
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This guy denied every clinch attempt and every takedown attempt

Nevermind

I’m the goat

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Old 10-06-2019, 07:47 PM   #2
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Re: This guy denied every clinch attempt and every takedown attempt

And to be fair, I just got smoked in this match. It was the most one sided loss I’ve ever experienced on this game, so I felt like it was pretty cool. Definitely one of the more interesting and memorable matches I’ve had playing MMA games. This match actually happened 2 months ago.

I felt like it was worth posting, because anyone who’s played or knows anything about me will be able to appreciate what happened in this match.

It wasn’t just a fluke, storm me out the gate KO. He completely shut me down and picked me apart - had me feeling like a complete amateur. By the time I was 2 minutes into the match, I felt like I was playing the worst game of my life. My striking felt sloppy, my clinches felt rushed. I attribute this to how well he played.

Good players have a way of making you feel like you had a bad game. Just like how good fighters make their opponents look like they had an off night (Israel vs Rob, Colby vs Lawler, etc).

But I still felt like, regardless of how one sided this fight was, the fact that he denied EVERY SINGLE grapple entry was worthy of note, and worthy of posting here. No matter how good someone is, I don’t think this should be possible.

But maybe I’m wrong. Maybe he’s just that good, and it should be possible to do this if you’re good enough. Or maybe it’s a sign that anti wrestling is unrealistic on this game. Not sure. I’ll let you guys decide.

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Old 10-06-2019, 08:34 PM   #3
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Re: This guy denied every clinch attempt and every takedown attempt

You didnt go for any hit reaction takedowns or clinches. Also swaying to your rear side and countering is a great way to get it. Clinch attempts should chain faster off td feints. You didnt intercept him at all.
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Old 10-07-2019, 01:35 AM   #4
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Re: This guy denied every clinch attempt and every takedown attempt

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I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that this type of thing looks unrealistic, feels unrealistic, and shouldn’t be possible.

This guy (currently ranked #1) literally stopped every takedown and clinch attempt. Like I didn’t even get one.

I’m not saying “I’m so good, if I couldn’t grab him, no one could”. But I mean... damn. I did about everything one can do to force this into a wrestling match. And every single clinch attempt and takedown attempt was shrugged off with ease.

I can see someone having good anti-wrestling. I can see having quick reflexes on their sprawl, or being good at shutting down my trips in the clinch. But to completely shut down every grappling attempt at the entry level, before it even gets started? Looks a bit ridiculous. This is what’s wrong with a reaction-based, single input anti-wrestling system.

Stephen Thompson looked like Steven Segal stopping my clinches time and time again with a magical little flick of the wrist. Imagine if an actual fight went like this. Stephen Thompson would be all over the news the next morning. Wrestling schools around the country would go out of business.

The takedown feint clinch is something Pryoxis started, and that only works if the guy falls for it, so it's not amazingly difficult to deny the clinch after a TD feint.

The lower stamina you have the harder it is to grapple is one thing. Also, when he's blocking that's more GA for him UNLESS it's a strike that shocks the block, landing strikes makes it a lot easier or slipping/ducking strikes chained with clinches make it sooooo much easier too.

Adding to that, you can also chain your strikes with your clinch attempts, which I saw that you tried to do, but some strikes flow better for clinch attempts.

FYI, Thompson did stop an NCAA All-American/Champs TDs so there's that.

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Old 10-08-2019, 02:59 AM   #5
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Re: This guy denied every clinch attempt and every takedown attempt

I hope grappling will improve drastically in the next game but I don't think being shut down by n.1 in the world should be taken as a proof there's something wrong with the game...
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Old 10-08-2019, 04:06 PM   #6
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It definitely feels like kickboxing is the meta of this game and grappling is an afterthought, especially the clinch.

I feel UFC 4 will rectify that and well have a more balanced meta.
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Old 10-08-2019, 04:57 PM   #7
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I need to get on this guys level. I get killed by people who spam takedowns and clinching
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Old 10-08-2019, 05:09 PM   #8
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that was also a pretty savage ending
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