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Old 04-01-2017, 12:27 PM   #1
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The Packers 2-4-5, 3 safety personnel package.

In week 5, the Packers held the Giants to under 50 yards rushing, and they never had fewer than 5 defensive backs on the field. That's right, the packers never had their 34 personnel on the field, regardless of the Giants offensive personnel. Think about that, let it sink in.


Recreated the same look, by spreading my linebackers, shifting my D-line to the left, and walking my strong safety down into the box.


http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/20...y-james-starks


The Packers shutdown the Falcons dangerous running attack, and here are the stats to prove it.

The following article reveals something worth noting. This is nothing new, and in fact, it was the base defense of the 96 Packers.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...efensive-trend

The Lions remained in their big nickel package, even against heavy personnel.
Please, just read the articles, because the game is changing.

Miles Killebrew, the Lions rookie hybrid safety.

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2016/1...ations-jaguars


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Could this be because of the offensive formation and personnel set though and the fact that the Giants do not have a good rushing attack? GB didn't try that against Dallas for instance. I don't think this is an either or thing. The biggest issue with Madden is that this can and does work against every team and I don't think it should.
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They shut down the Falcons OZ scheme, and they did it with their nickel package.

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They shut down the Falcons OZ scheme, and they did it with their nickel package.

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again, not denying that. The issue is there's a reason they did not run this against everyone. In madden you can run it against everyone with the same results. That's a problem.
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Problem #1;

You are discussing the Packers defense.

They have no defense.. So this is all hypothetical.


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Problem #1;

You are discussing the Packers defense.

They have no defense.. So this is all hypothetical.


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Problem number one, I'm presenting hard data, so it's not hypothetical.

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Problem number one, I'm presenting hard data, so it's not hypothetical.

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You are presenting hard data, but one game is hardly sufficient evidence. The NFL season is 16 games long for a reason. Also, you have to look at the circumstances that this event occurred under. The Giants finished 29th in rushing last season. They had no balance, making staying in a nickel/dime defense much more viable.

This is not to say that a base-nickel defense is impossible, only that the data sample provided is too small to conclude that it can be relied upon on a week-to-week basis.
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You are presenting hard data, but one game is hardly sufficient evidence. The NFL season is 16 games long for a reason. Also, you have to look at the circumstances that this event occurred under. The Giants finished 29th in rushing last season. They had no balance, making staying in a nickel/dime defense much more viable.

This is not to say that a base-nickel defense is impossible, only that the data sample provided is too small to conclude that it can be relied upon on a week-to-week basis.
So far, I've presented two games, and I'm currently working on compiling more data. If you read the last article I posted, you'll see the Packers are far from the only team to use this scheme. Coaches do not care about being "sim," their only concern is getting their best eleven players on the field -- even if it's by unconventional means -- and doesn't fit into someones preconceived notion of "sim."

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