Spear td feels op

[UFCBlackbelt]

Think it needs a tuner, i say this as a grappler. Any time i get a rock i cant fathom why i wouldnt take them down and get a free side control, a very powerful position in meta. The distance it covers is huge, its just way better than trying to land a body strike or two standing.


As for predenials, all you really gotta do is pump a jab and then throw it in the combo.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Bro they have the wombo combo ...we have the spear takedown ...if he dies ...he dies .

Don't cry for the strikers Argentina .

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[Gion]

I think only fighters with a takedown of 90+ should be able to pull it off. it's a serious looking blast double and feels like it can be abused but we'll see how it all transfers to higher level play

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[VitoBurrito]

Maybe it could be on par with denial window for the ankle pick

[Reinfarcements]

I think for the scenario where your opponent has 50% stamina its completely fine as is. It punishes combo spam and feels good to me. (I am not even a grappler btw, I suck at it)

For the rocked scenario, I could see if people would want it nerfed a little. Maybe like the post above mentions, dial it back to ankle-pick denial window.

Personally though, I'm fine with keeping both as they are now. I just hope they don't nerf it too much, this is the first time in the entire UFC series that I have enjoyed getting takedowns because they look and feel so awesome.

[1212headkick]

Its not op. You have to be rocked to do it. The blame falls on you. Stop crying for nerfa for. EVERYTHING. Adapt. Improve. Your doing something to get rocked. We have an mma game now

[TheGentlemanGhost]

Takedowns REALLY need more realistic openings. No "undeniable" tds, just basic common sense timing and a struggle mechnic behind it. I cannot get excited for any of these fine additions to takedowns when timing is all over the place.

I for one, should not be able to automatically pre-deny tds after missing a kick and my foot barely even comes back down. Pre-denial shouldn't even be a thing. But when I notice a fighter just waiting for me to throw a kick to shoot for a td, it's far too easy to stop it. It's too all or nothing with these pre denials & undeniables, what happened to just having realistic takedown windows?

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[UFCBlackbelt]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1212headkick

Its not op. You have to be rocked to do it. The blame falls on you. Stop crying for nerfa for. EVERYTHING. Adapt. Improve. Your doing something to get rocked. We have an mma game now

I literally just said im a grappler i dont understand why people lack the ability to read.

Its very easy to abuse this, one rocked leg or lucky strike and u got one of the best positions in mma with a jab cross setup. It lasts the entire rocked state so u can combo into it. And in the late rounds one wiffed strike usually means u can easy get under 50% and get insta speared.

Oh well, people said the same when i said duck uppercuts were a problem too