Is NBA2K becoming EA NBA LIVE or worst?

[2kbuddha]

Before i begin i just want to say kudos to Mike, scott and the gameplay devs.
I could see that the gameplay has improved so much from my short time playing the prelude. You guys are truly passionate.

But everything else fall short and uninspiring. Do the other department (Art team, marketing team) think we are stupid or have they lost their passion for the game.

1.This year marketing was a disaster, very disrespectful. ronnie
2. Only 2 body types this year, bulky and the anorexic body one..still dont understand how it ended up in the game when they clearly knew those were made for the highschool players model from 2k16.
3.Same cap system as last year, no new faces still look like aborigen (sorry lol) and still no complete body customization in 2016!
Poor textures overall, jerseys and players skins look worst this year compare to 2k16.
Face scan still buggy and hasnt improved much.
etc...

Are we witnessing the beginning of "the fall of a giant" similar to EA and the nba live serie?
I am 34 been playing 2k since the first one and was a live fan since 1995, but this year for the first time after having preorder nba2k17 from the psn store i felt like 2k did not deserve my money because of the way marketing treated their customers, hid gameplay and waited at the last minute to share important info so i decided to cancel and wait for nba2k18 and see if anything changes.

Why do we have to wait for ghetto footage every year? why can 2k be professional and kind toward their customers and share gameplay?Most companies share gameplay months before release, alpha and beta so they can get feedbacks and tweak, but 2k are arrogant they dont share or have a relationship with their customers thats why they always end up with a buggy product that cant be fixe.

I believe im old enough to know the difference between a douche bag and an humble and kind soul. 2K right now seems to have become the douchy one. The only souls left at 2k are Mike wang, scott og and the gameplay dev team. What do you guys think? Do you want change?
This discussion is for those who are mature and want to discuss how they feel about the way 2k have become lately..

[Leasim96]

Well it's important to remember that opinions - especially respectful ones without childish behavior - are not law regardless of age. I am mature - but I disagree with how far you are taking this. If anything I think it's rather close minded to assume such a thing based on only a few negatives which every game and almost every company has. I love 2k17 so far. They improved a lot of things and I'm happy with my purchase right now. That alone cannot be said for live. I do think the positives outweight the negatives so far. And with that said I believe you are exaggerating. But opinions are opinions. And I respect yours. And do think there's a possibility. Just happy with my purchase so far so I don't share it.

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[extremeskins04]

Sure there needs to be fixes and things patched, but they have put out a great product this year. There's a way to go about it though and give your opinions and critiques, without calling the 2K staff "douchy" or "arrogant". Just saying dude.

[2kbuddha]

Quote: Originally Posted by Leasim96

Well it's important to remember that opinions - especially respectful ones without childish behavior - are not law regardless of age. I am mature - but I disagree with how far you are taking this. If anything I think it's rather close minded to assume such a thing based on only a few negatives which every game and almost every company has. I love 2k17 so far. They improved a lot of things and I'm happy with my purchase right now. That alone cannot be said for live. I do think the positives outweight the negatives so far. And with that said I believe you are exaggerating. But opinions are opinions. And I respect yours. And do think there's a possibility. Just happy with my purchase so far so I don't share it. Sent from my SKY 5.0W using Tapatalk

Good!we have different standard. But I dont know any other video game company that act like 2k. even the mighty naughtydog always treat their customers with respect, they share gameplay videos way before release, behind the scene videos etc..just an example

[seanbarkley]

I don't share many of the opinions of the OP, but man, checking for the 4th game in a row if they have fixed socks disappearing with some accessories, double rubberband still missing, shoe materials still resetting and so on, having warned it each year, and being still there, gives me a terrible feeling of slackness of the department in charge of it.

[KoolAidNoSugar]

The marketing matters to an extent but at the end of the day it's about the game. No one cares about how it's getting marketed after September 16th..
You can play the game or view it from twitch. Even with the prelude even thought I thought the draft combine(2k10) better if I compare the two


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[scooterperpetual]

You are entitled to your opinion but I respectfully have to disagree. This is the best 2k in a while for me. Granted I dont play much online so I cant speak to that but the gameplay feels great. MyLeague had a lot of great improvements to add more depth. MyCareer is amazing as well.

[Leasim96]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2kbuddha

Good!we have different standard. But I dont know any other video game company that act like 2k. even the mighty naughtydog always treat their customers with respect, they share gameplay videos way before release, behind the scene videos etc..just an example

Yea I get you in terms of marketing - I thought they were a bit late but I mostly care about how fun the actual game is - the stuff before is cool but that's what really matters. In some aspects we could call them lazy to some extent - but even then we're assuming - we can't really know the precise reason as to why they don't do some things. Maybe budget etc. Not really a standard - I obviously want a good product - I just personally accept that companies have their limitations in game development in a yearly cycle. And that it's not easy to make certain improvements. I just choose to be more open minded - since they're humans too and technology can be unpredictable when it comes to problems at launch etc. I personally wouldn't call it different standards but I get what you mean. I guess in terms of standards I have a more "from a humane professional view" - not a "this certain thing sucks - 2k is terrible". I guess I choose to put myself in their place and picture why things might happen the way they do. But regardless at the end of the day it's all about the game - and so far even this early I'm having more fun than I did in certain previous 2ks for an entire year.

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