The problem with patching "problems" based on user feedback

[tessl]

I use manage mode. People complained the batters were bunting too much so the "fixed" it in the patch. Now user controlled batters never bunt for a hit.

Too many bunts are not realistic but the batter never bunting is as unrealistic because IRL players bunt for a hit on their own.

It isn't a game breaker but an example of how "fixing" something has to be done carefully.

[Bobhead]

Uhh...
I think you meant CPU controlled batters. Why would user controlled batters bunt for a hit... without input from the controlling user? If you want to bunt, press the bunt button.

If you meant CPU controlled batters, I still see a very consistent number of attempts from the CPU.
I'm not too familiar with Manager mode but my understanding is that it runs almost identical to CPU vs CPU exhibition play. Thus one would expect the same number of bunts as in a CPU vs CPU game.

So if you aren't seeing the same number of bunts, it's most likely because of a difference in your strategy (more bunt shifts), or a difference in your sliders (slower baserunners or faster fielders).

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bobhead

Uhh... I think you meant CPU controlled batters. Why would user controlled batters bunt for a hit... without input from the controlling user? If you want to bunt, press the bunt button. If you meant CPU controlled batters, I still see a very consistent number of attempts from the CPU. I'm not too familiar with Manager mode but my understanding is that it runs almost identical to CPU vs CPU exhibition play. Thus one would expect the same number of bunts as in a CPU vs CPU game. So if you aren't seeing the same number of bunts, it's most likely because of a difference in your strategy (more bunt shifts), or a difference in your sliders (slower baserunners or faster fielders).

Quote: Originally Posted by tessl

I use manage mode.

He's saying players should have the green light to bunt on their own without his input which would be different than him calling for a sacrifice bunt.

I don't use manage only mode but based on the timing of this post I'm assuming they did so previously.

[Jgainsey]

The problems with bunting in this year's game were quite real. No quotation marks needed.

The thread title here implies that the developers haphazardly rushed into fixing a problem in an effort to alleviate complaints from an impatient majority.

What's your point? That SCEA shouldn't accidentally create a bug while fixing a legitimate issue with the game? Ok... I really hope the developers learned their lesson.

BAD SCEA!!

BE MORE CAREFUL NEXT TIME WHEN FIXING "PROBLEMS!!!"

[tessl]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bobhead

Uhh... I think you meant CPU controlled batters. Why would user controlled batters bunt for a hit... without input from the controlling user? If you want to bunt, press the bunt button. If you meant CPU controlled batters, I still see a very consistent number of attempts from the CPU. I'm not too familiar with Manager mode but my understanding is that it runs almost identical to CPU vs CPU exhibition play. Thus one would expect the same number of bunts as in a CPU vs CPU game. So if you aren't seeing the same number of bunts, it's most likely because of a difference in your strategy (more bunt shifts), or a difference in your sliders (slower baserunners or faster fielders).

To replicate reality.

[Knight165]

I would say VERY FEW batters are bunting on their own nowadays.
If you are managing the game....and you want your guy to bunt...tell him to bunt.
It beats seeing guys bunt when
-A. They shouldn't be bunting
-B. They shouldn't be bunting.
or worst of all..
-C. They shouldn't be bunting.

M.K.
Knight165

[tessl]

Quote: Originally Posted by Knight165

I would say VERY FEW batters are bunting on their own nowadays. If you are managing the game....and you want your guy to bunt...tell him to bunt. It beats seeing guys bunt when -A. They shouldn't be bunting -B. They shouldn't be bunting. or worst of all.. -C. They shouldn't be bunting. M.K. Knight165

LOL - batters bunting for a hit do it on their own. Sacrifice bunts are called from the dugout. It has been that way for 100 years.

[forme95]

I use MoM mode also. I hate that you have to guess which pitch to tell the player to bunt on. I would like it better if you told the player to Sac bunt, or bunt for hit that he goes to the plate and picks the pitch to try it on.