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Old 06-09-2018, 05:57 PM   #1
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So Rich Hill works 6.1 innings and leaves the game with the Dodgers ahead 1-0. His line reads 4 H 0 R 0 ER 0 BB 4 SO 0.00 ERA.

Reliever Garcia enters and gives up a hit. I pull him and put Fields in there who gets out of that inning but gives up a HR the next inning to tie the game in the bottom of the 8th.

In the top of the 9th we go ahead 2-1. And Fields gets the first out in the bottom 9th, but Jansen closes the game out with the final two outs for the save.

How does Josh Fields end up getting the win?

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Old 06-09-2018, 06:00 PM   #2
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So Rich Hill works 6.1 innings and leaves the game with the Dodgers ahead 1-0. His line reads 4 H 0 R 0 ER 0 BB 4 SO 0.00 ERA.



Reliever Garcia enters and gives up a hit. I pull him and put Fields in there who gets out of that inning but gives up a HR the next inning to tie the game in the bottom of the 8th.



In the top of the 9th we go ahead 2-1. And Fields gets the first out in the 9th, but Jansen closes the game out with the final two outs for the save.



How does Josh Fields end up getting the win?


Because Fields was the pitcher of record when you took the lead.




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Old 06-09-2018, 06:01 PM   #3
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How would he not get the win? Once it was tied up, Hill was no longer part of the decision. And since you went ahead with Fields was on the mound, he would be in line for the win and Jansen the save
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Old 06-09-2018, 06:05 PM   #4
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Ok, sucks for my boy Hill after such a stellar performance.
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Old 06-09-2018, 06:07 PM   #5
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Ok, sucks for my boy Hill after such a stellar performance.
There is a lot of no decision stellar performances in baseball unfortunately.
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Ok, sucks for my boy Hill after such a stellar performance.


That’s baseball. It’s why we look way WAY past a pitchers win-loss record when evaluating their performance.


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There is a lot of no decision stellar performances in baseball unfortunately.
Ask poor Felix Hernandez about all of those years with the crappy 'ol Mariners.

What a waste of his best years...
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Old 06-09-2018, 09:51 PM   #8
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Re: When's a win, a win...

the way wins are tracked is one stat that sorely needs reworking. or maybe wins should be scrapped entirely. maybe in some games a win shouldn't be given to an individual, maybe there should be team wins.
there should be far more criteria for a win. in a scenario like hill's, a quality start should factor in.

a pitcher could throw a perfect game through 4 innings & leave due to injury with a 9 run lead.
a long relief guy could come in for the 5th & 6th innings & give up 5 runs. then a middle relief
guy comes in in the 7th & give up a run, a setup man comes in the 8th gives up a run, the closer comes in the 9th gives up a run.
final score 9-8, closer gets a save with a possible ERA of 9. the long reliever gets the win with an ERA of over 20. the other 2 relievers might have each had an ERA of 9 also. meanwhile the starter gets an insult added to injury with no credit for being the best pitcher in the game.

wins just dont really mean diddly.
then again we don't live in a perfect world & never will. we could just leave well enough alone.
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