Is anyone else just awful at denials?

[ConsoleBaddie]

I can't figure it out, lads.

I would say I am a decent player at this game. I win 85% of my fights online and never have any issues in standup even against extremely competitive standup players.

I can deny takedown attempts and clinch attempts all day long, flawlessly.

I can NOT, however, seem to get denials on the ground. The only time I manage to get a denial on the ground is when I am on top, in halfguard, they start a transition to fullguard as I transition over to top mount. As I land in top mount, they're still completing the transition to FG and I can deny it from top mount. This works.

I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. I have extremely fast reactions and will hold R2+ the direction as soon as I see the animation start but it never works unless it is the unique situation mentioned above.

Could it be that I am doing it too quickly? Too slowly (would be surprised..) or what?

Games been out a few months now and I can't believe I still havent got the hang of this. I could deny forever and ever on the ground in UFC1. I'm sure it's not a skill issue, I must just be doing something wrong...

This is on PS4, too.

[SisterRay]

Yeah, sometimes in online matches I can't deny anything but I know it might be due to latency. How are you with denials in offline play? It just takes practice to read the animations and immediately inputting the directions. Sometimes if your opponent is predictable you can even input the denials before them and get a reversal.

[Boiler569]

latency def. makes a difference

I can deny 95%+ of the computer's transitions (clinch, ground, etc) with ease --- no lag

Online though...even against not-so-great competition...maybe can only deny 50%...in games with almost no lag that def. goes up to 75%+; on the other hand when there's lag, it can go down to 25% or lower :/

So a big part of it is lag, I think

But overall if you want practice --- go to Practice Mode against Maia or some good BJJ type fighter and put it on 'advanced grappling' then just keep practicing denials, GnP, etc over and over and over and eventually you'll get a lot better at denials

Also be sure to not pre-deny! If you try to deny before they attempt...you shot yourself in the foot

Hope this helps man

[Notorious8]

The latency just ruins the denials.


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[Dave_S]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boiler569

latency def. makes a difference I can deny 95%+ of the computer's transitions (clinch, ground, etc) with ease --- no lag Online though...even against not-so-great competition...maybe can only deny 50%...in games with almost no lag that def. goes up to 75%+; on the other hand when there's lag, it can go down to 25% or lower :/ So a big part of it is lag, I think But overall if you want practice --- go to Practice Mode against Maia or some good BJJ type fighter and put it on 'advanced grappling' then just keep practicing denials, GnP, etc over and over and over and eventually you'll get a lot better at denials Also be sure to not pre-deny! If you try to deny before they attempt...you shot yourself in the foot Hope this helps man

Same for me, I deny almost every computer transition, but online only about 50%.

[ryangil23]

sometimes it's latency, others I think it is just that the opponent's fighter has higher ground and clinch stats. I've noticed if I fight someone who uses someone like Dos Anjos and I'm someone like Benson Henderson that sometimes denials just flat out don't work when they worked against other fighters. This is even when they don't use fakes and I know exactly what he is going to do and sometimes just can't stop it.

[fishingtime]

Quote: Originally Posted by Notorious8

The latency just ruins the denials. Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk

This. I swept a guy last night by preemptively denying. Couldn't stop a takedown for ****. Couldn't deny for ****. Started denying early, and what do you know? I'm denying. Latency kills this game worse than anything else.

[Supreme_Bananas]

I'm decent with denying on the ground, but clinch? The unhelpful camera angles and the way denials swicth around depending on stance make the tells very hard for me to learn