Watch This: 13 (FAILED) Submission Attempts in ONE ROUND -- NO STAMINA DRAIN??

[Boiler569]

Go to about 8 minutes 45 seconds of this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IMiXcmdqxY

Watch as this guy spams submission attempt after submission attempt --- 13 in one round --- I escape them all; and he loses almost no permanent stamina?

Anyone else think this needs to be looked at? lol

(Fight was laggy as hell that's why I could barely deny any of these sub attempts....plus the guy was OVR 99 compared to my OVR 82....denying triangle from guard is tough enough; throw in some heavy lag, and a huge stat disadvantage, and you get this garbage lol)

But hey I got my final revenge

Liver Kick to FINISH him --- of course my Left Leg Power is like 35 LMAO

But I had hurt the body big time previously (since all he did was hold high block)

anyway, I won't name and shame or anything. But if you want to see a few bogus things, especially the 13 subs in one round stuff, there ya go! lol

[Morgan Monkman]

Not surprised.

I really don't know what else to say anymore.

[Fearhead24]

You're a brilliant boxer but man you need to work on your sub denials,, lag or not. When the first submission is to the left the second is always to the right and vice versa. It's not that hard to deny because it's easy to predict. But then again, it might have been the 99 ovr that made it even harder. No offense. I'd really like to play you btw. Sent you a message once but never got a response.

[Boiler569]

Quote: Originally Posted by Fearhead24

You're a brilliant boxer but man you need to work on your sub denials,, lag or not. When the first submission is to the left the second is always to the right and vice versa. It's not that hard to deny because it's easy to predict. But then again, it might have been the 99 ovr that made it even harder. No offense. I'd really like to play you btw. Sent you a message once but never got a response.

thanks man --- to be honest I probably fought a bit 'cheese' in that fight, throwing a bunch of body punches, b/c of the lag which really screws with my flow, and how lame he was fighting, too (I mean if a guy NEVER drops his hands....you gotta throw to body lol even if it looks a bit gimmicky)

in terms of the sub denials --- I really think it was the lag and stats --- it's hard to tell in that video how laggy it was, but it was badddd lol it was laggy enough that even if i knew exactly where he was going to transition for a sub attempt; most my denials didn't work lol not even 'pre-denials' that SEEMED timed up well but just fell flat

You'll notice that I did block a few subs; then I tried to transition out or posture up, or stand up, and most the times he just applied a second sub to me before I could get out lol

At least I got a lot of sub defense practice in

I think I'll be on for a couple hours before UFC 201 prelims tomorrow, doing my Live Event Pickem fights, so we can spar then if you happen to be on!

[Boiler569]

complaints about lag/etc aside --- I definitely AGREE that there SHOULD be an opportunity for BJJ specialists to apply multiple sub attempts.

BUT there needs to be some sort of Risk to this reward...

While I know defending a sub DOES take energy...it just feels to me that if a guy is trying 13 attempts in one round, HE would be more burned out than the person defending.

idk maybe not lol but at least we BOTH should have been losing some stamina ---

[Morgan Monkman]

The problem is the game allowing this, not "get good ****"

[King_Clarke1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boiler569

Go to about 8 minutes 45 seconds of this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IMiXcmdqxY Watch as this guy spams submission attempt after submission attempt --- 13 in one round --- I escape them all; and he loses almost no permanent stamina? Anyone else think this needs to be looked at? lol (Fight was laggy as hell that's why I could barely deny any of these sub attempts....plus the guy was OVR 99 compared to my OVR 82....denying triangle from guard is tough enough; throw in some heavy lag, and a huge stat disadvantage, and you get this garbage lol) But hey I got my final revenge Liver Kick to FINISH him --- of course my Left Leg Power is like 35 LMAO But I had hurt the body big time previously (since all he did was hold high block) anyway, I won't name and shame or anything. But if you want to see a few bogus things, especially the 13 subs in one round stuff, there ya go! lol

Its so crazy that that can happen and YES that is a major issue with this game.

But its not just subs...

I beat the number 1 guy in HW in UT on Ps4 and man.... all he did was repeatedly throw the sliding side kick and sweet chin music for the entire fight.

I do not understand how this is possible to miss. I feel like we have witnessed similar behavior in previous games.

I do not want 250 character if it means that fewer resources are used to balance this game and fight "cheesy" tactics.

- As usual I must state for all the haters... this is the best MMA game ever made even with the few issues that still need to be addressed!

[GameplayDevUFC]

You had a pretty big stamina advantage on him the whole time.

Without seeing his meter, it's impossible to say what impact that had on the denial window, but it should have been pretty big.

That, along with the predictability of his attempts should have put him in a very dangerous position.

One denial, and you could have easily turned the tables, got an instant SUB with him at zero stamina in the mini game.

Unless...and this is the part I have no way of knowing...there was a huge stat imbalance making the stamina advantage at 50% not as significant as I would imagine it to be.

I think there's some merit to draining some stamina on the guy who attempted the submission when his opponent escapes though.

Can't do it on entry or it will mess with balance way too much.