Why do some franchise mode games seem pre-determined?

[Redskinsfan26]

So about every 5-10 games or so, I'll have a game where literally I get line-out after line-out. I'll square up 75% of the balls and they go right to the defender. I strike out maybe once per game, and the rest are outs, so effectively my BABIP (batting average on balls in play) is 1-26, as I usually can squeeze 1 cheap hit in the infield. This absolutely never happens in the real MLB. A team would never go 1-26 (or anywhere along those lines) in a full game, let alone every 5-10 games.

Why does this feel so rigged? I'm using the Red Sox, and go on huge winning streaks when it feels like the computer forces me to hit into outs to challenge me. I'm on HOF difficulty btw. Any other franchise guys encounter this? This isn't just "well that's baseball sometimes". If the Red Sox square up 75% of pitches they wouldn't EVER have a BABIP of 1-26, let alone every few games.

[Ferweezy]

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[underdog13]

Hey so I saw your post also on reddit. And you can take their words for what they're worth, and believe It's all rigged and believe that games are predetermined or you can just hear me out for a few minutes.

Now there there are two things that I think you have failed to considered.

1) You haven't been critical enough of yourself
2) Human beings don't understand true randomness well

1)
• So I'm not here to say you are a bad player or to say 'get good'. But when I see that you are only striking out once, I'm expecting that you are hitting 1-2 hrs per game at Minimum. Not getting one hit. Just because you can hit the ball on the outside corner and even square it up, doesn't mean It's a good pitch to hit or something you can smoak. I would recommend using more power swings early in a count and just sitting either inside or down the middle and not moving from your spot. When down to 2 strikes. Take more edge pitches. Now yes that will mean more caught looking K's. But if that slider is spotted right on the corner, are you really going to hit it for a basehit? Better to take the chance it ends up a ball and you can get a better pitch to hit next AB.

2) Human beings are just bad at understanding randomness and how things like baseball streaks can occur. Here is a good paper on it - https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...3BWRO2PFzU6VfV


Now hopefully you read all that. I hope you can try and see things in a slightly different light. It can be very hard to be critical of yourself. But ask yourself, "was that really a ball I should expect to get a hit on", "if the cpu hit that, would I expect to catch"

Hopefully some of that was useful

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[Redskinsfan26]

Quote: Originally Posted by underdog13

Hey so I saw your post also on reddit. And you can take their words for what they're worth, and believe It's all rigged and believe that games are predetermined or you can just hear me out for a few minutes. Now there there are two things that I think you have failed to considered. 1) You haven't been critical enough of yourself 2) Human beings don't understand true randomness well 1) • So I'm not here to say you are a bad player or to say 'get good'. But when I see that you are only striking out once, I'm expecting that you are hitting 1-2 hrs per game at Minimum. Not getting one hit. Just because you can hit the ball on the outside corner and even square it up, doesn't mean It's a good pitch to hit or something you can smoak. I would recommend using more power swings early in a count and just sitting either inside or down the middle and not moving from your spot. When down to 2 strikes. Take more edge pitches. Now yes that will mean more caught looking K's. But if that slider is spotted right on the corner, are you really going to hit it for a basehit? Better to take the chance it ends up a ball and you can get a better pitch to hit next AB. 2) Human beings are just bad at understanding randomness and how things like baseball streaks can occur. Here is a good paper on it - https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...3BWRO2PFzU6VfV Now hopefully you read all that. I hope you can try and see things in a slightly different light. It can be very hard to be critical of yourself. But ask yourself, "was that really a ball I should expect to get a hit on", "if the cpu hit that, would I expect to catch" Hopefully some of that was useful Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

Thank you for the insightful post. I certainly hear you that I could be remembering incorrectly or ignoring my bad at-bats. I plan on recording my games so that the next time it happens, I will have some footage to look back upon.

The main thing that triggered my post was the fact that there isn't any in-between in my games. I'll either get 9-12 hits, score 5-8 runs (which happens in about 90% of my games), or I'll get 0,1, or 2 hits, while seemingly doing nothing differently. I'll be facing mediocre pitchers (70ish overalls) with some of the best hitters in the game (Betts, Benintendi, Martinez, Boegarts, ect...) and feel like each hard hit ball had a zero percent chance of dropping. And there are seemingly 12-15 hard hit balls per game, which makes me wonder.

