Utter frustration as a Coach Mode player

[extremeskins04]

I'm an avid coach mode, simulation freak, stats guys and I'm a firm believer and letting the players ratings carry the game, not my own skills at the game.

I have this mind set with ALL sports games, not just Madden. I'm a huge fan of OOTP and Football Manager because of it.

With that being said, this year's Madden is actually worse than last year from a COACH MODE perspective. The game, while it has some shiny things, fails on many levels from my 20 or so hours I've played thus far.

Sure, if you control all the players in offline mode, or you play online or MUT or whatever, you'll like the game and have alot of fun. But the fun for me is playing a true simulation of letting the players do their own thing.

I can't do that this year. There's just too many things wrong with the AI and it's not just the QB.

To give some quick examples:

- QB's will try to move outside of the pocket to avoid "the sense of pressure", but end up doing some sort of spin move right into a different defender for a sack.

- QB's when they actually do break away and start to run with the ball, will throw the ball right before the line of scrimmage, and what's worse...they throw it back across their body in an awkward motion usually causing an interception.

- RB's will NOT hit holes correctly. The animations of the ball carrier are so bad this year, that they will literally stop, change directions and run laterally instead of just going straight. When they run laterally, they get tackled immediately.

- Speaking of animations, the ball carrier will actually hesitate for a second, perform a juke, spin or stiff arm, and then proceed to carry out the animation. It's not fluid and very clunky to watch. They take so much time to carry out the animation that the defense is all over them by the time they do.

This is just 4 examples of gameplay that you will NOT notice if you control your players. This is happening in Coach mode or in CPU v CPU play. I know alot of people here don't care about coach mode or cpu v cpu, but I wanted to share this.

It's very frustrating but I mean I understand that this isn't on EA's list of things to do. I'm just saddened that I cannot enjoy the game for what it is because of how I actually like to play the game.

Sorry, I'm done with the rant.

[TurboTitan]

I understand that everyone enjoys different things in any game, sports or not. If I am understanding you correctly, you mostly play the game in "watch" mode right (where you dont control any players directly) correct? I understand the frustration, but dont you think its a little hard to bash EA when you arent "technically" playing the game the way it was designed?? Nothing personal bro, just really playing devil's advocate here to poiny out they cant possibly make the game so that it completely satisfies ALL play styles. Hope it gets improved for ya as the updates drop.

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[Gotmadskillzson]

Might be a fluke, since I only played 1 coach mode from these camera angles, but coach mode seem to work way better in standard cam and all 22 cam. Haven't tried it in zoom cam yet, but in several games in broadcast cam the AI just seem way dumber in this camera angle. All 22 and standard cam my team and the CPU team had no problem passing, running or having the QB avoid pressure.

[bubba4]

Quote: Originally Posted by extremeskins04

- RB's will NOT hit holes correctly. The animations of the ball carrier are so bad this year, that they will literally stop, change directions and run laterally instead of just going straight. When they run laterally, they get tackled immediately. - Speaking of animations, the ball carrier will actually hesitate for a second, perform a juke, spin or stiff arm, and then proceed to carry out the animation. It's not fluid and very clunky to watch. They take so much time to carry out the animation that the defense is all over them by the time they do.

I understand you completely as I play the game the same way. I hope these issues are fixable, or at the very least, a mod could tame them.

For the running backs, I did a test with all the running backs on my team the Raiders. I set their JUKE attributes to zero. Now they hit the holes better and they run straight for the most part. But there still are some wonky animations caused by real player motion. Those rpm cuts look nice sometimes, but most of the time they look like the runner does an awkward stomp as he changes direction. Maybe the juke and rpm attributes are clashing with each other.

[King Gro23]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gotmadskillzson

Might be a fluke, since I only played 1 coach mode from these camera angles, but coach mode seem to work way better in standard cam and all 22 cam. Haven't tried it in zoom cam yet, but in several games in broadcast cam the AI just seem way dumber in this camera angle. All 22 and standard cam my team and the CPU team had no problem passing, running or having the QB avoid pressure.

How are you playing coach mode in these camera settings?

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[briz1046]

Quote: Originally Posted by TurboTitan

I understand that everyone enjoys different things in any game, sports or not. If I am understanding you correctly, you mostly play the game in "watch" mode right (where you dont control any players directly) correct? I understand the frustration, but dont you think its a little hard to bash EA when you arent "technically" playing the game the way it was designed?? Nothing personal bro, just really playing devil's advocate here to poiny out they cant possibly make the game so that it completely satisfies ALL play styles. Hope it gets improved for ya as the updates drop. Sent from my SM-J727P using Operation Sports mobile app

The CPU AI which results in these issues applies to ANY user not in H2H games , ie offline single player CFM etc

[Juve]

What was said above. Hard to please everyone

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[Gotmadskillzson]

Quote: Originally Posted by King Gro23

How are you playing coach mode in these camera settings? Sent from my VS987 using Operation Sports mobile app

Easy, just set it to coach mode on and RB special moves to auto. You can play coach mode from any camera angle.