to you u nl guys

[Ghostciv]

just seeing where everyone puts there pitcher at in lineup. i play a cubs/stros chise and i play my pitcher in the number 8 slot and love it

doing so gives the top of my lineup better rbi chances as byrat/rizzo r 1/2 in nl in rbi's

[HozAndMoose]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ghostciv

just seeing where everyone puts there pitcher at in lineup. i play a cubs/stros chise and i play my pitcher in the number 8 slot and love it doing so gives the top of my lineup better rbi chances as byrat/rizzo r 1/2 in nl in rbi's

Not an NL guy but ive been doing the same for years when i play at an NL park. Like having speed in the #9 slot and most pitcher have none.

[sljivo]

A few days ago, actually, I was reading online about how best to optimize one's lineup. Apparently, as the author of the article I read contends, most of the old baseball strategy is overrated and sometimes just plain wrong. For example, historically, the first 4 guys were the team breakers and makers. And yes, you're best hitters should be coming to bat more, but a lot of the times these guys bat with no runners on base much less scoring position.

Also, the author discussed the ludicrousness of having a pitcher bat 9th. Why? So he can NOT get on base for your lead-off man? After reading, I was convinced that the pitcher should bat somewhere like the 7 or 8th spot.
The 9th hitter doesn't get to the plate as often as the lead-off guys but he is directly interacting with the top of the order. He should at least be capable of drawing a friggin walk so that the high-contact hitters can drive him in. If the pitcher bats 9th and happens to get on base, he ain't coming home, trust me. By the time the slow poke comes around the bases, 2 base hits might be needed, maybe 3. (In the game at least, where their speed ratings are atrocious. They're still athletes right?)

So yeah, I'll try to find that article and post it because it was very refreshing, for me at least.

Ok, in typing this message I realized I could easily find the article from the world wide web! So here it is...

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/200...your-lineup-by

Geez, my reading comprehension is waay off.

[Ghostciv]

Quote: Originally Posted by sljivo

A few days ago, actually, I was reading online about how best to optimize one's lineup. Apparently, as the author of the article I read contends, most of the old baseball strategy is overrated and sometimes just plain wrong. For example, historically, the first 4 guys were the team breakers and makers. And yes, you're best hitters should be coming to bat more, but a lot of the times these guys bat with no runners on base much less scoring position. Also, the author discussed the ludicrousness of having a pitcher bat 9th. Why? So he can NOT get on base for your lead-off man? After reading, I was convinced that the pitcher should bat somewhere like the 7 or 8th spot. The 9th hitter doesn't get to the plate as often as the lead-off guys but he is directly interacting with the top of the order. He should at least be capable of drawing a friggin walk so that the high-contact hitters can drive him in. If the pitcher bats 9th and happens to get on base, he ain't coming home, trust me. By the time the slow poke comes around the bases, 2 base hits might be needed, maybe 3. (In the game at least, where their speed ratings are atrocious. They're still athletes right?) So yeah, I'll try to find that article and post it because it was very refreshing, for me at least. Ok, in typing this message I realized I could easily find the article from the world wide web! So here it is... http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/200...your-lineup-by Geez, my reading comprehension is waay off.

i basically use this when i come up with my lineups i rather have 3 guys with good to decent contact before the heart of my lineup comes up. plus a 4th in later innings when i sub out my pitcher plus gives me more flex when needing a double switch late in game. atm with my cubs i bat fowler leading off la stella 2nd playing 2nd base ( lost castro for season early and he been killing it atm 25 game hitting streak) then bryant/rizzo have beaz hitting 9th sometimes 7th and plantom my lf there some games

[ShowTyme15]

Quote: Originally Posted by HozAndMoose

Not an NL guy but ive been doing the same for years when i play at an NL park. Like having speed in the #9 slot and most pitcher have none.

I am the same way. I usually put speedsters or high on base guys at the 1 and 9 spots. Pitcher always hits 8th for me.

[cusefan74]

Never understood hitting the pitcher 8th myself. Every time I see it on TV it backfires the whole game. Have never seen it prove to be worth while to do it that way.

[thedudedominick]

Quote: Originally Posted by cusefan74

Never understood hitting the pitcher 8th myself. Every time I see it on TV it backfires the whole game. Have never seen it prove to be worth while to do it that way.

As a Cubs fan, watching Russell hit in the 9 spot behind the pitcher has been good for the team. He's almost like an extra lead off hitter and allows Maddon to put Rizzo or Bryant at #2 in the order with a real shot at having two guys on base before them.

[cusefan74]

Quote: Originally Posted by thedudedominick

As a Cubs fan, watching Russell hit in the 9 spot behind the pitcher has been good for the team. He's almost like an extra lead off hitter and allows Maddon to put Rizzo or Bryant at #2 in the order with a real shot at having two guys on base before them.

Or he could put them at 3 and 4 and get the same thing with Russell hitting 2nd. Also Russell would get more AB's in the 2 hole, and he should be getting as many as possible because he gets on base a lot. IMO it's a push, can't see were it helps.