Unable To Stand-Up From Side Control -- Bug or Intentional?

[Boiler569]

I saw this post from ZR on a different thread, and wanted to focus on it here.

Quote: Originally Posted by ZombieRommel

Sub artists are also OP, especially in lag. A Ronda on bottom is just broken. What makes it all the funnier is that sometimes you'll escape a sub or hit a reversal and wind up in side control, and the submissive fighter (Ronda) is able to transition BEFORE you can stand up off her.

I've had this happen as well. Eddie Alvarez reverses Ferg or escapes a Sub and ends up in side control --- I hold down the command to "Get Up" as I don't want to play w/ Ferg on the ground, but he's able to immediately transition from Side Control Sub to Full Guard.

His initiative to transition from Side Control Sub to Full Guard > My Transition to stand-up after a reversal or sub escape.

Is this intentional? Or due to lag?

Definitely seems to happen more against people w/ high Bottom stats.

ZR made it sound like it's due to lag. It's annoyed me before so trying to figure out if it's intended to be like this, or it really is lag lol

[Sivo]

have had this happen in side control and back side mount(or whatever its called where u can use the bulldog choke) where the person on top has to wait for the bottom person to move first. My guess is its a stat/stamina thing

[xtremeba1000]

you can definitely do it. They give a slight pause when you first get in position to give the guy on bottom a second to transition. so you have to block their transition and then get up

[Morgan Monkman]

Quote: Originally Posted by xtremeba1000

you can definitely do it. They give a slight pause when you first get in position to give the guy on bottom a second to transition. so you have to block their transition and then get up

You shouldn't have to block anything. Just stand up.

Ive been complaining about this since ufc 2. Never gets any traction

[xtremeba1000]

Quote: Originally Posted by Morgan Monkman

You shouldn't have to block anything. Just stand up. Ive been complaining about this since ufc 2. Never gets any traction

Yeah it sucks if they are using a good grappler.

[UFCBlackbelt]

yeah the stand up is slower most of the time, so blocking is almost always required. It's annoying against Maia.

[Boiler569]

When you pass from Half Guard to Side Control, I could see you not getting a 'free stand-up' against someone w/ good bottom game. Totally legit.

But it's definitely a pain to have this happen off an escaped sub/reversal.

Instead of putting him on his *** and into side control, I would have just disengaged, if I had the option.

Not saying every reversal should allow you to 'stop' mid-stream and just disengage....but that'd make sense in a lot of situations.

[Ksearyback]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boiler569

When you pass from Half Guard to Side Control, I could see you not getting a 'free stand-up' against someone w/ good bottom game. Totally legit. But it's definitely a pain to have this happen off an escaped sub/reversal. .

Why? Standing up and making space from side control shouldn't be an issue. And it certainly shouldn't matter how you got there.

The only exception to this would be if they created some way for the bottom player to hug from bottom of side control. But right now this isn't the case