Do you recall watching a baseball game where a team rocketed the ball over and over and over and over again, right at the opposing defense, over the course of an entire game? Surely it could happen once or twice in a year, but every 10 ish games? It just doesn't add up (and again, that's IF I'm remembering correctly).

[underdog13]

Quote: Originally Posted by Redskinsfan26

Thank you for the insightful post. I certainly hear you that I could be remembering incorrectly or ignoring my bad at-bats. I plan on recording my games so that the next time it happens, I will have some footage to look back upon. The main thing that triggered my post was the fact that there isn't any in-between in my games. I'll either get 9-12 hits, score 5-8 runs (which happens in about 90% of my games), or I'll get 0,1, or 2 hits, while seemingly doing nothing differently. I'll be facing mediocre pitchers (70ish overalls) with some of the best hitters in the game (Betts, Benintendi, Martinez, Boegarts, ect...) and feel like each hard hit ball had a zero percent chance of dropping. And there are seemingly 12-15 hard hit balls per game, which makes me wonder. Do you recall watching a baseball game where a team rocketed the ball over and over and over and over again, right at the opposing defense, over the course of an entire game? Surely it could happen once or twice in a year, but every 10 ish games? It just doesn't add up (and again, that's IF I'm remembering correctly).

Yeah certainly that many hard hits balls not resulting in hits shouldn't happen that often. I do remember a Lester start this summer where he spread around a lot of hard hit outs.

One thing I will ask is how often are you walking as I find people who walk less will be much more inconsistent with their offense (even if they have a much better bat on ball abilty).

And I also struggle with those quirky 75ovr lefties Sp with 68 stamina and whatnot sometimes more than the aces.

Yeah definitely do some youtube streams or something, I would love to watch a few games.

Also something else to note, is we may I just different definitions of hard hit balls. As simple as it may seem, this happens all the time on the madden forum. Just another thing to consider.

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[Caulfield]

Quote: Originally Posted by Redskinsfan26

So about every 5-10 games or so, I'll have a game where literally I get line-out after line-out. I'll square up 75% of the balls and they go right to the defender. I strike out maybe once per game, and the rest are outs, so effectively my BABIP (batting average on balls in play) is 1-26, as I usually can squeeze 1 cheap hit in the infield. This absolutely never happens in the real MLB. A team would never go 1-26 (or anywhere along those lines) in a full game, let alone every 5-10 games. Why does this feel so rigged? I'm using the Red Sox, and go on huge winning streaks when it feels like the computer forces me to hit into outs to challenge me. I'm on HOF difficulty btw. Any other franchise guys encounter this? This isn't just "well that's baseball sometimes". If the Red Sox square up 75% of pitches they wouldn't EVER have a BABIP of 1-26, let alone every few games.

The games arent rigged or predetermined and the best way to see that is to either drop down a level from HoF (you'll see an immediate difference) or switch to dynamic difficulty (you'll see a gradual difference). The alternative to sticking with HoF is to dial in the right set of sliders that fits your personal skill set. It might take a bit longer to find the right set of sliders but its probably the best option if you dont want to change from HoF. Otherwise, other than ''getting better'', you will most likely continue to see similar results by sticking with HoF and making no necessary modifications.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by underdog13

2) Human beings don't understand true randomness well

This

Quote: Originally Posted by underdog13

But ask yourself, "was that really a ball I should expect to get a hit on", "if the cpu hit that, would I expect to catch"

And so much this.

Quote: Originally Posted by underdog13

Also something else to note, is we may I just different definitions of hard hit balls. As simple as it may seem, this happens all the time on the madden forum. Just another thing to consider.

Yep. I use the irl definition (a ball over 95 MPH velocity). That takes all my "that was hard hit" out of it. If the game says 90 MPH or 83 MPH, it wasn't hard hit. That keeps me purely objective.

I can't improve if I subjective-excuse my flaws and errors and subjective-color my tendencies.

[raneman85]

Quote: Originally Posted by Redskinsfan26

. Do you recall watching a baseball game where a team rocketed the ball over and over and over and over again, right at the opposing defense, over the course of an entire game? Surely it could happen once or twice in a year, but every 10 ish games? It just doesn't add up (and again, that's IF I'm remembering correctly).

OMG Yes I have coached baseball for over 25 years and played earlier. I've experienced seasons like that. Welcome to the world of Baseball my friend.